FIRMWARE UPDATE PROBLEMS!

Started by Halfcrazy, August 26, 2015, 08:58:26 AM

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crunnells

I'll try to PM boB and Ryan to see if one of them can help figure this out. It's been a problem for over 2 years now, and with the upcoming move to mymidnite2.com I'm going to be out of a way to monitor my system remotely.

This might just be the kick I need to get my BBB-BB (Beagle Bone Black - Black Box) running again. Still would be nice to have some features like SoC, etc. 

Westbranch

did you also get the MicroSoft , dudaah, New Hardware connected when you plugged the USB cable in?
I found  W7 installs have to be exactly as outlined  in  Johns link, full power off, etc
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

mike90045

I resurrected an old XP laptop to get a working USB that didn't need 15 pages of instructions for win 8.1

I did one update about year and half ago, and till I have a good reason to try to brick the classic, I'm not going to try it again. Still too many failure reports to risk a non critical update.
http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar

Classic 200| 2Kw PV, 160Voc | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph )| Listeroid 6/1, st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | midnight ePanel & 4 SPDs | 48V, 800A NiFe battery bank | MS-TS-MPPT60 w/3Kw PV

Resthome

Quote from: mike90045 on January 22, 2016, 10:15:36 PM
I resurrected an old XP laptop to get a working USB that didn't need 15 pages of instructions for win 8.1

I did one update about year and half ago, and till I have a good reason to try to brick the classic, I'm not going to try it again. Still too many failure reports to risk a non critical update.

Hopefully the new updater Midnite is working on will be a lot simpler to use and it appears it does not require special drivers to be installed.

The one good thing about the Classic is I have never heard of anyone bricking one. You can even go back and installed previous version firmware.
John

10 x Kyocera KC140, Classic 150 w/WBJr, Link10 Battery Monitor, 850 AH @ 12v Solar One 2v cells, Xantrex PROwatt SW2000
Off Grid on Houseboat Lake Don Pedro, CA

mike90045

I have a special talent,  I can follow every step, and brick things.  I've a knack for making things misbehave, and even at work, the software guys had me test stuff, in about 20 seconds, they were back to a week of fixes, it really helped make stuff bulletproof for the military and save the embarrassing crash when presenting to the customer.
I can also recover crashed computers, de-scramble hard drives (when SSD's fail, they are goners) and do PC repairs, and have many happy clients.  Must be some magnetic field!
http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar

Classic 200| 2Kw PV, 160Voc | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph )| Listeroid 6/1, st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | midnight ePanel & 4 SPDs | 48V, 800A NiFe battery bank | MS-TS-MPPT60 w/3Kw PV

crunnells

Westbranch: this past Sunday we updated the firmware on my brother-in-laws Classic, using his laptop (the same we were using to try to update mine). It went through flawlessly, like it should. So I definitely think we can take the common denominator (his laptop) out of the equation and suggest that either I have 4 bad USB cables (unlikely; in 20 years I've never seen a bad USB cable that wasn't obviously frayed OR rusty) or there's a problem with my Classic. I'm leaning towards the latter.

Westbranch

#36
with that evidence it certainly appears that there is an issue in the Classic.
Try sending Ryan an email Ryan at Midnitesolar dot com

ADD:  just looked at Ryan's opening post, did you try turning off any Wifi etc that may be causing noise?
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

Resthome

Quote from: crunnells on January 26, 2016, 04:38:21 PM
Westbranch: this past Sunday we updated the firmware on my brother-in-laws Classic, using his laptop (the same we were using to try to update mine). It went through flawlessly, like it should. So I definitely think we can take the common denominator (his laptop) out of the equation and suggest that either I have 4 bad USB cables (unlikely; in 20 years I've never seen a bad USB cable that wasn't obviously frayed OR rusty) or there's a problem with my Classic. I'm leaning towards the latter.

Well just saw a post from Ryan that said the new W10 updated does not work with other OS without doing some fooling around, so looks like that option is out. Was it the Classic or MNGP update that fails or is your a Lite?  Did boB ever reply? Sound like Ryan has been on travel and is behind on PM so don't know if you heard from him. I'm still curious as to what triggers a bad cable message. Has to be something the code is watching for.
John

10 x Kyocera KC140, Classic 150 w/WBJr, Link10 Battery Monitor, 850 AH @ 12v Solar One 2v cells, Xantrex PROwatt SW2000
Off Grid on Houseboat Lake Don Pedro, CA

CharliVN

#38
My classic 200 is dead this morning.  I download the firmware 2079 upgrade for win10 yesterday, I figured better do the upgrade before sunrise today, go to the garage at 530am, 46 deg F, plug in USB thing go ok after 3-4 times tried, power up with left/right arrow press dwn, system booth up, check the new 2079 is in.  The COM was 3

The next thing tried to upgrade the mngp, 5 times when it get around 60ish% completed, it hard reboot my laptop, I gave up, my hand is cold, I wait when the sun is up and try it one more time.

All I got at this time the red led, I can not even log in local software because I did not configuration the ip yet.  Help, help, help

Westbranch

For previous updates it is Com 8 not 3.  Did this change for the W 10 updater?
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

CharliVN

When I plug in the usb, system power up, the software said com 3 connected, I did the controller ok, the mngp that is hang up, I m going to get my other laptop out there to see if I can get it going, I will let your guys know, both of my laptop are win10

cpttom

Howdy,

So It's been 3 years since I last updated the Firmware on my Classic 150.  3 years ago I had a heck of a time updating and since what I had wasn't broke I haven' wanted to touch the Firmware again. Well, now there is the mymidnite.com update that needs the latest Firmware and I bought a Wiz-bang, so I have to update the Classic. Should of been fun...ah no. 

I used Windows 10 and  Rev 2079 For windows 10 Firmware update.  Everything went smoothly for the Classic firmware update, did the Factory Reset, answered all the questions.  Then I upgraded the MNGP remote.  Firmware loaded 100 percent only the MNGP was now Blank!  Tried to do a factory reset. Nope. nothing. 

So right at this moment I am dead in the water.  Anyone got ideas? Thanks!  --CPT Tom
System: 1344 Watt PV Array (2x3 Sharp 224 Watt ND224UC9BX panels) | Midnite Classic 150 w/WBjr| Schneider Electric Conext SW 2524 Inverter, with SCP and Combox| 2x4 6v 235AH Duracell EGC2 Batteries @ 24V, 470 AH|  7 KW propane generator

Westbranch

#42
Did you try looking at the Classic with the Local App to see if you can get anything out?

I haven't used W10 yet for upgrade, do you still get the "finished' message in a command box after each upgrade is 100%?
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

Resthome

Quote from: Westbranch on January 31, 2016, 08:24:47 PM
Did you try looking at the Classic with the Local App to see if you can get anything out?

I haven't used W10 yet for upgrade, do you still get the "finished' message in a command box after each upgrade is 100%?

Good point WB. The old installer took almost 2 additional minutes to complete after it said 100%.  I'm like you and haven't tried the W10 uploaded yet because I want to have a few days to visit before attempting it. And a Win 8.1 laptop as a backup. 
John

10 x Kyocera KC140, Classic 150 w/WBJr, Link10 Battery Monitor, 850 AH @ 12v Solar One 2v cells, Xantrex PROwatt SW2000
Off Grid on Houseboat Lake Don Pedro, CA

cpttom

Hi Westbranch,

Nope, I can't see the Classic with the Local App.  :( 

After the update it there is a message that I think says "Update 100% Complete" or words to that effect.  I even tried updating again.  Still a blank screen.

Quote from: Westbranch on January 31, 2016, 08:24:47 PM
Did you try looking at the Classic with the Local App to see if you can get anything out?

I haven't used W10 yet for upgrade, do you still get the "finished' message in a command box after each upgrade is 100%?
System: 1344 Watt PV Array (2x3 Sharp 224 Watt ND224UC9BX panels) | Midnite Classic 150 w/WBjr| Schneider Electric Conext SW 2524 Inverter, with SCP and Combox| 2x4 6v 235AH Duracell EGC2 Batteries @ 24V, 470 AH|  7 KW propane generator