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Title: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 06:07:17 AM
Ok here is the Beta version of the APP it is version 0.3.16 Ignore the "WEE" button on the minimize screen I am told it is a coming addition that does not work yet.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31975941/LocalStatusPanel.v0.3.17.air (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31975941/LocalStatusPanel.v0.3.17.air)

Here are the changes in this version
- Added live update to graph
- default to today in calendar control
- default to bar graph
- Live data chart now handles hour/half hours much more cleanly (defaults to beginning of hour instead of midnight).
- Fixed a connection closed bug where writing data to classic message stays when connection is disconnected
- Fit the offline data columns to size
- Changing the date / time span on the live graph resets to 12:00 instead of midnight
- auto-range the kWh scale
- Auto Scale Power meter. (You can set the power meter to a 1kw Scale and it will bump up to 2kw if it exceeds 1kw for example)
- Amp gauge no longer pegs at 68 amps.
- Color selector is named
- IP Addressing done

Ryan
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.16
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 06:14:54 AM
Things needed to be fixed:

*Insomnia shows up for most everyone when its not on in the Classic
*In Hydro mode under the Tech Menu the Minimum input voltage is off by a factor of 10. The Classic shows 1v and the App shows 10V

I did not add the disconnecting as I feel that is a Classic issue. Andrew is pretty sure he knows what it is and will be working on that.


Ryan
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: TomW on February 22, 2013, 12:00:29 PM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 06:07:17 AM

- Amp gauge pegs at 68 amps no matter which classic is attached.

Ryan

Ryan;

Did you perhaps mean the Voltmeter?

I never see 68 amps but have noticed my voltmeter has not gotten above 68 volts so far today but it is kind of cloudy?

Haven't compared it to the MNGP yet. Will report back later if the voltmeter does not follow the MNGP.

Tom

Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 12:11:55 PM
Tom I fixed it. The 68 amps was the bug the amp gauge used to peg at 68 amps no matter what

Ryan
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on February 22, 2013, 01:57:44 PM
Hi,

Some news  :

- This version seems to better handle , than her predecessor, the current logging time, so we won't see solar peaks at 03:00AM  8)


A little thing on the Status screen when in Resting Mode : Resting is sommetimes followed by (0:Unknown).


Yann 
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 02:09:02 PM
Good news. The 0 after resting is the RFR or reason for resting. There are several different reasons for resting and sometimes you will see others besides 0. Typically these are of no real value to the user unless there is a problem than this can be used for a troubleshooting tool.

Ryan
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 03:16:12 PM
Also as an FYI there is a Beta release of Classic code that fixes a few things as well. It can be found here http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=1058.0 (http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=1058.0)

Ryan
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on February 22, 2013, 04:18:08 PM
Bad news :

- In Day Log export, there are empty columns.
In my opinion, the values that aren't selected behind the graph (in the values to chart screen) aren't logged as they were before.
Yes logged is in bold because it's different than exported.

YES, I confirm this bug after a Select all values test then 10 minuts wait then export, there are datas in all the columns.



- In the values to Chart screen, a new value appears :  mbComboChrgStge   .  It's seems to be the charge_status which is a better name than  mbComboChrgStge.
A lot of different values in this column (more than the differents charges status (Bulk, Absorb, Float, EQ...)  :
0,1,771,772,1025,1027,1028,1283,1284,1539

What do they means ??

Yann
   
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
Yann
I tried to recreate what you are saying but cant. My Solar LV controller has had no values checked to log at all today and when I export it I get a blank page. Now if I select all those values and Export it I get all the values for the complete day?

So to be clear I think what you are saying is you had the APP running all day and not everything checked and when you exported it the data was not there? I am not able to reproduce that so maybe I am missing the explanation.

I do know it only exports what you have checked to log.

Also on the new data column, Andrew is toying with showing the Charge Stage the Classic is in at the moment. If we end up using that data we will of course name it "Charge Stage" but for development of Beta he uses the actual register name I think

Ryan
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on February 22, 2013, 04:57:10 PM
Ok thanks for the tentative of explanation with your terms.

Yes, the LocalApp runs all the day with 0.3.16 version and Battery Voltage, Kwh, watts selected.

After that, at the end of the day, I installed the 0.3.17 version  and this runs for 1/2 hour with this version.

When I test to export the current day log, as always, I selected all the values (sure ?????) and in csv log file generated, there were just the three values selected all the day, even for the 1/2 hour.


I have a doubt on the step "I selected all values" in the graph and there was two LocalApp versions on this single day, so I will watch tomorrow.


So sorry for this bad alert.

QuoteI do know it only exports what you have checked to log.
No, it logs all and it only export what you have checked in the graph.
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on February 22, 2013, 05:32:31 PM
About Status Monitor ( http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=1044.msg7564#msg7564 (http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=1044.msg7564#msg7564) ), I take it for a little run and... I found a bug on my configuration at the start of the application :

"Conversion from string "1.5" to type 'Double' is not valid in the .NET framewok !!


Yann
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: dRdoS7 on February 22, 2013, 06:09:25 PM
Hi,

Updated LocalApp from 3.13 to 3.17 this morning. Also updated Classic to 1339.

The "Default to Bar Chart" is (IMO) annoying, I like the Line Chart. Maybe an option to select the default or, at least to remember the users previous selection?

LA isn't displaying some readings:
Battery Current,   kWh,   Watts, & Input Current
just zeros.

Input Voltage is showing around 16V, actual is currently ;p 114V.

I noticed that the chart updates automatically in 1/2 hr mode, at least until it reaches the end of the current 1/2 hr. Did it do that before?

dRdoS7.

Edit: Forgot to mention: when changing from "Day" to "Hour" or "1/2 Hour" the time starts at 12:00. Would it be possible to start at the current time (hour or 1/2 span)?

Edit: I was so focused on what wasn't being displayed that I failed notice that the Battery Voltage displayed was incorrect. At the moment it's showing 50.9, actual is 56.9.
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Vern Faulkner on February 22, 2013, 06:29:56 PM
"Wee?"

Who said engineers and computer programmers don't have a sense of humour.
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: dRdoS7 on February 22, 2013, 06:58:46 PM
Quote from: Vern Faulkner on February 22, 2013, 06:29:56 PM
"Wee?"

Who said engineers and computer programmers don't have a sense of humour.

Don't press it!!!

I did and couldn't get up off the recliner: I was "disabled".

dRdoS7
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Westbranch on February 22, 2013, 07:55:14 PM
sounds like you guys  are having too much fun in a electric wheel chair...
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: boB on February 22, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Quote from: dRdoS7 on February 22, 2013, 06:09:25 PM

LA isn't displaying some readings:
Battery Current,   kWh,   Watts, & Input Current
just zeros.

Input Voltage is showing around 16V, actual is currently ;p 114V.

Edit: I was so focused on what wasn't being displayed that I failed notice that the Battery Voltage displayed was incorrect. At the moment it's showing 50.9, actual is 56.9.


Sounds to me like the LA stopped communicating with the Classic  ?

boB
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: dRdoS7 on February 22, 2013, 09:52:10 PM
Hi,

Quote from: boB on February 22, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Sounds to me like the LA stopped communicating with the Classic  ?

boB

I don't think it did/has. I've attached a screen dump & csv from roughly the same times.

dRdoS7 
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: boB on February 22, 2013, 10:27:33 PM
Quote from: dRdoS7 on February 22, 2013, 09:52:10 PM
Hi,

Quote from: boB on February 22, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Sounds to me like the LA stopped communicating with the Classic  ?

boB

I don't think it did/has. I've attached a screen dump & csv from roughly the same times.

dRdoS7

No, when it was displaying 0's and 16 volts input when it was really 117 volts input I thought that maybe
it was offline.

boB



Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Resthome on February 23, 2013, 11:16:05 AM
 
Quote from: dRdoS7 on February 22, 2013, 06:09:25 PM
Hi,


The "Default to Bar Chart" is (IMO) annoying, I like the Line Chart. Maybe an option to select the default or, at least to remember the users previous selection?


Ditto. I much prefer the Line Chart. If you are going to leave the Bar Graph as a default how about making the selections "Sticky" so if I change it to Line it isn't jumping back to Bar all the time.

Also on the - auto-range Power Scale  does not seem to work correctly for me. I had set the range to 1kW scale and it was reading in the 350-400W range and I came back to find it in the 5kWh scale. Does it have to over range before going to the next scale or is there some lower trigger point? I would assume it should only go to the next scale. Is it supposed to Auto down range also? Would be nice to have Auto Range be a selectable option.

FT data seems to be fixed in the Offline Date. Overall good progress in fixing the data logging. Still want to see the momentary disconnects resolved.
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on February 23, 2013, 05:56:40 PM
QuoteThe "Default to Bar Chart" is (IMO) annoying, I like the Line Chart. Maybe an option to select the default or, at least to remember the users previous selection?

Same remark !!

- Yes, the graph now updates himself but in the limit of the current selection (1/2 hour, hour). Is it possible to continue in the next period (1/2 hour, hour) ?

Yann
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: dgd on February 23, 2013, 09:04:47 PM
when you take the wee out could you put in Volts ?

dgd
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: dgd on February 25, 2013, 12:44:22 AM
Ryan,

..and what about changing the battery volts and amps meter scales to not look so odd
For a 24volt battery the meter goes 9 19 29 39.   20 25 30 35 would be more useful
And the amp meter for the c150 is  just weird  0  23.5. 47. 70.5. 94 when 0 25 50  75 100 would look more normal.

Dgd
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on February 25, 2013, 01:55:37 AM
Hi,

A new problem this morning at 07:30AM :

The LocalApp didn't reinitialize the Yesterday Kwh production.

After going near the Classic, I saw that he shows the same information.

So, I've done a manual log reset :

- Tweaks menu / More / More2, set A-RST at ON just with the arrows (without validating with Enter)
- Logs menu / Daily choice, Hold-Down LeftArrow and press Enter.


From the user point of view, the change was that yesterday, I used a lot the LocalApp Config Tab to activate many Re-Absorb and many changes to the EA, even when Re-Absorb was playing.  Yes, I'm always tracking my charge problem !!!


Yann


Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: boB on February 25, 2013, 02:17:17 AM
Quote from: dgd on February 25, 2013, 12:44:22 AM
Ryan,

..and what about changing the battery volts and amps meter scales to not look so odd
For a 24volt battery the meter goes 9 19 29 39.   20 25 30 35 would be more useful
And the amp meter for the c150 is  just weird  0  23.5. 47. 70.5. 94 when 0 25 50  75 100 would look more normal.

Dgd


I think I agree with this.

boB
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: dRdoS7 on February 25, 2013, 04:12:03 AM
Hi,

Quote from: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 06:07:17 AM
- auto-range the kWh scale

That works, I got 14.3kWh today.

dRdoS7

+1 For Changing the Battery Volts scale: "40-48-56-64" maybe, for 48v?
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Resthome on February 25, 2013, 02:38:08 PM
Okay new problem with 3.17 Live Data. If I only select three data points I can pick the days from the calendar or scroll back and forth with the arrows using Day. If I select all data points I cannot select a date from the calendar or use the arrows to move. The data never moves or changes. See attached. Calendar at one date and graph at another.

Also if I select 2 Weeks for export it goes from today's date forward by two weeks where there is no data yet.
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: dRdoS7 on February 26, 2013, 03:35:33 AM
Hi,

Quote from: dRdoS7 on February 25, 2013, 04:12:03 AM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 06:07:17 AM
- auto-range the kWh scale

That works, I got 14.3kWh today.


I should have read the post from Lya72!

Mine showed 18.7 today (not possible: raining & cloudy). I checked the data and found it hadn't reset at midnight. So I'm guessing I didn't get 14.3 yesterday. Any, at least the "Auto-scaling" works well.

dRdoS7
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on February 27, 2013, 01:44:21 AM
Hi DrDos,

Quote
Can you check to make sure in the tweaks menu on the classic not the App that Insomnia is turned OFF?

I am not seeing the KWH not reset here on my 6 classics?

Ryan


Also check in the Tweaks menu to make sure that Time Synch is ON
and that the clock is set correctly in the MISC/TIME menu.


For me, these two Settings were OK, and yours ?

Yann
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on February 27, 2013, 05:08:26 PM
Hi Ryan, Andrew, Bob,

Another thing, you have to work on, is to install the application on a new computer !!
(Virtual machines are ideals for that)

You will saw some problems with the enable logging configuration.

After the installation, if you go straight to Data/Live, you will have a popup saying that there is no data to display and you have to enable the logging configuration !
That's OK BUT, even if you click a lot on the OK button of this popup, it will never close !!!!


After you force the LocalApp to shut (Application didn't respond), and restart it, you go straight to the Config Tab and select the Enable Logging, then close the LocalApp, your new setting isn't registered.

On the next day, when you restart the App, you don't know that Logging isn't enable !!! And you loose another day of datas ==> GRRRRR

Why the Logging Enabled is not automatically registered ?

Yann
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: boB on February 27, 2013, 07:22:12 PM
Quote from: Lya72 on February 27, 2013, 05:08:26 PM
Hi Ryan, Andrew, Bob,

Another thing, you have to work on, is to install the application on a new computer !!
(Virtual machines are ideals for that)

You will saw some problems with the enable logging configuration.

After the installation, if you go straight to Data/Live, you will have a popup saying that there is no data to display and you have to enable the logging configuration !
That's OK BUT, even if you click a lot on the OK button of this popup, it will never close !!!!


After you force the LocalApp to shut (Application didn't respond), and restart it, you go straight to the Config Tab and select the Enable Logging, then close the LocalApp, your new setting isn't registered.

On the next day, when you restart the App, you don't know that Logging isn't enable !!! And you loose another day of datas ==> GRRRRR

Why the Logging Enabled is not automatically registered ?

Yann


Thank you Yann !

I bet that it is not enabled automatically because it starts taking up disk space.  That is my guess
anyway.

Forwarding this off to Andrew.

boB

Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 27, 2013, 07:29:29 PM
Yes it is auto off just for that reason. That said once you check the box labeled "Enable Data logging" it will always log anytime it is open. I have not had any issue with this function and I suspect it is a corrupt install if it is not remembering this?

Ryan
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on February 28, 2013, 12:50:25 AM
Corrupt install... OR :

- installed with a user having admin rights and
- used with a user that don't have admin rights

That doesn't matter ?

Yann
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 28, 2013, 05:40:29 AM
Yann
I am not sure if admin privileges would matter or not. It shouldn't but Windows is getting funny with there admin privileges. I would try to run in as Admin and see if that fixes it if not do a complete uninstall and re install

Ryan
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on March 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PM
Hi,

==>  The Update Error is always present !!  "An error occured while trying to update..."

Yann
Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Resthome on March 08, 2013, 04:37:03 PM
Quote from: Lya72 on March 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PM
Hi,

==>  The Update Error is always present !!  "An error occured while trying to update..."

Yann


Make sure you uninstall the previous version before trying the install.

Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: boB on March 08, 2013, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Resthome on March 08, 2013, 04:37:03 PM
Quote from: Lya72 on March 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PM
Hi,

==>  The Update Error is always present !!  "An error occured while trying to update..."

Yann


Make sure you uninstall the previous version before trying the install.


Windows is weird...  Sometimes you have problems and sometimes you don't.

boB

Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Lya72 on March 13, 2013, 02:31:54 AM
Hi,

Rest, you are saying that if I want to sort the Update Error that occured some days during the use of this 0.3.17, I have to correctly uninstall the precedent version ?
As this error isn't encountered during the installation but after, I think that's the Automatic Update process which is faulty whith a bad version comparison.

But if it's an installation problem, it's also a bug because it's the installation process that doesn't do correctly the precedent version uninstall. (Back in my Life, I was an MSI maker and we had to process that)

On this 0.3.17, there is also a graph refreshment problem :

If you consult the Live Datas graph with a day selected 03/08/2013, it's Ok. Then you return to the status Tab.
Three days after (Edit : the LocalApp is never closed, the computer is in sleeping state during the night), you go back to the Live Datas graph, the Calendar selector indicates by default the current day, 03/12/2013, that's OK, but the graph title and the graph datas are always 03/08/2013 !!
Even when you change the graph type from day to hour, the graph title and the graph datas always shows 03/08/2013, so your date selector and the graph title don't show the same date !!
(Screen capture exist if needed)

You have to select another date in the date selector to refresh the display.

Yann

Title: Re: Local App BETA software version 0.3.17
Post by: Resthome on March 13, 2013, 07:07:59 AM
Sorry Yann, I don't understand what you are doing to get an update error. So you can disregard my previous comment.
As for the refresh problem, that's been a problem forever with viewing the data tabs for me. In fact I think I posted about it in one of the eairlier beta versions.   :(