Thinking of getting an Inverter System, Pre Wired - Off Grid. Any suggestions?

Started by Greg Burton, March 25, 2018, 07:08:23 PM

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Greg Burton

If I decide to go the 48v route, how would I wire the 8 - 24v batteries that I will be getting? Thanks!

Matrix

are you batteries 24v each ... or are they 12v or 6v?   I would wire anything you get in series if at all possible as long as the amp hours meet the needs of your loads. 
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REC TwinPeak 2 285W 3S-3P 2565w-STC 1926w-NMOT Array / Classic 150 / Conext SW 4024 Inverter
Trojan L16H-AC 435Ah bank 4S  with 7' of 4/0 cable
24 volt system /  Need 3200Whs Daily
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Greg Burton

Quote from: Matrix on March 28, 2018, 07:42:18 PM
are you batteries 24v each ... or are they 12v or 6v?   I would wire anything you get in series if at all possible as long as the amp hours meet the needs of your loads.

Each battery is 24v and I have a total of eight...Thanks!

Westbranch

bur1196, just to be clear .... 

you have 8 @ 24V LiFePO4 with a BMS for each pack of batteries....

or have I got this wrong?
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

Greg Burton

Quote from: Westbranch on March 28, 2018, 08:53:01 PM
bur1196, just to be clear .... 

you have 8 @ 24V LiFePO4 with a BMS for each pack of batteries....

or have I got this wrong?

Yes...I have eight 24v batteries:

Battery 1 - 24v
Battery 2 - 24v
Battery 3 - 24v
Battery 4 - 24v
Battery 5 - 24v
Battery 6 - 24v
Battery 7 - 24v
Battery 8 - 24v

How easy to wire all eight of these to 48v...

Westbranch

Do they all have an individual Battery Management system...

from https://www.powertechsystems.eu/home/products/battery-management-system-bms/

BMS â€" Battery Management System
Battery-Management-System-Lithium-Ion

Battery-Management-System-Lithium-Ion

A BMS (Battery Management System) is essential in a Lithium-Ion battery system. This device manages a real-time control of each battery cell, communicates with external devices, manages SOC calculation, measures temperature and voltage, etc. (see key features on the right bar). The choice of BMS determines the quality and lifespan of the final battery pack.
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

ClassicCrazy

Quote from: bur1196 on March 28, 2018, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: Westbranch on March 28, 2018, 08:53:01 PM
bur1196, just to be clear .... 

you have 8 @ 24V LiFePO4 with a BMS for each pack of batteries....

or have I got this wrong?

Yes...I have eight 24v batteries:

How easy to wire all eight of these to 48v...

I would check with manufacturer to make sure that 48v setup would be okay for BMS or other controls in those batteries.

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

Greg Burton

Westbranch: Yes each individual battery has bms...

ClassicCrazy: These batteries are perfectly fine for a 48v or more setup...

Westbranch

With the BMS you should be able to set the Classic for 48 V and charge them in parallel... 

There are some 11 threads on the forum about LFP charging. and more on LiFePO4
   
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come