Transformers, balancing

Started by mike90045, April 05, 2011, 10:57:57 AM

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mike90045

So, I'm still looking for a 240V 10KVA balancing transformer.  (auto-transformer)  I know Trace used to have one, and Outback has a small one.  But who wants an E I core transformer, with a cooling fan (smells like losses to me) when there is technology for toroid transformers.  I've found some tiny ones, but nothing as large or efficient as I want.   Has Midnight looked into offering these ??  Anyone have any sources ?
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Classic 200| 2Kw PV, 160Voc | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph )| Listeroid 6/1, st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | midnight ePanel & 4 SPDs | 48V, 800A NiFe battery bank | MS-TS-MPPT60 w/3Kw PV

tallgirl

Mike,

The insertion loss for an X240 is supposedly on the order of 20 watts.  My recollection of your system is that's a few minutes a day worth of PV production.  Better quality fans have power consumptions that are likewise in the range of "noise".

mike90045

Well, I don't know what the fan will consume, where it's on / off points are set.  Since no mention is made of the outback transformer efficiency, I'll have to guess it's average, about 94% idle, and 90% loaded.  Summertime, I've got plenty of light and power, but winter, it gets much, much tighter. 

It's the odd, unbalanced loads, like the vacuum cleaner and then switching on the garbage disposal, that may load one side of the inverter, and glitch it.  In a conventional house, I don't worry much, it all generally averages out, but off grid, it's much more important. (to not have to go out to the shop to reset the inverter at night or in the rain.)

Still looking ...
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Classic 200| 2Kw PV, 160Voc | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph )| Listeroid 6/1, st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | midnight ePanel & 4 SPDs | 48V, 800A NiFe battery bank | MS-TS-MPPT60 w/3Kw PV

boB



Those transformers can have losses (dissipate) of around 150 to 300 Watts  depending on how the are used and how much you are putting through them.

They will have lower losses when used for balancing than for isolation.

boB

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