Classic not reporting correct SOC

Started by asdex, July 28, 2018, 08:11:04 PM

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asdex

Hi, I haven't been able to get my classic to report my battery SOC correctly. When it says 100% the batteries can be 1200. I have the up to 1260 now but I wanted to use the Classics SOC to switch a relay when the batteries are fully charged. I have tried adjusting the efficiency but that hasn't helped.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
6 x JA Solar 320w solar panels facing NW, 4 x 300w panels facing North.
12 x 2volt Narada lead carbon batteries (24v 400ah), Classic and WBJr, Epever 50A controller, Outback FX2024 inverter and Mate, Trimetric monitor, Alibaba solar pump.

dgd

The problem is the SOC % reported by the Classic/wbjr combo is at best only a reasonable estimate of the battery actual state of charge.  There are just too many variables involved to depend on a particular SOC reading
I always find it interesting that the SOC jumps to 100% on moving from Absorb to Float despite the last Absorb SOC at less than 95%. Worse if there are several days without reaching Absorb and SOC is in the 85 to 90 range.
Dgd
Classic 250, 150,  20 140w, 6 250w PVs, 2Kw turbine, MN ac Clipper, Epanel/MNdc, Trace SW3024E (1997), Century 1050Ah 24V FLA (1999). Arduino power monitoring and web server.  Off grid since 4/2000
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ClassicCrazy

Quote from: asdex on July 28, 2018, 08:11:04 PM
Hi, I haven't been able to get my classic to report my battery SOC correctly. When it says 100% the batteries can be 1200. I have the up to 1260 now but I wanted to use the Classics SOC to switch a relay when the batteries are fully charged. I have tried adjusting the efficiency but that hasn't helped.
Any ideas?
Thanks,

You may need to tweak the capacity as well as the efficiency . Are you using Whizbang and ending amps to terminate the absorb cycle or just using time ? If your batteries are going to float ( and that makes them go to 100% SOC)  early before the batteries are fully charged according to your hydrometer then you either need to lower the ending amps or set a longer Absorb time ( or make sure the absorb time is not set too short if using ending amps because which ever comes first is what terminates Absorb. )

Larry
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boB

Quote from: asdex on July 28, 2018, 08:11:04 PM
Hi, I haven't been able to get my classic to report my battery SOC correctly. When it says 100% the batteries can be 1200. I have the up to 1260 now but I wanted to use the Classics SOC to switch a relay when the batteries are fully charged. I have tried adjusting the efficiency but that hasn't helped.
Any ideas?
Thanks,

What is the 1200 and 1260 ?  Is this a specific gravity reading ?

boB
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asdex

Yes that's correct. The specific gravity.
I was charging the batteries according to the SOC value on the classis but found it to be well out therefore seriously undercharging the bank.
6 x JA Solar 320w solar panels facing NW, 4 x 300w panels facing North.
12 x 2volt Narada lead carbon batteries (24v 400ah), Classic and WBJr, Epever 50A controller, Outback FX2024 inverter and Mate, Trimetric monitor, Alibaba solar pump.