Not exactly a FW update problem or is it?

Started by Westbranch, March 31, 2017, 11:52:54 PM

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Westbranch

because of comments made below I have added some wording in RED for more clarity...


I loaded FW 2126 using USB cable on Wednesday afternoon. What a breeze, smooth as clock work... ;) PS I had used this laptop for a previous update so Port 8 eas working as it should...

This after having to shut down my Anti-virus (AVG), even though I was off line,  due to AVG trying to quarantine the MN FW Loader.EXE...  (*%#@$&()*%$) and for the next 2 days I at startup and after, there was a persistently appearing Message from AVG that  XYZ. EXE in the Classic Folder was a Virus

Manually Reset all settings via MNGP as previously entered, then went upstairs to the local App to double check....  every thing was as it should be, other than Battery size that was at the default of 400Ah... No problem, change and save and recheck. A  OK!

Next I got one of those annoying messages that my connection was not safe...

Reason why? I do not advertise my WIFI modem's name so that kills about 95% of hackers, even if they want to travel 200+ miles into the Chilcotin for a net connection...  well the neighbours grandson might piggyback on my band width... when he is there...

Then I got 3 more of those messages in a row >:(...  Oh ALL RIGHT! I'll fix it!....  so I added a P/W  and selected a level of encryption... but it was now going to advertise my NAME... ???

NOW The Troubles Start..

First off was that my W7 laptop would NOT connect to the modem, { The TAb and W8 Surface did connected, didn't try the XP box} ..  finally went back to the way it was and all 3 CPU's ( Tab, W7, W8.1RT ) would connect to the NET...

Then the world went dark ...  My Samsung Tab4, running Grahams Android App,  showed the same NAME for the Classic  on the screen, but no data, Same on the W7,... OMG ...,  now what?  The Local App error message was ''Unable to Connect''.

I took the W7 down to the Classic again and plugged in the CAT 5 wire, opened L App, tried to connect to Classic's IP, 'Unable to Connect'
HMMM... W7 problem??? 
So today (next morning) I took the old XP laptop and plugged it in to the Classic ...  opened the Local App, 'Unable to Connect'  ....   ARGH!!..... This box was used earlier last year, or longer ago, to do FW upgrades and just sits there ''in case''...

I have no ideas as to what happened... 

Could it be a hiccup in the FW ?

I did notice yesterday that the Inverter did not like the upper charge limit of 29.2V and gave a Hi Voltage , RED light on its control panel...  It has been yellow but not Red... Inverter was/is still running, all the time.. except for the 2 power off/on's in the FW upgrade process. 

I lowered the Max V to 29.0V  from 29.2V just before leaving, I am thinking that a double check of the BattV and ClassicV is in order...


Should I do  a reload of FW2126?  :-\  Not much else I can do...

KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

Resthome

#1
Just as a heads up. I posted about the anti- virus flagging the loader file. Look for it else where. It was shot down by boB as he pointed out MS Defender did not flag it. I post back that it did. I agree that it is most likely a false positive. I had to exclude it from being scanned and retrieve it from quarantine. Believe it also flagged the MN web site as being not trusted because of that file.

http://midniteftp.com/forum/index.php?topic=3648.msg35230#msg35230

A week ago. I used the Win 10 program loader on my Win 10 laptop to load FW 2126. First time using the loader on Win 10 to load the MNGP.  Last update had no changes to the MNGP so didn't update it. Both updates went without a hitch.

Don't think you have a problem with the firmware. But would not be surprised if youranti-virus is flagging things or the Local network/firewall is acting up. I would remove the exe file from the firmware directory you used and delete it from your machine. Reset you router and reboot it. Check the Classic IP on the MNGP and make sure the LA is using same IP.  As a last resort reboot Classic.  If you have ARST on it may correct it self tonight.

Heading to lake early in morning. Most likely no internet for the next week.
John

10 x Kyocera KC140, Classic 150 w/WBJr, Link10 Battery Monitor, 850 AH @ 12v Solar One 2v cells, Xantrex PROwatt SW2000
Off Grid on Houseboat Lake Don Pedro, CA

ClassicCrazy

Westbranch 
I don't get it - you plugged our wndows7 computer into the Classic to program it ? Or to use the Local Status app ?
The Classic programming cable plugged into the computer needs to show up as a port - I think it shows up as port 8 or it won't work. So  use Device Manger and see what port the Classic is assigned to .
Otherwise don't you need to plug the Classic into a router via network cable and then use program like Local Status app to connect to it ? And then you can use Classic menu to set it to either DHCP or a static IP .
I always backup all the Classic settings using the Local Status app and then can easily restore them after firmware update wiping by uploading from Local Status app exactly what was in there before.
Maybe I don't follow what you are saying got messed up .

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

CDN-VT

I have a stand alone hard drive ( I run a Panasonic CF52) Shuttle HD's that let me surf here , open internet AV on  , 3rd  HD is priority locked to sat link to Major manufacture on it proprietary system & NO AV software , my Porn HD has  AV with Male-ware and all comdoms needed , My solar drive is W7 and it has all firmware's from Midnight , Outback & the rest .
I get all Videos & anything to get , NO AV or malware , just to do all solar updates & stores all the settings files & ready to reload .

If your serious about this in the real world of forgetting . 
VT
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

Resthome

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on April 01, 2017, 12:46:07 AM

Otherwise don't you need to plug the Classic into a router via network cable and then use program like Local Status app to connect to it ? And then you can use Classic menu to set it to either DHCP or a static IP .


Actually most newer laptops you can plug the Ethernet cable from the Classic directly into the laptop and run the LA. The IPs have to be setup but it does work.
John

10 x Kyocera KC140, Classic 150 w/WBJr, Link10 Battery Monitor, 850 AH @ 12v Solar One 2v cells, Xantrex PROwatt SW2000
Off Grid on Houseboat Lake Don Pedro, CA

Westbranch

Thanks guys.

John your last post made me think about the XP's IP address, will have to check but I have used it to connect while standing beside the Classic so expected it to chug along but  ??

Also your first post re firewall etc..  I think I should remove all AV, Firewall programming etc and move the Classic FW etc via 'USB stick'  once downloaded on the W7 box. have to leave it as a ZIP file first.

Larry I added some more words to my first post to clarify. Yes, Port 8.

The new installer works  perfectly, or so it seems... a bit slower than before it seemed,  but  no need to wait after 'completion' to let it clear its brain or ??

I was moving the W7 around from up by the router to down by the Classic...  sorry for any confusion, posted after a 3 hr drive home and getting the wife's chest infection, I think...  :(

VT - where did you find out about  those armoured (?) latops?  sounds like  a good way to go
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

CDN-VT

We use them for our proprietary work . I have an old CF29 that's dirty but still works , No bullet holes , It's yours if you would like it . We were to update them to CF53 , but since the drives don't swap in that model , I passed . Water resistant, road rash somewhat ,bulletproof  (not proof of any ) . I have killed two units , one sank & one left the cars roof @ hwy speeds .

VT
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

Westbranch

one left the cars roof @ hwy speeds .


Like the Toshiba TV advert where it 'survives' falling from the car roof at the hotel or ?... ;)
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

CDN-VT

Nope
I was just dumb & forgot that I had used it & sent info etc, It got busy & I forgot it was up there , NOW I only use it on the hood of the car / work unit & switched to a Station Wagon .No worries , I know it blew apart  as in lots of bits in the mirror & cars trying to dodge .Password on Boot up & also into what system to load .

Dumb & cost me down time plus a few K.

Sent info
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

Westbranch

I have subsequently  tried 2 reloads and 4 VMM's with no change so far...

I guess I will have to retreat to the last version of FW bwfore 2126...

Does anyone have the address for the previous versions of FW???

Thanks
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

ClassicCrazy

Quote from: Westbranch on April 14, 2017, 03:27:41 PM
I have subsequently  tried 2 reloads and 4 VMM's with no change so far...

I guess I will have to retreat to the last version of FW bwfore 2126...

Does anyone have the address for the previous versions of FW???

Thanks

What is new firmware  not doing ? Which previous firmware do you want ?

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

Westbranch

I did a FW upgrade to 2126  and things started out fine and the the Classic  went 'dark' as the  expression goes... the comms to the LApp and Grahams Android App and the MN Android app  were just gone.  I was looking at the forum and had the TAB monitoring the Classic....  and suddenly there was a crash..???   I first thought it migt be the bridge, so I reset itto factory and now I can see it on my list of devces to connect to but the Classic does not seem to  be  sendig so I will back up and try the old version first...
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

CDN-VT

Version required ?
I use one hard drive  for all solar.
I get a system set & balanced .. I leave it , why  keep tweaking / changing ??

VT
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

TomW

#13
Quote from: CDN-VT on April 15, 2017, 12:40:47 AM
Version required ?
I use one hard drive  for all solar.
I get a system set & balanced .. I leave it , why  keep tweaking / changing ??

VT

VT;

exactly.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Of course some folks want features not installed on units that sat in the supply chain for awhile.

Be nice if resellers would update firmware to current factory versions before shipping.


Our SMA inverter has an available firmware upgrade that supposedly fixes communication issues but I am NOT installing it mostly due to their absolute lack of response to my requests for customer support after the sale from them. Not taking the chance of bricking it when a company has demonstrated such poor customer support.

Midnite does not seem to suffer that support malady.

Bottom line is folks should not just assume a firmware upgrade will make anything "better". Or be seamless. Too many variables doing essentially a brain transplant on software driven hardware.  All my Midnite upgrades were successful but it has been awhile since I had any Midnite gear online.

Just my opinion(s)

Tom
Do NOT mistake me for any kind of "expert".

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

Westbranch

Tom, VT, yes I may have been foolish but  I wanted to see if the changes to the FW may have 'finally' be ablr to connect to MM2....  I have not been able to get to MM2 since I tried to move over from MM1....

As you see I now have NO connection with my Classic....????

I got a link from Larry to boB's archive of the recent FW versions,  I am going back to FW2096 shortly...

Will advise, fingers crossed...
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come