Move over solar, you've got competition...

Started by Westbranch, March 12, 2017, 12:13:22 PM

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Westbranch

visions of the emergency wind-up radio of old...  ;)

https://www.hand.energy/


ADD:  the site is verrrry sloooow to load, needs a minute or more to show all the bits of info
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

TomW

Curious device.

I couldn't get some pages to work so never saw "how" it works or the electrical specs just that it is great and charges "devices". ::)

The idea of such a device is sound. Outlets to recharge are not found everywhere so it would be nice to keep around on a camping trip, bike trip or other remote activity.

Pretty sure it won't run my AC,  however, so I will be keeping the panels awhile yet.

Thanks for the share!

Tom
Do NOT mistake me for any kind of "expert".

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24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

Westbranch

Tom, note the additional comment above, I found it so slow I almost closed one page as it was coming in...
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

TomW

Quote from: Westbranch on March 12, 2017, 01:19:42 PM
Tom, note the additional comment above, I found it so slow I almost closed one page as it was coming in...

Too many graphics too little information. Typical of vaporware. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull$hip. Looks like they don't have any to actually sell yet but you can "preorder" . They made sure that page arrived first.

Still a neat idea for those who need to be connected with no access to a juice bush.

Still no clue how you create the energy input? Looks like you just wobble your wrist and "something" turns at 5KRPM.

Would love to try one. Maybe it will become a viable product one day!

Tom

Do NOT mistake me for any kind of "expert".

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24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

mike90045

I doubt it gets past vaporware
World Class Bicyclists get what 75W power generation on a bicycle generator .  That's a pair of legs and torso all working.  To harvest much energy from some wrist action, is doubtful.  I guess at 2 hrs for 1 bar of battery charge on a phone
http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar

Classic 200| 2Kw PV, 160Voc | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph )| Listeroid 6/1, st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | midnight ePanel & 4 SPDs | 48V, 800A NiFe battery bank | MS-TS-MPPT60 w/3Kw PV

ClassicCrazy

Quote from: mike90045 on March 12, 2017, 09:40:44 PM
I doubt it gets past vaporware
World Class Bicyclists get what 75W power generation on a bicycle generator .  That's a pair of legs and torso all working.  To harvest much energy from some wrist action, is doubtful.  I guess at 2 hrs for 1 bar of battery charge on a phone

Mike ,
World Class bicyclists make a lot more energy than that. I was zipping down the road at 25mph on my ebike - I know it was taking 400 to 600 watts out of my battery. And there was a guy who passed me by peddling .  Anyway I think if you were standing up pedding hard with lot of effort like going up hill that would be around 200 watt generation . 

Anyway not many passed my ebike at 27 mph but there were a few guys who could really fly on a bike.

But yeah that wrist genertator is bogus !

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

ClassicCrazy

Here are the specs from their webpage

"To charge the batteries of HandEnergy you need to spin it for 40-60 minutes. It's not that long and hard and it trains your hands. The speed of charging a smartphone or other device from HandEnergy is the same as from a socket or. If you spin HandEnergy and charge a smartphone directly it will take 30% more time due to lower current."


"What is the voltage and current of HandEnergy?

HandEnergy generates 0,8 A and 5 V to charge built-in battery. For further charging your devices it's transformed to regular 1A and 5V."


So yeah I want to see someone twist their wrist around like that for one hour  - ouch ! And I bet to get the full 0.8 amp out of it  you have to really wing it around a lot more than they are showing. Of course if the battery in it is low it is going to take a lot more force to charge it than if the battery is full.

What a bogus product and claims ! Any one of those small fold up solar panels would out perform that thing.

But maybe if you played a game of baseball with that thing it would charge up the battery - wonder how it holds up to getting batted around !

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

CDN-VT

Quote from: Westbranch on March 12, 2017, 12:13:22 PM
visions of the emergency wind-up radio of old...  ;)

https://www.hand.energy/


ADD:  the site is verrrry sloooow to load, needs a minute or more to show all the bits of info

Lots of Robos & searches is why it is slow !
Nada & funny .WestB , your caught wiggling now-A-daz & then your calling home for a ride !
40-60 Mins !!! and thats if your fit !


Sorry I see a funny in this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF4OlKKrFfI

Shake weights

VT
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

mike90045

human power
Cycle power

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_power#Available_power
A trained cyclist can produce about 400 watts of mechanical power for an hour or more, but adults of good average fitness average between 50 and 150 watts for an hour of vigorous exercise. A healthy well-fed laborer over the course of an 8-hour work shift can sustain an average output of about 75 watts.

http://mapawatt.com/2009/07/19/bicycle-power-how-many-watts-can-you-produce

The current record holder for the Hour Record is Ondrej Sosenka and the website BikeCult.com has an estimate of his average wattage during his Hour Record at 430 Watts!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacCready_Gossamer_Albatross    2.75hr flight
To maintain the craft in the air it was designed with very long tapering wings (high aspect ratio), like those of a glider, allowing the flight to be undertaken with a minimum of power. In still air the required power was of the order of 300 W (0.40 hp), though even mild turbulence made this figure rise rapidly.
http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar

Classic 200| 2Kw PV, 160Voc | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph )| Listeroid 6/1, st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | midnight ePanel & 4 SPDs | 48V, 800A NiFe battery bank | MS-TS-MPPT60 w/3Kw PV

ClassicCrazy

Those figures make sense Mike.
The reason the guy who passed me peddling with his 300 to 400 watts of leg power is probably because he didn't have the extra weight of batteries and hub motor that I was hauling - and the extra wind load too . But if I had gone with 72v of batteries instead of 48v I had there is no way he would have passed me by ! But that is too fast for a bike on a busy city road .

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

CDN-VT

#10


450 watts is a very well young MAN who is fit PLUS !!
We had a few Gyro toys that were wrist driven !!
YA right , how to hurt yourself !!
Wrist was sore for days after playing
Glad this in Rag chew
VT
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

russ_drinkwater

#11
LMFAO CDN you are a hoot!
But wait there is still more!
I might send that link to my old stepmum she will get a laugh from that one. :o ;D
Standalone. 20 Hyundai x 220 watts panels, 2 x classic 150's, Latronics 24 volt 3kw inverter, Whiz bang Jnr, 12 Rolls surrete  4KS 25P  batteries and WBJ.
Grid tie feed-in, 12.5 kw in 3 arrays generating 50 kws per day average. Solar river grid tie inverters

CDN-VT

See U got it , Many don't ..
Life is a adventure & enjoy all jokes & side smiles !!

VT

But wait there is still more!
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels