RasPi 4 now available !

Started by Steve_S, June 24, 2019, 01:56:51 PM

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Steve_S

Good Day folks,

Well the new Raspberry Pi model 4 is OUT and an upgrade it is, with up to 4GB Ram onboard, 4K Video & more.   Released earlier than expected but competition is growing fierce and forward motion was accelerated.

More Information here at Raspi Org;
https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/

And the pricing remains quite affordable as it's only a couple of dollars more than previous versions... can't go wrong there.

boB

I don't think the Pi 4B is quite available yet

Mid or early August I think.

Just tried to order the  Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

boB
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ClassicCrazy

Looks like Adafruit still has some of the 2 GB versions
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4292
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Steve_S

#3
Ohhh sorry, just noticed, pre-order, shipping August 1st.    Bummers :-(
Dag Nabbit !   Got all twitterpated for nothin,    hmph…..

Edit:
Just found this info, very useful stuff.
https://www.buyapi.ca/raspberry-pi-4-information/

boB

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ClassicCrazy

Andreas Spiess just  did his critical review of the new Raspberry Pi 4
https://youtu.be/0diTHAmVbhc

This is also another youtuber who does a lot of reviews on Pi and other similar small board computers
https://youtu.be/6MTa5AbcNQo

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

boB

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on June 30, 2019, 12:32:34 PM
Andreas Spiess just  did his critical review of the new Raspberry Pi 4
https://youtu.be/0diTHAmVbhc

This is also another youtuber who does a lot of reviews on Pi and other similar small board computers
https://youtu.be/6MTa5AbcNQo

Larry


Here is Explaining Computer's review of an actual Rpi 4B that he got evidently just for the review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXCjpJasvG0&t=3s

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Steve_S

I watched a couple of reviews including Andreas and I think it's likely a good thing to wait on till not only the software is ready to go but for any potential quirks to be sorted out.  I have a gut feeling they will have heat issues and that pretty much will need some cooling.  Must say, I am disappointed they didn't put a faster CPU on there.

Been peeking at OrangePi and a couple of others in the PI sub-families but none have the same following & support that Raspi Does.  Although the Orange Pi's do have a few extra features which may tempt me to try one...  Something to ponder on I suppose.

Steve_S

Okay, waiting IS JUSTIFIED on the 4.0 RasPi.

Your new Raspberry Pi 4 won't power on? USB-C cable problem now officially confirmed
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/your-new-raspberry-pi-4-wont-power-on-usb-c-cable-problem-now-officially-confirmed/

More than likely there will be other Gotcha's… have heard rumours but no confirms yet although I wouldn't be surprised.  While they do not appear to be show stoppers at this time who knows....   

boB


Is the 4 GB version available now ?   It didn't appear to be before.

Will look.
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Steve_S

A quick note, the Raspberry Pi 4B has been released, it has a few hardware fixes and tweaks and the org has released the first version of 64Bit Raspian as well, although most apps are still only 32bit, it's the start.

Stocks are presently limited and most vendors do not have them yet.  If purchasing new hardware be sure about which models you are dealing with.   I have yet to find any decent definitive comparison with a change log for the 4 & 4B but it has to be out there somewhere...

ClassicCrazy

Here is another Pi 4 project from Andreas  . In previous video he showed how to use Graphana to simplify using large amounts of data like you can get from the Classic.
This video he shows how to set up Pi to simplify updating all programs and data
https://youtu.be/a6mjt8tWUws

Glad I waited to get  Pi4 Steve ! Won't have time to play with this until winter - though winter seems to have come here to Wisconsin 3 or 4 weeks early.

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

Steve_S

Ditto, I have my 3B+ that ill be used for my Node-Red, classic & samlex stuff...   But I am now considering getting a 4B running Manjaro and a media player, so I can use that as my Video Player & web browser and light weight task computer.  Boat loads lower Wattage than my other computers, bad enough that I use a 47" LG 1080P LED TV  as my screen !  (likes watts too)

REF Manjaro:  https://manjaro.org/

Andreas also just did a video on integrating ZigBee - gotta look into that as well.   I want to be able to use IoT devices with my system, in particular an IoT Smartplug allowing me to turn off Satellite Modem or HRV ertc…   I bought a couple of Samsung ones because they can be managed by smartphone as well as Hass.IO BUT samsung wants ALL access to everything in your phone.  After I discovered how Intrusive & disrespectful of personal security many of these IoT makers are, I had to step back.   It appears that ZigBee may be a solution to that issue.

ClassicCrazy

#13
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https://randomnerdtutorials.com/sonoff-basic-switch-esp-easy-firmware-node-red/
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32824126514.html?spm=a2g1y.promotion-20181111.hotSpots_526130450.0

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable