Is there a list of interface utilities/apps?

Started by Onlooker, September 02, 2014, 11:14:32 AM

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Onlooker

I don't seem to like AdobeAir and GUI for basic monitoring. I see some utilities and scripts out there(That generally didn't work(for *me*) except modbus polling util, raw data).  To run AdobeAir in a minimal VM with localapp, my laptop consumes 5 Watts more power. Not really that efficient to leave running.

I was wondering if there is a list available(and if not, maybe make one) of interface options/software?



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Personally I am looking for a low CPU, text based monitoring program for Android(v2.3.x) and or Win32/XP SP2(NO .NET, Air,JAva... )

You know, one that on loading say MidniteMon.exe IP:port would display a refreshing text screen or line:
KWH: ###  BVolt: ##.## Status: (BULK/FLOAT/ABSORB(or just # that represents) and so on for a screen full of useful quick current information.

zoneblue

There are two android apps, one by midnite and one by a guy here. For linux theres lots of options. Few appear to be developing for windows , but you should certainly give this a go. http://www.n1gnn.com/StatusMonitor/StatusMonitor.html
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Onlooker

Quote from: zoneblue on September 02, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
There are two android apps, one by midnite and one by a guy here. For linux theres lots of options. Few appear to be developing for windows , but you should certainly give this a go. http://www.n1gnn.com/StatusMonitor/StatusMonitor.html

Don't think I recall the StatusMonitor(THanks), in my case, to bad it requires .net framework. Making native code sure sees unpopular these days.  I suppose that's why I'm interested in a maintained list, so I can check it to see if a workable util is available 'yet'.   The Midnite Solar Inc made android app works on my older-superior(imo) Android 2.3.x devices but of course AdobeAir is a terrible resource hog. 

zoneblue

Having written a liitle C, i get an inkling why people might be inclined to choose frameworks.

Well you know where that leaves you doenst it. Fill the void, write the program yourself. Um.. And the list of software...?!

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boB


I believe that the smallest, lowest power device for monitoring may be something like
the Raspberri Pi or Beagle Bone, IF they draw less than 5 watts...  I'm not sure what
they draw ?  But it's gotta be better than leaving a PC or laptop running all the time.

Adobe Air is a hog but at the time, it was cross platform, well supported etc to
try and satisfy almost all users as well as eventually being able to be run on
a cell phone or pad of some sort.

Not the best probably anymore but for PC and Mac, it still works.

I'd like to see the black-box project or something on one of those small-ish
Linux boards be used for reading and writing and coordinating between
lots of different manufacturers' R.E. products.  Seems almost ideal with the
right application code.

boB
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Onlooker

Quote from: zoneblue on September 05, 2014, 04:39:32 PM
Having written a liitle C, i get an inkling why people might be inclined to choose frameworks.

Well you know where that leaves you doesn't it. Fill the void, write the program yourself. Um.. And the list of software...?!

Yeah, looks like it might be the only way. Although I don't have enough motivation to do the work, purchase the program perhaps.  Still I would think someone at midnite solar inc. could throw a simple win32 reader together in short order; Maybe they even have already in-house somewhere.

I'll have to throw an amp meter on the android running air ,see how bad it is vs the laptop; On the Android it's somewhat less about power than about memory usage; Normally my Droid2g runs Samba file server, email(k9 mail), irc, skype,ttorrent, and Opera Mobile v12(security cam script) simultaneously, it does so much and runs on(5V) 0.21Amp to 0.56Amps depending on usage(Brightness, watching movie instead of Opera etc).
Throw open AdobeAir and Localapp and Android starts forcing closed the other apps.

RaspberriPi and other micro Linux boards are good for their interfaces, but compared to the power(& Consumption) of a $10-$20 used old Android Phone they are quite lacking(IMO), the trick would be finding a way to trip relays etc with a Motorola Droid1-Droid2($5-$15ea these days, 8gb, 1ghz, screens, keyboard, MicroSD, camera, gps, wifi, and all that great stuff )

Westbranch

why not just buy an old D2 and run it dedicated to monitor your Classic or KID?
If they are that cheap buy one for each machine...
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Onlooker

Quote from: Westbranch on September 05, 2014, 11:18:20 PM
why not just buy an old D2 and run it dedicated to monitor your Classic or KID?
If they are that cheap buy one for each machine...

I'm trying to be a power miser, but otherwise one certainly could.. Actually I think  droid2/3s might take less power than the actual Classic interface screen(I'm running 150 Lite).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-16-Motorola-Droid-1-Black-Verizon-/331308275771
Less than $7 each.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-16-Motorola-Droid-1-Black-Verizon-/331311284023

I've not come across an Android device that is V4 or newer that works the way I need it to, or is as stable as the droid1/2's can eventually be made(alt roms, no google apps). So been thinking of stocking up on the old droids...
Oh*  I'm not SURE AdobeAir and LocalApp run on the droid1's, but it works on the droid2 and 3 fine. Just not dug it out to play with in a while.

zoneblue

Quote from: Onlooker on September 05, 2014, 11:09:36 PM
RaspberriPi and other micro Linux boards are good for their interfaces, but compared to the power(& Consumption) of a $10-$20 used old Android Phone they are quite lacking(IMO)

They lack a screen, but on the up side have ethernet, sata, hdmi, gpio, adc, uart etc. Otherwise hardware is very similar. ARM cortex, ram, sd, power consumption in same ball park.

For anything other than a trivial RE system, a server client approach is required. The phones are an ideal client, for either a permanent display located strategically in the house, or for adhoc use around and about. Then all the phone/tablet needs to run is a web browser.

Quotethe trick would be finding a way to trip relays etc with a Motorola Droid1-Droid2($5-$15ea these days, 8gb, 1ghz, screens, keyboard, MicroSD, camera, gps, wifi, and all that great stuff )

See above. Linux and android are not that far removed. I suggest if you are really interested in all this you check out http://code.google.com/p/theblackboxproject/ The more people get involved the sooner it will happen. Ive written a module for the classic, and will probably get round to writing one for the VFX, but while im unliklely to ever own any other gear in the near future, there is absolutely no reason why modules cant be coded for SMA, Schneider and other brands.

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