New AGM battery technology

Started by ClassicCrazy, September 25, 2018, 10:59:50 PM

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ClassicCrazy

Just came across this about East Penn Deka new technology AGM with  ultracapacitors

https://youtu.be/ANyeOMKCELc

Larry
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Matrix

#1
Interesting.  So with the Cap and the BMS would that mean (according to claims) that this bring AGMs up to the level of FLAs?   Or better?

This is an interesting analysis comparison tool ... https://batterytestcentre.com.au/results/ecoult-ultraflex/
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ClassicCrazy

Quote from: Matrix on September 28, 2018, 08:25:26 AM
Interesting.  So with the Cap and the BMS would that mean (according to claims) that this bring AGMs up to the level of FLAs?   Or better?

This is an interesting analysis comparison tool ... https://batterytestcentre.com.au/results/ecoult-ultraflex/

I haven't studied up on these yet.  Did you see anything about the price of them ?
That of course is a determining factor along with performance.
In that video seemed like they had electronics in the battery to log data and would warranty based on that if they didn't give expected performance. That would be a big reassurance along with having well known battery manufacturers like East Penn Deka putting their name behind the product and warranty .

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

Matrix

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on September 28, 2018, 11:29:09 AM
I haven't studied up on these yet.  Did you see anything about the price of them ?
That of course is a determining factor along with performance.
In that video seemed like they had electronics in the battery to log data and would warranty based on that if they didn't give expected performance. That would be a big reassurance along with having well known battery manufacturers like East Penn Deka putting their name behind the product and warranty .

Larry

I could not find a price but just judging from who it appears they have as a target audience,  I doubt it will be in the cost effective range for me.  But it sure seems promising as Li just seems too sketchy yet with the possibility of BMS failures etc.  The last thing i want to do is be home bound because I feel I cannot safely go away for a few day due to the way a set of batteries may or may not charge and if they may burst into an uncontrollable flame.
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My System Install

Westbranch

#4
I have been getting white paper docs,  for a couple of years from Deka Ecoult Interesting concepts.

here is a link to 3 videos , but no sound at this end  for the 3 rd one ... it looks like one of the docs you can down load .IIRC..


ADD: https://www.ecoult.com/technology/ultrabattery this takes you to their web site and docs...
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