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Title: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Halfcrazy on October 20, 2015, 09:12:44 AM
So Andrew has opened up My MidNite ver3 with WBjr support and advanced logging etc.

To use this site you need to use the same firmware used for MM ver2, here is a link on that: http://www.midniteforum.com/index.php?topic=2364.0 (http://www.midniteforum.com/index.php?topic=2364.0)

So the new website is at https://159.203.65.201

You will also need to change the DNS over ride on the classic from the old MM2 IP to 159.203.65.201 and save it and then reboot the classic.

Please post any odd behavior etc here
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on October 20, 2015, 10:42:33 AM
Is the 50.57.186.168 ( ver2 ?)  site going to continue to work until I can get back out and change to the new Ver3 site ?

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Halfcrazy on October 20, 2015, 10:56:28 AM
Yes Andrew will leave that one on line for some period of time
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Resthome on October 21, 2015, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on October 20, 2015, 09:12:44 AM
So Andrew has opened up My MidNite ver3 with WBjr support and advanced logging etc.

To use this site you need to use the same firmware used for MM ver2, here is a link on that: http://www.midniteforum.com/index.php?topic=2364.0 (http://www.midniteforum.com/index.php?topic=2364.0)

So the new website is at https://159.203.65.201

You will also need to change the DNS over ride on the classic from the old MM2 IP to 159.203.65.201 and save it and then reboot the classic.

Please post any odd behavior etc here

So have the bugs on Classic Graphs been fixed on this firmware??
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on October 23, 2015, 09:01:54 PM
Download this file http://ryan.midnitesolar.com/install_1900.zip and unpack it some where that you can find it.

So I have Version FW 2056 and NW 2045  loaded.

Does this mean I have to go back to 19xx? 

FW V.2056 is a real gem, far better than the 19xx version I had...?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Resthome on October 23, 2015, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: Westbranch on October 23, 2015, 09:01:54 PM
Download this file http://ryan.midnitesolar.com/install_1900.zip and unpack it some where that you can find it.

So I have Version FW 2056 and NW 2045 loaded.

Does this mean I have to go back to 19xx?
  FW V.2056 is a real gem, far better than the 19xx version I had...???

Sounds like it. I'll just wait. Closing up this week for the winter. So hopefully tHey will have resolved before next spring.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on October 23, 2015, 09:47:14 PM
Hi John,  I may just do the same unless Andrew or Ryan confirms that 2056 will work...  I am thinking it would as it is the progeny of the 19xx series that came out fast and furious, IIRC...


I think I will just change the IPA , not the ale :o  , in the Classic and try it...  that is easy to revert, much more so than a FW change...

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on October 23, 2015, 11:34:29 PM
I doubt it will work - when I upgraded to that new firmware  the Mymidnite V2 didn't work and I had to go back to the firmware Ryan linked above.  I just got back so will try out this new Mymidnte v3 - guess all I need to do is change the server ip address.

This is what I am at now that works with mymidnite v2

Firmware:     
- Classic Rev: 1923
- Network Rev: 1824

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on October 23, 2015, 11:47:22 PM
Looks like I am in on Mymidnite V3 - at least it let me log in and shows my serial number and stuff - but I have to wait awhile to let it gather some data.
All I did was change the IP using Local Status App.

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on October 24, 2015, 12:16:10 AM
I did get to the new MMV3  ( I guess) as I had to sign in as it did not recognise me..... so I signed in then Nada but there were 4 icons in the middle of the page, clicked first one , Nada, pressed second one and waited  for ~ 15 minutes for the data to transfer, once finished I closed connection and rebooted it, had to sign in again but no data shows???

logged of and resigned in now it lists my Cl 4592, if I click the 'key' or 'back arrow' it starts to reload the data again...??

guess I will see what it shows in the morning...

ADD:  I also am randomly getting a pop up message about AJAX errors...????
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on October 24, 2015, 12:36:18 AM
I had forgotten to reset the power on my Classic - once I did that now it is talking to the mymidnite v3 and I can see some data now.

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on October 24, 2015, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on October 20, 2015, 09:12:44 AM
So Andrew has opened up My MidNite ver3 with WBjr support and advanced logging etc.
Please post any odd behavior etc here

Seems to be working fine for me Ryan . Only thing I notice so far is Energy label says Wh instead of kWh .

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: zoneblue on November 01, 2015, 07:41:09 PM
Is that "1900" firmware now certifed beta? Or still alpha?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Halfcrazy on November 03, 2015, 05:22:16 AM
OK we have the new software for MM v3 and it has a couple fixes for EQ in it. (We know there is still an issue and Mario is getting close but I wanted to get this out there now)

http://bob.midniteftp.com/MidNiteSolarUpdate_2074_11-2-2015_v4.95.exe
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 04, 2015, 06:28:16 PM
Andrew, are these the right settings?  Your descriptions of what to change do not line up with what i in the L App..


Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 04, 2015, 07:33:09 PM
OK, over one hr has passed and the MMV3 knows the number of the FW version I am using (which I changed an hr+ ago),   so does this mean the 2 parts are communicating?

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on November 04, 2015, 07:49:56 PM
Westbranch
I don't really understand network stuff too well but for getting to mymidnight v3 I put the 159.203.65.201  address in both the Primary DNS and DNS override on the Local Status App and it works.

You need to repower the Classic after changing them - at least I did to get mine to work

That firmware version will show up even if you don't have the ip communicating correctly I think.

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 04, 2015, 08:58:18 PM
Thanks Larry, changed that in both spots and rebooted Classic.  Waiting for an hr to see if it is working

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 04, 2015, 11:11:43 PM
Andrew, too  strange,


Address entered is as above post by Larry ...  put the 159.203.65.201  address in both

I saved the MM V 3 page to my favorites, but when I click and go there I have to log off and sign back in before I can see my Classic?

.....

and there is no data showing yet....

Also a  of LOT  of drop-offs on the L App with this  MM version

tks
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 05, 2015, 02:11:40 AM
You should not have to enter the new IP in the regular primary DNS field, although this field is simply ignored if the Override field is set to anything but 0.0.0.0

There is a dumb problem at the moment where some folks might not be able to see data because the javascript is trying to select a tab which isn't there. I have a fix for this, but it hasn't made it up to the server yet.

You may also notice the auto refresh isn't 100% yet and that the Remaining Amp hours doesn't agree with the Classic. This last one will be going away as the support just isn't there in the code.

Again, thanks for helping us test this.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 05, 2015, 11:28:46 AM
Andrew, just to clarify,

I did not change my Classics  IP address,
the subnet is255.255.255.0, 
Gateway is same as my IP address,
Primary DNS is 159.203.65.201 as is the DNS Override


Just clicked the back arrow , left most widget where the data chart should be, and it is stuck trying to download...

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 05, 2015, 02:05:59 PM
I was talking about the Primary DNS. That field is ignored if the Override is set to anything but 0.0.0.0.
In usual operation the Classic uses the IP address as it's own location on the network, either static or DHCP (assigned from the router).
If the DNS Override is set to anything other than 0.0.0.0 then that is the address that the Classic assumes is mymidnite and tries to talk the MyMidNite server at that address.
If the DNS Override is set to 0.0.0.0 then the normal DNS routine is used: the name "mymidnite.com" is sent to the Primary DNS address which should respond with the IP address of MyMidnite.com. This address is then the one that the Classic assumes is the midnite server and tries to talk to it.


Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: eric on November 05, 2015, 04:21:05 PM
Hi,
I have the Classic 150 at a remote cabin and previously was never able to get it to log in to mymidnite. I uploaded the new firmware the other morning and it worked right away logging into the MMV3 site. I'm showing FW 2074 NW 2073. My problem is that the logging drops off after midnight everyday since I installed the firmware. I'm able to log in to the classic through the LA remotely. Every morning I've been rebooting it with the bully option. After rebooting, it soon logs in to the MMV3 site and is good all day until midnight. I have tried both checking & unchecking the night auto reset box in the LA, doesn't seem to make a difference. It is interesting that after I reboot and the classic logs into the MMV3 site for the first time, it uploads all the data from midnight until the morning in the 7-8 minute intervals. I didn't realize it would do that. Anything else I can try?
Thanks,
Eric
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 05, 2015, 07:46:24 PM
Hi Andrew, and Eric, 

I changed the to DNS Override to 0.0.0.0 and did a VMM....

OK, so 3 1/2 hours have passed since I did that VMM.  It has had no effect.

I tried Eric's BULLY reboot, no change.

I noticed that the time is out 1 hr due to us being off DST and I went to the Classic, changed to the correct local time and did another VMM.....  so far, again, no success...    ??

another Eric


Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 06, 2015, 02:17:34 AM
Hi, Eric(WB) and Eric.
If you want to use MMv3 you have to set the MM/DNS Override field to 159.203.65.201. Primary DNS is ignored. If you want to use the Original MM, set the MM/DNS Override field to 0.0.0.0, In this case the Primary DNS is used and should be set to your service provider's Primary DNS server or use Google's 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4.

Eric, as for your problem with the unit dropping off every midnight, that is a very interesting phenomenon. I'm not sure if other folks have seen that yet, but if anyone has, please post.
Eric, maybe you wouldn't mind using the local app "Export" feature to PM me your Classic's register settings so I can see if anything looks amiss. The Export is in Config, just hidden below the scroll line under the Unlock Code.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 06, 2015, 01:06:32 PM
Morning Andrew, 

Well I tried wiping out my FF cache in case there was something hiding there, no obvious change.

I decided to see if I| can get the old MM to work again, and then shift to MMV3 if the  old MM works...


I just reset to 8.8.8.8 and 0.0.0.0 to see what happens as using all other combinations is NOT working..  will advise soon..
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 06, 2015, 03:40:14 PM
Andrew I don't know if this might be related my no connection issue but here is all I get when i hit my 'saved link'

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Halfcrazy on November 06, 2015, 03:52:46 PM
Yes that is the screen that comes up when you log on. Then you click your username at the top right. I sort of think it should go right to the main tab myself
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 06, 2015, 03:53:51 PM
when I Log Off snd Sign IN again I get to here...

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 06, 2015, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on November 06, 2015, 03:52:46 PM
Yes that is the screen that comes up when you log on. Then you click your username at the top right.


A hidden 'back door'.....Now that is pretty counter intuitive..... nor documented, to my memory... though it might be failing... fast these days...

Quote from: Halfcrazy on November 06, 2015, 03:52:46 PM
I sort of think it should go right to the main tab myself

+1
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 06, 2015, 08:24:04 PM
Evening Andrew.... well none of the changes I made today have made any difference,still nothing... in addition to going back to
the oldMM setting 50.57.186.165/0.0.0.0  ... I am going to re-install the FW v 2057 next...

Re-install of FW done successfully, including a complete removal and download.... no VMM following re-install....

a good hour has passed and NADA on either....  I have no suggestions
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Resthome on November 08, 2015, 12:59:28 AM
Quote from: Westbranch on November 06, 2015, 08:24:04 PM
Evening Andrew.... well none of the changes I made today have made any difference,still nothing... in addition to going back to
the oldMM setting 50.57.186.165/0.0.0.0  ... I am going to re-install the FW v 2057 next...

Re-install of FW done successfully, including a complete removal and download.... no VMM following re-install....

a good hour has passed and NADA on either....  I have no suggestions

Are you rebooting the Classic after every DNS change?  Andrew has always said that is required.

And IMHO a VMM is a very good thing after firmware update so I would not skip that step either.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 08, 2015, 01:14:33 AM
Hi John,

YUP!   VMM and SWMBO do not go together after dark, especially when dinner is on the stove... ::) this after  I shut down the internet every time I VMM'ed and she was on line  ???

kind of like cats and water   :o

ditto after FW update, it feels like I did > a dozen yesterday, plus re-setting all the custom stuff for AGMs via the L APP... and doing a VMM for that too just to be sure... I KNOW it is going to be something small... really small.

add: I now know how to do a VMM with my thumb and adjacent finger and free my left hand to switch the CB's  ;)
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 09, 2015, 03:30:38 AM
Westbranch --
A couple things here. It looks like you have bookmarked the front page of mymidnite and not your personal page, that is why when you click your bookmark you are going to the front page an not your personal page. The address of your personal page should be something like https://159.203.65.201/?q=user/816.

Second, it seems that there are a lot of settings going on that don't need to change. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you have been entering. All you _should_ need to do to get the device on the new mymidnite is to update to the latest beta firmware from the link that Ryan provided. Then change the DNS override value to 159.203.65.201. Then reboot the Classic. You should not have to change any other fields. The Primary DNS setting will have no effect as long as the DNS override is set to 159.203.65.201. Your IP address and subnet should not change. The only field that needs to change is the MM/DNS Override field.
WHen the MM field is set, do a hard power reboot on the Classic and maybe a quick check to make sure that the Network fields are all the same as you set them before the reboot. If the unit is still not calling in then there must be something else going on that we can investigate further.



Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 09, 2015, 03:34:44 AM
Having a quick look, it looks like you are running FW 2054 and not 2074 -- at least according to the MM logs. 2054 will not work with the new MMv3, you'll need the latest from Ryan's link.


Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 09, 2015, 03:36:55 AM
http://bob.midniteftp.com/MidNiteSolarUpdate_2074_11-2-2015_v4.95.exe
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 09, 2015, 11:54:27 AM
Quote from: atop8918 on November 09, 2015, 03:34:44 AM
Having a quick look, it looks like you are running FW 2054 and not 2074 --

very interesting as this is the readout from my classic

FW V.2074   -  NetW2073  -   MNGP2054
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 09, 2015, 12:43:38 PM
Could this be the source of the problem?

starting at line  #11...

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on November 09, 2015, 01:51:40 PM
Quote from: Westbranch on November 09, 2015, 12:43:38 PM
Could this be the source of the problem?

starting at line  #11...

My folder has all those old firmwares listed too back to 1341 and it works.

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Halfcrazy on November 09, 2015, 02:59:57 PM
Correct that is normal. The batch file calls the proper file. Can you send me a screen shot of the local app showing the network settings?

Ryan
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 09, 2015, 03:21:15 PM
Hi ryan, not on site now but here is a copy at sometime last Friday ....

ADD:  set to STATIC
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 10, 2015, 01:00:02 PM
Quote from: atop8918 on November 09, 2015, 03:30:38 AM
Westbranch --
It looks like you have bookmarked the front page of mymidnite and not your personal page, that is why when you click your bookmark you are going to the front page an not your personal page. The address of your personal page should be something like https://159.203.65.201/?q=user/816.

Andrew, here is what I get using your link above... it didn't sign me in straight away... but the address I use now is https://159.203.65.201/?q=user   and it takes me to a filled in page , like the second pic... So I think for me that problem is solved.
thanks
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 10, 2015, 01:29:51 PM
Quote from: atop8918 on November 09, 2015, 03:30:38 AM
Westbranch --

All you _should_ need to do to get the device on the new mymidnite is to update to the latest beta firmware from the link that Ryan provided. Then change the DNS override value to 159.203.65.201. Then reboot the Classic. You should not have to change any other fields. The Primary DNS setting will have no effect as long as the DNS override is set to 159.203.65.201. Your IP address and subnet should not change. The only field that needs to change is the MM/DNS Override field.

WHen the MM field is set, do a hard power reboot on the Classic and maybe a quick check to make sure that the Network fields are all the same as you set them before the reboot. If the unit is still not calling in then there must be something else going on that we can investigate further.

I have done a HARD REBOOT (power down) every time I did a FW install or LAPP change to the settings... just to make sure  . 

We are going back on Friday and I will re-download the Installer from
http://www.midnitesolar.com/firmwareReport.php?firmware_ID=17&firmwareProduct_ID=1&act=edit
and  redo the FW install and re-make the IP changes as you outlined above  ... ???  :-\
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on November 10, 2015, 05:06:48 PM
Good luck ! It just has to work one of these times ! I hope so - seems like you have done it all.

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Halfcrazy on November 10, 2015, 05:30:12 PM
I would not keep doing the firmware that cant be it. It has to be something on the settings or on Andrews end. When you are there PM me the Device ID and Mac address and I will work with Andrew to sort this out, or RMA the Classic.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 10, 2015, 06:46:17 PM
10-4 

I am getting quite used to doing screen captures, to avoid ambiguity..
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: eric on November 11, 2015, 11:55:47 AM
QuoteEric, as for your problem with the unit dropping off every midnight, that is a very interesting phenomenon. I'm not sure if other folks have seen that yet, but if anyone has, please post.

So I've been trying to get to the bottom of this. The unit is still not checking in to MMV3 after midnight everyday. I had been rebooting the unit remotely every morning to reset it, which has been working. But I did realize on Sunday when I woke up later that the unit had reconnected to MM on its own that morning. So since Sunday, I've been noticing in the early morning that the unit has been not checking to MM since before midnight, but instead of rebooting I've done nothing....It turns out that the unit eventually connects with MM around 7-8am. I don't have the exact time, because I've just not been patient enough to check it every 10 minutes throughout the morning.

So that led me to think maybe it's a setting on my router? But I don't know what that would be. Also I have a xantrex combox unit which calls in to its server and that runs all night, so doesn't seem like it would be a router issue.
Eric
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 11, 2015, 12:09:29 PM
I don't have the exact time, because I've just not been patient enough to check it every 10 minutes throughout the morning.

Look for straight lines on the MM graph, those will be the time periods the MM is off line...If you drag you mouse cursor and stop it at any place it will show the approx time over on the left in the data readout box...


hth
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: eric on November 12, 2015, 11:11:28 AM
QuoteLook for straight lines on the MM graph, those will be the time periods the MM is off line...If you drag you mouse cursor and stop it at any place it will show the approx time over on the left in the data readout box...

The only straight lines I see would be straight anyway because it's night time. pv voltage is constant, etc. screenshot attached.
Thanks,
Eric
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Halfcrazy on November 12, 2015, 02:05:24 PM
From what I can see the little power bars (Blue vertical bars) are all there so that would tell me it is calling in steady.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: eric on November 12, 2015, 02:40:54 PM
maybe it has to do with my login to the MMV3 site then? Because when I login in the morning, I only have data showing up to 11:5x pm the night before. I refresh the web page or logout then login again and still no data from midnight until morning. Then around 7-8 am all the data shows up.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Halfcrazy on November 12, 2015, 04:06:15 PM
yeah that sure sounds odd. But it is on the MM/Browser end as the classic will not back fill missing data. So that data is in the server you just are not seeing it. Maybe the browser is caching the page. I will mention this to Andrew
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 13, 2015, 12:23:40 AM
Yeah that is pretty strange. Your data does seem to be very consistent, Eric. What browser are you using to access MM? Can you get the about/version as well?


Thanks,
-A
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: eric on November 13, 2015, 11:29:54 AM
Firefox 42.0 on a pc
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 13, 2015, 10:23:16 PM
Quote from: eric on November 13, 2015, 11:29:54 AM
Firefox 42.0 on a pc

Same V. of  FF here,  almost the same problem, no data showing... ?

Additional Extensions:

AdBlock Plus, 
Adblock Plus Pop-up Addon 0.9.2.1,
Lightbeam 1.2.1.1,
Ghostery 5.4.9
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on November 13, 2015, 10:52:59 PM
I use Firefox - no problems . I have beta version 43 .

Always has worked fine for me . Guess I am lucky.  Any chance it is something weird with your router ? I use a Linksys with DDWRT firmware set up as access point  that is cat5  to another linksys DDWRT in client mode wifi  to another access point that has the internet .

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on November 13, 2015, 10:54:58 PM
Quote from: ClassicCrazy on October 24, 2015, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on October 20, 2015, 09:12:44 AM
So Andrew has opened up My MidNite ver3 with WBjr support and advanced logging etc.
Please post any odd behavior etc here

Seems to be working fine for me Ryan . Only thing I notice so far is Energy label says Wh instead of kWh .

Larry

Thanks Andrew for finally fixing that kwh label MM ver 3 site !
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 13, 2015, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: ClassicCrazy on November 13, 2015, 10:52:59 PM
Any chance it is something weird with your router ?

I don't think so as it works fine with the L App; as well as it WAS working with/for the 'drupal ' (old) version of MM, made one change to the DNS override and blewy, gone...  however when making a screen capture for Ryan this afternoon, \i noticed in the lower left of the screen flashing messages, of 'connecting to', waiting for' and 'TRANSFERING DATA FROM 159.203.65.201'... THEN THERE IS THE MESSAGE NO DATA    ?????

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on November 14, 2015, 01:45:43 PM
For some reason my Classic communications locked up last night  - according to MyMidnite online  last report was 1:44 AM . I noticed this morning I couldn't log in with Local Status app. Restarting the Classic fixed it all .

But this is about the first time this has ever happened - has always been very stable.

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 15, 2015, 03:51:03 PM
Hi everyone,
I figured this out in a dream the other night. No kidding -- I seem to do my best debugging when I'm asleep these days, pity I don't get to do it very often. SO the problem is on MyMidNite end itself, nothing to do with the front-end website or the Classic. I've got 2 databases to make data access faster, but one developed a small problem syncing the other day and I haven't had a chance to fix it yet. You have a 50-50 chance of getting either database when you request data and if you happen to get the broken one then no data! I'll get to repairing the offline DB this week. Sorry for the inconvenience!
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 15, 2015, 04:15:48 PM
I hope you are correct Andrew..... but 100% of all my MM V3 connections have come up EMPTY.... 

so is there some other 'hook' that keeps me going to the bad DB?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 15, 2015, 04:36:11 PM
Well in some cases it might be a genuine problem, though if you were able to get to MMv1&2 there should be no problem getting to 3 if the settings are correct? Just to double check I'd verify that you can contact MMv3 from your installation site from a PC if you haven't already of course!
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 15, 2015, 04:56:38 PM
OK, so am I correct in believing that this screen capture tells me I'm there?

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 15, 2015, 05:02:21 PM
Yeah if that's on site you should be fine. If the unit isn't calling in though there's obviously something else going funny.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 15, 2015, 05:34:48 PM
How can  I check whether it is able to call in ?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 15, 2015, 07:53:54 PM
I did a little digging and found a tool in WhatismyIP >  IP LOOKUP...  so what did I find? 

A timeout occurs at the same address 162.243.188.194....The CULPRIT is an outfit called DIGITAL OCEAN, sound familiar ?

How about:

Hostname:   www1-zaphodbeeblebrox.mymidnite.com
ISP:   Digital Ocean
Organization:   Digital Ocean

Hostname:   162.243.188.194  Whoever this is???
ASN:   393406
ISP:   Digital Ocean
Organization:   Digital Ocean

(//)



So What is going on?  It is there but not there as their computer bounces it???
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 15, 2015, 10:01:18 PM
Doug , I did the same trace 3 times over half an hour and then again all with similar(same as I did not arrive)  results, though a different set of addresses...  no arrival for takeoff...  I really am suspicious as the MM V3 servers do not have any data for more than 10 days now while the old MM worked,....
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 15, 2015, 10:59:04 PM
and more

done 3 times and all timed out...
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 15, 2015, 11:20:21 PM
Yet Traceroute CLAIMS to have got to the MM V3 site...????


AS does a ping on the name...???
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 17, 2015, 08:41:48 AM
You probably won't be able to get a ping response from mymidnite2 as I've disabled public ICMP for security reasons.

I haven't seen your device show up in the logs at all, at least nothing associated with the device ID 1493 60FF if that one is yours, WB.

If you are so inclined, you _could_ try wireshark and see if there is anything coming out of your Classic. It should be talking to someone as long as web access is enabled and the MM Override is set unless it is totally broken of course.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 17, 2015, 10:59:11 AM
Well I will have to wait till I get back out there..

Classic is 4592 and I am getting Local App connection

will look into wireshark

ADD1:  4592 was talking to MMv1


ADD2: Yes that ID is my Classic,
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 18, 2015, 11:20:22 PM
Andrew, from a "how to use Wireshark  .."

You’ll probably see packets highlighted in green, blue, and black. Wireshark uses colors to help you identify the types of traffic at a glance. By default, green is TCP traffic, dark blue is DNS traffic, light blue is UDP traffic, and black identifies TCP packets with problems

Am I correct in thinking that it is DNS traffic I should track? or is it TCP and TCP packet problems?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Resthome on November 19, 2015, 12:14:06 AM
WB

I'm not Andrew and he may have you look for something specific. But if it was me I would make sure the LA is not connected and look for TCP IP traffic with the IP address of your Classic and see who that address is talking to if anyone.

If you don't see and responses you could turn the LA on and see if you can see TCP IP traffic between the classic and your PC. If you are doing these off site you may see more traffic than if you were locL and on site.

Just my two cents. Some were on here I posted a snap shot of a local wire shark trace. I'll have too see if I can find it.

Here it is. http://kb1uas.com/mnsforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=d7f7e6b266fe909a9c9cd3e9463d514c&topic=1054.msg8230#msg8230 (http://kb1uas.com/mnsforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=d7f7e6b266fe909a9c9cd3e9463d514c&topic=1054.msg8230#msg8230)
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on November 19, 2015, 02:56:44 AM
For Wireshark with MM traffic, simply filter on HTTP traffic. You can add the IP of your Classic as well:

http && ip.addr==192.168.xx.xx

Note that the PC running wireshark may or may not see the traffic from the classic depending on where it is located and your particular network hardware. In order to be truly scientific about it, it is best to put the PC between the Classic and the router and setup a network bridge. This does require two ethernet ports or one ethernet and one wireless. Alternately you can use an older hub (not switch!) which will route all traffic to all ports.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 20, 2015, 01:49:52 PM
Andrew, looks like I may be able to use my older Netgear DS104 hub to intercept the comms from the Classic to MM,  fingers crossed  :o Not sure when I'll be out , a full week ahead right now...
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 28, 2015, 09:34:58 PM
Well some 'Wiresharking' by a total newbee to it, came up with a potential answer to what is / is not going on...  and it is very strange!

I don't know what you did Andrew but please fix it asap!

here is what |I got  with a 'Sharking' of the lan set up into the hub...





Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on November 28, 2015, 10:18:09 PM
What is your interpretation of that Westbranch ?  What needs to be fixed ?

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 28, 2015, 10:43:50 PM
this is what I see:

Line 1 CL calls mmv3 with a TEST request for HTTP 1.0  or ?
Line 2 MM v3 calls back with an OK for HTTP 1.1 (200 OK)
line 3 CL sends another request for HTTP / 1.0
Line 4 MM V3 says get lost  ( 401 Unauthorized)

then it repeats


Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on November 28, 2015, 10:50:58 PM
So that might mean that  something is messed up with your registration on the MM3 site ? Have they or you ever just deleted your account there and re-registered it ?

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on November 28, 2015, 10:54:23 PM
Not that I am aware of...
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on December 01, 2015, 04:01:27 PM
I just got this email from Midnite. I noticed that I had to change to the url below to log in - the old ip address didn't work. But once logged in all my info was in there and works fine.
So I guess none of this is Beta any longer.
I have in firmware 2074  and the email below says there is now 2079 - guess I missed hearing about that one but will give it a go next time I am out at the solar site. 
Has there been any progress on the Windows 10 updater ?

Here is the email.



        MidNite Solar Inc. <kim@midnitesolar.com>
        Today at 11:56 AM



Message body
   
11-30-2015


Notice

The web based My MidNite is being updated to a newer version. The older version will continue to work until 2/29/16 Customers will need to update the firmware in the Classic to use the new version of My MidNite


Firmware and instructions can be found here:
Rev 2079 

The new URL for the new version of My MidNite is https://mymidnite2.com and all the existing accounts from the previous version will already be in place and should work just like the old one.


If you have any questions on the new My MidNite please reach out to our support department. You can find the contact info here:
  http://www.midnitesolar.com/support.php

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on December 01, 2015, 04:13:05 PM
Here is the firmware change log from 2074  to  present

11-2-2015
         Classic control Version 2074 adds My Midnite 3 capability  (MM3)

         Networking fixes added back in.

         Auto-EQ bug fixed where EQ day count would be reset if Classic went
         back to Float, essentially disabling Auto-EQ

11-9-2015
         Classic_ALL_2074_XX0V_11-9-2015  changes WbJrAmpHourChrg,
         WbJrAmpHourDisChrgadj, WbJrAmpHourChrgadj  32 bit regs to
         register address 4407 from register address 4373
         
11-16-2015
         Classic_ALL_2077C_xx0V_11-16-2015  Classic Revision 2077 with
         newer network build from 11-14-2015 and ReBulk above Float Voltage
         and SOC% fix

11-20-2015
         Classic_ALL_2078_xxxV_11-17-2015_AZT  Re-Build of 2077C

11-23-2015
         Classic build 2079   Fixes MNLP (Classic Lite panel) communications glitch

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on December 01, 2015, 07:59:15 PM
  https://mymidnite2.com translates into 159.203.65.201

which is/was the topic of this thread.... MyMidnite Ver 3 (Beta)   ???  confusing?  Yup!
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on December 02, 2015, 09:51:02 AM
Quote from: Westbranch on December 01, 2015, 07:59:15 PM
  https://mymidnite2.com translates into 159.203.65.201

which is/was the topic of this thread.... MyMidnite Ver 3 (Beta)   ???  confusing?  Yup!

The IP numerical address does not work any longer, but the mymidite2.com does to the same page from what I can tell.

I think it worked like this
Original Mymidnite
then mymidnite alpha ( ver2)
Then this one mymidnite (ver3) beta which has become the official mymidnite2.com for everyone  who wasn't playing around with the alpha and beta's like we were. So for them there was just mymidnite original and now mymidnite2.

Think I got that right !

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on December 02, 2015, 10:37:44 AM
Yeah we're all talking a cross purposes here (or porpoises?). MMv1 was the original. MMv2 was a stopgap ALPHA test site which we used to add a bunch of new test features but never released to the General Public. MMv3 is the final release server which y'all have been kindly testing for us but only we few call it MMv3. It's release name for all the rest of our customers is

https://mymidnite2.com

since most of them will never have heard of MMv2 or MMv3 and will be confused if we suddenly launched mymidnite3. Unless they are Star Wars fans.

mymidnite2.com is simply a DNS entry for 159.203.65.201. Just as mymidnite.com is a DNS entry for 98.129.247.45. You can use them interchangably although you have to be careful about https and http and www. since they don't all play nicely yet. 
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Resthome on January 05, 2016, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Westbranch on November 28, 2015, 10:43:50 PM
this is what I see:

Line 1 CL calls mmv3 with a TEST request for HTTP 1.0  or ?
Line 2 MM v3 calls back with an OK for HTTP 1.1 (200 OK)
line 3 CL sends another request for HTTP / 1.0
Line 4 MM V3 says get lost  ( 401 Unauthorized)

then it repeats

WB

Did you ever get connected to MyMidnite? Just wondering what the resolution was if there was one.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on January 05, 2016, 01:58:11 PM
Hi John, the new board arrived 2 days before we were headed out for our annual 2 week family tour.
We arrived home 2 days ago with the '100 day cough + sinus ache' that is floating around up here, so  just waiting to get some energy back before getting the snow machine fired up and head west. 
Still snowing here every other day, at about 3 - 10 inches per, so its good for the well!  :)
How is California doing water wise?

Temps hovering just above zero *F, but overcast a lot.
I am hoping for a visit west next week , health permitting... Will post from the lake when I have installed new board, etc. etc..

Eric
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on January 05, 2016, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: atop8918 on December 02, 2015, 10:37:44 AM
You can use them interchangeably although you have to be careful about https and http and www. since they don't all play nicely yet.

Hi Andrew, did you manage to get these 2 to work together yet?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: mike90045 on January 05, 2016, 04:48:56 PM
Quote from: Westbranch on January 05, 2016, 01:58:11 PM
.....How is California doing water wise?......
Quote

Currently wet.  This AM's forecast said 15" rain in the next 16 days....  Day 10 it's going to get "interesting"

Sierra snow pack is at 120% of "normal", but not enough to erase 6 deficit years. 

Just got my backup genset #2 going, and both are functional and on standby now.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on January 05, 2016, 08:36:08 PM
 :o.... Mike, that translates into 2 + weeks of no sun....ouch!  :'(   
but the overall situation is positive water wise... 8) for your trees... No?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: mike90045 on January 05, 2016, 09:40:51 PM
Currently, it's all turning into runoff.  Got 1.8" today, can't always trust the forecast !    But some is soaking in, and all the trees are loving it, lots of buds forming up.  Now to hope we don't get hard frosts in Feb/Mar.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Cniemand on January 07, 2016, 04:05:51 PM
Side question : Why do Charge Controllers never come with the ability to charge via a genset? I would be happy to purchase an auxillary component to hook between a genset and the PV input of the Classic if that were ever available or possible.

Inverters typically are inverter/generators. I own a VFX3648, however, they come preset for Pb voltage set-points. If I want to customize them I have to purchase a Mate in order to do so. I would be essentially buying a mate just to change the voltage set-points once and then have no use for the mate. (I use Midnites monitoring so the outback stuff isn't a bonus to me)

Additionally I have come to trust what the Classic is doing and how it handles the charging to safely work with LFP cells.

Cloud
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on January 08, 2016, 01:18:04 AM
I know what you mean - but at least I have some friends who have an Outback Mate I can borrow to make changes on the inverter setpoints. I think dgd and others were working on getting raspberry pi or arduino to be able to talk directly to inverter without using the Mate. Not sure how that project is coming along but I think I will look it up now.
found this - maybe I will ask dgd in the open software section of this group
https://hackaday.io/project/7624-outback-mate-reverse-engineering

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Cniemand on January 08, 2016, 02:12:26 AM
Thanks, Larry. Good stuff. :)
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on February 02, 2016, 08:14:50 PM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on November 10, 2015, 05:30:12 PM
I would not keep doing the firmware that cant be it. It has to be something on the settings or on Andrews end. When you are there PM me the Device ID and Mac address and I will work with Andrew to sort this out, or RMA the Classic.

Ryan, Andrew,

OK so the board is in place and a FW reset done now I am trying to use the L App to reenter my settings for the FW version

First I see that is a new IP address showing  192.168.1.60 and the LA will not connect to the old one...

down  to the MNGP,  and look for new stuff,   SN is listed as 27521, MNGP FW 2054, Classic FW2056

I try 27501 in the L APP, nada, try old SN 4592  that works,

Reset all specific values I want....  the only one that will not respond is Battery capacity... ???


Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on February 03, 2016, 12:02:42 AM
I successfully updated to FW2079   ;D :) @ 20:50 tonight...

Andrew,

at 21:10 PST I changed the DNS override to 159.203.65.201 so please tell me the MM2 site is connected to 192.168.1.60:502...  please?

PPS 21:43
the new setup does NOT INCLUDE a way to name new devices anymore, so where the hell did thst function go?all you get is the \mac attack address and the Device ID....... not a happy camper....
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on February 03, 2016, 03:49:55 AM
Did you reboot the unit once changing the DNS Override address? Did you verify that WEB ACCESS is still set to enabled? Are you sure that the firmware update took? I've seen a few folks go through the process successfully but for some reason the update didn't take.

You could never name the Classic from the website. The website reads the Classic's name from the Classic. Use the MNGP or the Local App to set it locally. If you aren't seeing the Classic's name on the website then it hasn't connected. Expand the Info badge by clicking on the right-facing triangle and click on the "Device" tab. If the "Firmware Revision" field is set to 0 then the Classic hasn't called in yet.

MyMidNite has no information on what IP address your Classic is on. 192.168.x.x are private networking addresses anyway and change to your router's IP address once it leaves your house. The Classic calls out to MyMidNite and if it can't get there it won't deliver any data. MyMidNite DOES NOT call in back to your house. It cannot as most ISPs use dynamic IP addresses for the WAN-facing side of your router.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 03, 2016, 05:45:32 AM
Quote from: Westbranch on February 03, 2016, 12:02:42 AM
I successfully updated to FW2079   ;D :) @ 20:50 tonight...

Andrew,

at 21:10 PST I changed the DNS override to 159.203.65.201 so please tell me the MM2 site is connected to 192.168.1.60:502...  please?

PPS 21:43
the new setup does NOT INCLUDE a way to name new devices anymore, so where the hell did thst function go?all you get is the \mac attack address and the Device ID....... not a happy camper....

The only place to change the classics name is on the local app.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on February 03, 2016, 08:49:49 AM
I thought we put a name on the system on Mymidnite website ?  At least that is how I did it initially. In Mymidnite there is a tab that takes on the name that you gave it by clicking + Add systems and devices.  Maybe we are talking about different things.

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on February 03, 2016, 09:04:22 AM
Sure, you can name systems. You can even delete them now! But you can't name classics themselves using the site which I think is what the statement was.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on February 03, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Hi Andrew, OK, there must be a bad upgrade...  The Classic was called ....'Classic'   so there are no comms taking place,
Yes Web access was enabled and in STATIC mode.
Next will re do the VMM too as made a name change as well this AM
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on February 03, 2016, 12:31:08 PM
Andrew, can to tell me the versions of FW that will work together with V 2079?  I have:
2079 (up from 2056)  &
Gp 2054, no change 
& NW V 2073,  no change 

VMM done....

ADD: Just noticed another non connection oddity,
I still get Un-named for Device name on MM2 after entering the MAC and Dev name...

Is this related to the number I had to use to use the L app, 4592, vs the new board has its name as Classic 27501? or is it the non comm going on ?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on February 03, 2016, 12:57:17 PM
here is a capture..

I just deleted that ''Unnamed'' device and then reloaded all the info, saw the messages at the bottom of the screen etc, but the name change was not detected or transfered
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Resthome on February 03, 2016, 01:14:53 PM
Quote from: Westbranch on February 03, 2016, 12:31:08 PM
Andrew, can to tell me the versions of FW that will work together with V 2079?  I have:
2079 (up from 2056)  &
Gp 2054, no change 
& NW V 2073,  no change 

VMM done....

ADD: Just noticed another non connection oddity,
I still get Un-named for Device name on MM2 after entering the MAC and Dev name...

Is this related to the number I had to use to use the L app, 4592, vs the new board has its name as Classic 27501? or is it the non comm going on ?

WB ..  when I had to change that top control board they loaded my old (original) S/N into the new (replacement)board at the factory IIRC. So it would look like my original unit. Not sure what is going on with yours, but I thought somewhere they told me about that but it may have been in an email exchange.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on February 03, 2016, 02:20:31 PM
ditto here, I was asked for the current FW version and was told that they would load that, but it came with 2054 not 2074???
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on February 03, 2016, 03:09:47 PM
Well here we go again .....REJECTED...  :-X   >:(
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Resthome on February 03, 2016, 08:39:30 PM
Sure looks like what ever it uses to authenticate you Classic on the web site is the problem.

Seem to me when I changed that control board I ended up with a different MAC or Device ID from what I had before and I had to get Andrew to included it in his database. The lists of devices on the web site was not automatic back when I used it. Especially with RMAs and it would take a long time to get added unless Andrew intervened. But I'm only guessing because I don't have a clue as to what is going on other that it doesn't like you log on credentials what ever they are. Could be using S/N.

BTW does the MNGP show the SN? I can't remember if it does or not. My documentation of the Classic Menus shows SN listed under the NET MENU so you might see what is showing there if my document is correct since I have no Classic MNGP to look at.  Seem like a strange location for it.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on February 03, 2016, 08:59:28 PM
thanks for that info John, however it is not there.  That is where the  MAC attack and the coded name for your unit show , under NET...
The odd number CL27501 crops up on the last page of pushing the little round butt on on the left  It is Cl 27501, its the page with the MNGP and FW versions showing...???? don't know how that is used   ???  maybe as you said...

What is strange is that   MM2   accepted my Mac and coded  Name (SN) but it did NOT accept the stock name of' Classic'.  I hope Andrew comes back with a solution tonight..

So Andrew, to swage your curiosity I did do another FW this afternoon and here id the Wireshark  sniff... NO change, actually worse than the old board...as at least it didn't get told to bog off on the first try...
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Resthome on February 03, 2016, 09:33:11 PM
Didn't surprise me that the documentation is out of date.   :(

See attached



Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: atop8918 on February 04, 2016, 03:15:52 AM
Looks like your device is not in the database.
This is pretty normal if it's an RMA since those come straight off the assembly line. The MAC and the device ID follow the control board as they live on the processor.

email me using the contact form on mymidnite2 and I'll get it put in.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Resthome on February 04, 2016, 03:34:25 AM
Quote from: atop8918 on February 04, 2016, 03:15:52 AM
Looks like your device is not in the database.
This is pretty normal if it's an RMA since those come straight off the assembly line. The MAC and the device ID follow the control board as they live on the processor.

email me using the contact form on mymidnite2 and I'll get it put in.

WB

Looks like Andrew is going to fix you up with MM.

I still don't understand why the other SN is showing up.  Maybe I should check mine out next trip to see if I show two different ones. I don't think so but you never know what I might have missed.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on February 04, 2016, 12:33:04 PM
Ryan, Andrew, John I had a strange incident this morning, I tried the local app , restarted it 3 x,  and it was unable to connect.  I went down to the CC and checked a few settings, hit ENTER once or twice to change some 'wrong' settings, it appeared (on the MNGP) not to have retained after  a Midnite Reset.

When I started the L App it connected right off...

I am wondering if this is part of this issue.  The MNGP did not show the proper Absorb time, battery capacity. sweep interval   ??
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Resthome on February 04, 2016, 04:28:02 PM
Quote from: Westbranch on February 04, 2016, 12:33:04 PM
Ryan, Andrew, John I had a strange incident this morning, I tried the local app , restarted it 3 x,  and it was unable to connect.  I went down to the CC and checked a few settings, hit ENTER once or twice to change some 'wrong' settings, it appeared (on the MNGP) not to have retained after  a Midnite Reset.

When I started the L App it connected right off...

I am wondering if this is part of this issue.  The MNGP did not show the proper Absorb time, battery capacity. sweep interval   ??

Battery Capacity always reset with the VMM.

Do you change the sweep time from the default 3 min? 

Absorb time I have had issues with when its change is actually effective.  In other words if the time is 2 hrs and i change it to 3 hrs and look at the time remaining the time remaining is still counting down from the 2hr . It eventually corrects itself by the next day but my experience is that the actual timer take some about of time to adjust to the Absorb time.

Did you use the LA to reload your settings. I've never used it so don't know what it's effects are.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on February 05, 2016, 12:04:47 AM
Drat, I knew I should have added a reference to what it was last night when I shut down at 22:00 or so, I was hoping Andrew was on line early...

Hi John,

All VMM-ing happened the night before I made the quoted post...   :-[

Yes I use a 2 minute sweep due to shadowing.

My normal Absorb time  over the winter is 4 hrs to ensure it does not go into Float... I'm not worried about 1 day at 2 hrs but the following has to be 4 hrs...

Yup, I use the LA and am very happy with how easy it is to make adjustments.  some as you know require a follow up VMM...


Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on April 30, 2016, 02:47:33 PM
Just to try, having heard no news lately of fixes, I tried to get to the MM2 site, got to sif=gn in bbut when I tried to go further, got  a Zero % sinning wheej annd then a message that it  could not get to the server...

Andrew, is this a improvement or a retrograde from before?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: grgdgreek on May 28, 2016, 08:44:55 AM
I'm getting and having the same problem :(      Cannot connect to server try again later it says....  Any thoughts anyone?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on May 28, 2016, 09:39:19 AM
Quote from: grgdgreek on May 28, 2016, 08:44:55 AM
I'm getting and having the same problem :(      Cannot connect to server try again later it says....  Any thoughts anyone?

Same problem with what ?  The old MyMidnite site was shut down so you need to have the latest firmware and change the IP address in the Network section to the proper one for the MyMidnite new site - in case you haven't done that. Instructions should be on the MyMidnite page on Midnite site.

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: grgdgreek on May 28, 2016, 09:56:20 AM
my midnite2 or my midnite3 ? I registered on the my midnite2.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on May 29, 2016, 12:33:11 AM
Quote from: grgdgreek on May 28, 2016, 09:56:20 AM
my midnite2 or my midnite3 ? I registered on the my midnite2.

yeah there was some confusion on the mymidnite 1, 2 , 3  . Original was 1 then there was a beta 2 and beta 3 but then newest MyMidnite was called MyMidnite 2 which is what is now available.  Setting the auto reset at midnite helps keep  from loosing it and having to restart Classic to get it back.   As far as the browser refreshing it automatically , I think it used to do that but now seems like I just have to hit the refresh button on the browser to see updated data.

Make sure you have the clock set to correct time on Classic .

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: grgdgreek on May 29, 2016, 04:36:39 AM
Hello:-)
So I just went down to double check-time+date ok
Auto reset ok
Still nada -sigh
Thank you,
George
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Halfcrazy on May 31, 2016, 09:59:13 AM
What firmware version are you running?
Assuming you "Enabled" Web Access and rebooted the Classic?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: grgdgreek on May 31, 2016, 12:23:26 PM
O.k. you are not going to believe this....
Just got home an said -"eh let me try connecting" Viola now works.-!!!!
I'm trying to wrap my head around this.
What's goin on???
To answer the above Q.  2096 2097 - full reboot.
I did this before installing the classics.
I have not changed nothing in the past 2days!
Now it's up and running?!!?
is this just me?
George.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: TomW on May 31, 2016, 03:42:35 PM
Quote from: grgdgreek on May 31, 2016, 12:23:26 PM
O.k. you are not going to believe this....
Just got home an said -"eh let me try connecting" Viola now works.-!!!!
I'm trying to wrap my head around this.
What's goin on???
To answer the above Q.  2096 2097 - full reboot.
I did this before installing the classics.
I have not changed nothing in the past 2days!
Now it's up and running?!!?
is this just me?
George.

I would point out  that the internet is a very complex thing and there are many reasons "stuff" doesn't work as expected. 

Some providers actively filter certain connections. Satellite internet is the worst. They send "fake" acknowledgement (ACK) packets to give the appearance of reduced latency which can cause problems with some protocols. Similar things can happen with wireless connections, as well.

Anyway, I would submit that intermittent erratic behaviour could be your internal network and / or router or the internet  itself.

Even a "fast" connection can experience high latency (essentially slow response time) which can be a problem for some types of connections.


Bottom line is it is probably beyond your or Midnite's control if that makes sense.

Probably not what you want to hear.

Tom
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: grgdgreek on May 31, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
Makes sense. :-)
I happy it's working.-have a trip planned and like to keep an eye on things while away.
I must say a very warm thank you for everyone's help:-) and time!! :-)
If there was more people in this world like the people in this forum things would go a lot smoother.
jmho,

George.:-)
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on July 13, 2018, 07:57:50 PM
Just a quick note to say that

XPLORNET which uses a HUGHES Modem DOES NOT work for connecting to MM2...

         BUT

I now have Net connection via a small local ISP, (using a small wireless broadband system tapped into the Fiber Optic cable),   that gives you your own FIXED IP Address and I just signed in and there is a month of data now viewable...!!!
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: chesuncook1 on October 01, 2018, 06:43:48 AM
Hi Everyone, I have had a classic 150 running flawlessly for years now. I am not computer savvy and don't understand most of what I read here. I have had Hughes net gen 4 internet for years also. What I don't understand is why year after year, MidNite has not come up with a simple solution to view info like I can with the dash board when on the local network. I am disappointed with MidNite over this. Years ago I bought a $100 dlink pan and tilt camera. I had it set up in minutes and have been viewing remotely for years without a problem. Could someone please give me some insight as to what I am missing here. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on October 01, 2018, 01:12:15 PM
Quote from: chesuncook1 on October 01, 2018, 06:43:48 AM
Hi Everyone, I have had a classic 150 running flawlessly for years now. I am not computer savvy and don't understand most of what I read here. I have had Hughes net gen 4 internet for years also. What I don't understand is why year after year, MidNite has not come up with a simple solution to view info like I can with the dash board when on the local network. I am disappointed with MidNite over this. Years ago I bought a $100 dlink pan and tilt camera. I had it set up in minutes and have been viewing remotely for years without a problem. Could someone please give me some insight as to what I am missing here. Thank you very much.
Are you saying you have Local Status app running okay to view Classic data ( and change settings ) but now you also want to set it up for MyMidnite ?  Have you followed all the steps to set up MyMidnite - opened an account,  entered your Classic serial number , etc  like it says in the instructions?  There is one place on the Classic where you need to enable the web access and don't remember if that is on by default or not .  If you have done all that are you saying you can't see your MyMidnite data on MyMidnite site ?
Hard to help because I am not sure what you have tried so far .

Here are some troubleshooting help from Midnite page ( note number 4)

"Frequently Asked Questions
All Categories » CLASSIC CHARGE CONTROLLER - Features and Programming
CLASSIC - WHY MY CLASSIC DOES NOT SEND DATA TO MYMIDNITE
1) You changed the MM:0.0.0.0 setting in the Classic thinking this is SECONDARY DNS, it is NOT.
MM: is an IP address that is used to send the data from the Classic when "WEB ENABLED" is set. This is used when a private or BETA MyMidnite server is setup on this IP address. The Classic will IGNORE the IP obtained with DNS for "WWW.MYMIDNITE.COM" and use the MM: Setting if it is not "0.0.0.0". In the Local App this setting is called "DNS OVER RIDE".

2) You don't have a good connection to the Internet.

3) You made changes to the Classic's NETWORK settings in the "NET" menu, saved them but failed to POWER-CYCLE the Classic to get these NEW settings activated.

4) You are using some satellite Internet service such as HughsNet. Customers have report problems with this and MyMidnite due to packet compression technologies. Disabling compression may allow the Classic to send data successfully.

5) Firmware is too old."

Larry
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: KyleM on October 01, 2018, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: chesuncook1 on October 01, 2018, 06:43:48 AM
Hi Everyone, I have had a classic 150 running flawlessly for years now. I am not computer savvy and don't understand most of what I read here. I have had Hughes net gen 4 internet for years also. What I don't understand is why year after year, MidNite has not come up with a simple solution to view info like I can with the dash board when on the local network. I am disappointed with MidNite over this. Years ago I bought a $100 dlink pan and tilt camera. I had it set up in minutes and have been viewing remotely for years without a problem. Could someone please give me some insight as to what I am missing here. Thank you very much.


You can always set up remote desktop on your local machine. Once that is done you can use the Local App from any location that you have remote desktop configured for.
Best of both worlds
-Kyle
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on October 02, 2018, 04:18:40 PM
Word to the Uninitiated:  Unless you have a designated IP addressed (fixed) and are subscribed to one of their FASTEST SPEED offerings, save yourself a lot of headaches and puzzlement and don't even start !!! the lag time on satellite is not compatible with the more modern speeds we are all expecting...
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: chesuncook1 on October 03, 2018, 07:13:51 AM
Quote from: ClassicCrazy on October 01, 2018, 01:12:15 PM
Quote from: chesuncook1 on October 01, 2018, 06:43:48 AM
Hi Everyone, I have had a classic 150 running flawlessly for years now. I am not computer savvy and don't understand most of what I read here. I have had Hughes net gen 4 internet for years also. What I don't understand is why year after year, MidNite has not come up with a simple solution to view info like I can with the dash board when on the local network. I am disappointed with MidNite over this. Years ago I bought a $100 dlink pan and tilt camera. I had it set up in minutes and have been viewing remotely for years without a problem. Could someone please give me some insight as to what I am missing here. Thank you very much.
Are you saying you have Local Status app running okay to view Classic data ( and change settings ) but now you also want to set it up for MyMidnite ?  Have you followed all the steps to set up MyMidnite - opened an account,  entered your Classic serial number , etc  like it says in the instructions?  There is one place on the Classic where you need to enable the web access and don't remember if that is on by default or not .  If you have done all that are you saying you can't see your MyMidnite data on MyMidnite site ?
Hard to help because I am not sure what you have tried so far .

Here are some troubleshooting help from Midnite page ( note number 4)

"Frequently Asked Questions
All Categories » CLASSIC CHARGE CONTROLLER - Features and Programming
CLASSIC - WHY MY CLASSIC DOES NOT SEND DATA TO MYMIDNITE
1) You changed the MM:0.0.0.0 setting in the Classic thinking this is SECONDARY DNS, it is NOT.
MM: is an IP address that is used to send the data from the Classic when "WEB ENABLED" is set. This is used when a private or BETA MyMidnite server is setup on this IP address. The Classic will IGNORE the IP obtained with DNS for "WWW.MYMIDNITE.COM" and use the MM: Setting if it is not "0.0.0.0". In the Local App this setting is called "DNS OVER RIDE".

2) You don't have a good connection to the Internet.

3) You made changes to the Classic's NETWORK settings in the "NET" menu, saved them but failed to POWER-CYCLE the Classic to get these NEW settings activated.

4) You are using some satellite Internet service such as HughsNet. Customers have report problems with this and MyMidnite due to packet compression technologies. Disabling compression may allow the Classic to send data successfully.

5) Firmware is too old."

Larry

Hi Larry, thank you for responding. Yes, the local app works fine and I have an account all set up on mymidnite2 with all of the classics info. I will check to make sure I have enabled web access. No info has ever shown up on MM but it has been a while since I tried. It is now telling me to update my firmware are which I will do when back at camp on Oct. 15th for a week. I spend a week per month at camp from spring to fall.

1. If I understand correctly, my DNS override should remain all hero's. I will check.

2. My gen 4 Hughes net works well. We Vidio chat on Facebook, use our cell phones to make Wi-Fi calls, etc without issue.

3. I haven't made any changes since I set it up years ago but it is possible that I didn't power cycle the classic back then. I will try that after the firmware update.

4. I will try disabling packet compression after trying the new firmware.

5. Firmware is now old and it says it needs updating. That will be the first thing I try.

Thanks again Larry, I will report back once I have tried all the above.

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: chesuncook1 on October 03, 2018, 07:15:20 AM
Sorry, I didn't post that right. My message is in the quote.
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: chesuncook1 on October 03, 2018, 07:26:31 AM
Quote from: KyleM on October 01, 2018, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: chesuncook1 on October 01, 2018, 06:43:48 AM
Hi Everyone, I have had a classic 150 running flawlessly for years now. I am not computer savvy and don't understand most of what I read here. I have had Hughes net gen 4 internet for years also. What I don't understand is why year after year, MidNite has not come up with a simple solution to view info like I can with the dash board when on the local network. I am disappointed with MidNite over this. Years ago I bought a $100 dlink pan and tilt camera. I had it set up in minutes and have been viewing remotely for years without a problem. Could someone please give me some insight as to what I am missing here. Thank you very much.


You can always set up remote desktop on your local machine. Once that is done you can use the Local App from any location that you have remote desktop configured for.
Best of both worlds
-Kyle
Hi Kyle, thank you. I do have an older laptop I could leave there. I will try Larry's ideas first and if I still have no luck, I could try the remote desk top thing.

Scott
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: chesuncook1 on October 03, 2018, 07:35:16 AM
Quote from: Westbranch on October 02, 2018, 04:18:40 PM
Word to the Uninitiated:  Unless you have a designated IP addressed (fixed) and are subscribed to one of their FASTEST SPEED offerings, save yourself a lot of headaches and puzzlement and don't even start !!! the lag time on satellite is not compatible with the more modern speeds we are all expecting...
Hi Westbranch, I know satellite is not great internet but the cheap camera works fine and it's uploading Vidio and sound. Hopefully something above will work. I only want to view data, I don't want to change anything. I leave a refrigerator running all summer and I just wonder how it does during a rainy time. It's never shut down but I would like to know how low my batteries get sometimes. My camp is 6 hrs. away.

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: Westbranch on October 03, 2018, 11:59:59 AM
Good to know you have a faster one than I got.  We now have a 'local' land based system of 6  towers covering 4 ' communities ( valleys) now and it ties into a fiber optic cable.  Unlimited down loads but we stuck with the slowest package as we too use our smart phone for Voip.  What really swayed me was the 'fixed IP address' was FREE.  The sat guys wanted $10 / month for that feature...
right now I am having a similar issue with charging vs Fridge consumption.

Do you have a small server on site to run the web cam or is the the PVR that transmits? Make and model of Cam ++?
Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: ClassicCrazy on October 03, 2018, 02:24:08 PM
Quote from: Westbranch on October 03, 2018, 11:59:59 AM
Good to know you have a faster one than I got.  We now have a 'local' land based system of 6  towers covering 4 ' communities ( valleys) now and it ties into a fiber optic cable.  Unlimited down loads but we stuck with the slowest package as we too use our smart phone for Voip.  What really swayed me was the 'fixed IP address' was FREE.  The sat guys wanted $10 / month for that feature...
right now I am having a similar issue with charging vs Fridge consumption.

Do you have a small server on site to run the web cam or is the the PVR that transmits? Make and model of Cam ++?

Check this out Westbranch - I bought the Wyzecam  , installed the opensource software on computer , and it works but I have not gone the next step to figure out how to stream it or anything else. There is a small plastic enclosure available  that slides over it to make it waterproof - I may get one of those sometime so I can put it outside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JeMudwlOzM&t=11s

Larry

Title: Re: My MidNite ver3
Post by: chesuncook1 on October 05, 2018, 05:47:01 AM
Quote from: Westbranch on October 03, 2018, 11:59:59 AM
Good to know you have a faster one than I got.  We now have a 'local' land based system of 6  towers covering 4 ' communities ( valleys) now and it ties into a fiber optic cable.  Unlimited down loads but we stuck with the slowest package as we too use our smart phone for Voip.  What really swayed me was the 'fixed IP address' was FREE.  The sat guys wanted $10 / month for that feature...
right now I am having a similar issue with charging vs Fridge consumption.

Do you have a small server on site to run the web cam or is the the PVR that transmits? Make and model of Cam ++?

Hi Westbranch,
The camera we have is a Dlink DCS-5222LB1, got it at an office supple place (Staples). Plugged it in, followed the set up wizard, worked great. No server, static IP  or anything like that. It just figured out my Hughes net settings and connected. It's been working for years now. It's outside but is an inside camera. I built a bird house type of box to put it in to protect from the weather.
Scott