I have a request for My Midnite help. Anyone that has the newest code 3-1-13 and has there Classic connected to the Internet could you Go into the Networking section and set Web Access to "Enabled" and press and hold "Enter" until you see Data sent and saved. Now also Record your Device ID or DI and please PM it to me. We want to start piling data up on the server and make sure the channels work prior to opening this up to Beta testing next week.
Thank you
Ryan
Hi Ryan,
As interested in better Midnite products and actively doing BetaTesting, my Classic is already activated.
Hoping that you already receive Classic Datas from France !!
So, please, do not hesitate to PM me, MyMidnite parameters to have an Alpha test return !
Yann
Yes Andrew seems to have one little Kink to work out then I will be asking all of you to be Alpha/Beta testers of the MyMidnite site and help us shape it into what everyone wants "Hopefully" :o
Ryan
Hi,
No news, good news ?
Have you seen the day production been reset at the beginning of the afternoon ?
I hope you're now monitoring all my Classic's Datas.
Yann
Quote from: Lya72 on April 08, 2013, 03:55:18 PM
Have you seen the day production been reset at the beginning of the afternoon ?
Yes, have this happening too on changing to 1131
dgd
Quote from: Halfcrazy on April 05, 2013, 06:12:31 AM
Yes Andrew seems to have one little Kink to work out then I will be asking all of you to be Alpha/Beta testers of the MyMidnite site and help us shape it into what everyone wants "Hopefully" :o
Ryan
Count me in. My classic arrives Friday on the brown truck. I'll be up Saturday morning so look for a PM with my DI. Count me in also for beta testing the load measuring via shunt stuff.
Quote from: Halfcrazy on April 05, 2013, 06:12:31 AM
Yes Andrew seems to have one little Kink to work out then I will be asking all of you to be Alpha/Beta testers of the MyMidnite site and help us shape it into what everyone wants "Hopefully" :o
Ryan
Count me in. Sent device ID by PM.
Just PM'd you my DI
ID's sent, If I screwed it up let me know what you need.
a little UP, ten days after....
What's the weather on MyMidnite coast ??
Yann
Noit sure if you want reports here or in messages of some sort?
I have gotten my Solar Classic set up several times successfully but as soon as I leave the page and return later the setup is gone?
Never ever got it to take my Wind Classics data the failure pop up claims it is "unrecognized" then tells me to report the failure via a non existent form.
So is it just me or are others seeing this?
Tom
Hi Tom,
Are you speaking of screens in MyMidnite web site ??
Did you get credentials to enter in the web site ?
I did´nt get any answer following the ID´s sent ten days ago.
Yann
Sorry guys. At this Time I want to see if everyones Classics will call in. I want them to start piling data up so "When" Andrew is ready to open the door to you guys as Beta testers / Design helpers there will be data to play with.
I will try to get through the list in the next day or 2 and let you all know if they are or are not calling in.
Thank you for the patience
Ryan
Quote from: Lya72 on April 17, 2013, 01:56:08 AM
Hi Tom,
Are you speaking of screens in MyMidnite web site ??
Yann
Yann;
Yes, got my account set up but it loses info I give it.
Sorry, the thread is about MyMidnite so I did not specify.
Tom
@Tom,
You weren't in this thread contributor's list so I was thinking that you weren't speaking of myMidnite.
Yes, I'm jealous ! Don't you think that your myMidnite Profile is linked tou your Linux utilisation and outdated Adobe AIR... lol.
FYI, about my questions related to RaspBerry Pi, I'm waiting for a new PI with 512Mb RAM as I was in the first PI batch, only getting 256Mb RAM.
So putting Linux, MySQL, Apache, Python running a lot when measuring my House Electricity consumption coupled with the Classic was too much.
In the End of the week, i will came back to share your setup, hoping to put myOwnMidnite running on the PI, before the end of the month !!
Yann
PS : Thanks to Ryan that reinsure me this morning, saying that my Classic was actually contributing, a lot ;-) to myMidnite.
Quote from: Lya72 on April 17, 2013, 04:05:43 PM
@Tom,
You weren't in this thread contributor's list so I was thinking that you weren't speaking of myMidnite.
Yann;
I must of missed the contributors list? I sent Ryan the info right after I saw the thread.
I tend to not chime in with "issues" because they may be related to my setup and not anything Midnite can "fix".
I have been seeing some issues with using the RPi with the USB register dump stream. The Pi uses some shared bus and / or processing for USB, ethernet and SDHC so massaging the data from USB, processing with calls to the SDHC (I assume) and writing processed data to the USB and monitoring via TCP/IP (ethernet) produces some issues that can bog down the Pi trying to keep up and toss erroneous data into logs. I think. Working on some less brute force methodology. Reading the register dump stream on USB seemed the easiest but I am rethinking my methods now. I am getting too old and cranky to learn new stuff like Modbus but I keep chipping away.
Plus, my ArchLinux install I was using to do it all has a corrupted SDHC card that will not boot. Not positive it is related to the shared bus & processing bit but I am leaning that way.
Have a lot going on just now from major RE system upgrades to Spring work on the farm so the logging has been bumped down on priorities.
More as I get there.
Tom
Quote from: TomW on April 17, 2013, 05:02:18 PM
Plus, my Arch Linux install I was using to do it all has a corrupted SDHC card that will not boot.
Tom
Tom I had SD car corruption issues with my 512 Pi (and so have many others) and seemed to have fixed it using ram disk. My take on the issue is the sd card is not meant to be a hard drive. They are for cameras and very light read write activity. All Debian based linux's grab half of the available memory at boot and create a ram disk in /dev/shm. When using Westyd's code to poll my sunsaver I did quite a bit of file manipulation to arrive at the end I wanted. When I moved all this to ram disk the corruption stopped. May help you may not.
- Jeff
Ok I have a couple URL's for everyone to look at.
Keep in mind neither of these pages Auto Refreshes
https://www.mymidnite.com/?q=node/15 (https://www.mymidnite.com/?q=node/15)
This one shows the last 24 hours of call ins. It shows the last time each classic called in. Keep in mind the Device ID on the Local App may have a wrong digit or 2. If the Classic is not calling in I find it is usally 1 of 2 things (Assuming that Web Access is Enabled and the Classic has newer code)
1-The Classic needs to be rebooted. Try this and wait say 30 minutes
2-The info in the netwrok section is incorrect. Usually the DNS servers. If these values look wrong you can set it to DHCP and push and hold Enter till it says Data send and save and reboot it. The Classic should then get good info from the router and start calling in. If Static IP is needed simply switch it back to static and change the IP to the required one. The rest of the info stays the same.
https://www.mymidnite.com/?q=node/14 (https://www.mymidnite.com/?q=node/14)
This one shows Classics that have Ever called in at the top and shows some columns of active data that is being saved on the server at the bottom of the page. It also has a live shot of my tower Camera.
Ryan
I've trimmed unessential and edited but is this how they communicate with you?
A world wide broadcast on UDP port 4626?
Apr 14 14:41:02 LogDrop SRC=??.??.??.?? DST=255.255.255.255 PROTO=UDP SPT=1861 DPT=4626
- Jeff
No what you are seeing there is a Broadcast on the LAN only so the Local App can find the Classic. In basic speak the Classic sends out a packet every 5-10 seconds and the App watches for them
As far as talking to My Midnite the Classic does a DNS lookup on My Midnite. It works just like a Browser looking for a webpage
Ryan
Ryan;
FYI, my Solar Classics data is there! ;D
Been pretty embarrassingly low lately on solar power harvesting.
Tom
Hi,
Thanks for these screens.
Found my Classic on the first page :
E3295FCD 2013-04-18 03:22:16
On the second page, not found in the 25 detailled datas.
Question : what is the Time reference used ??
Not UTC.
Yann
On the time I am not sure honestly? For me it is 1 hr behind me and I am EST.
On the second link I am not sure why some classics are not showing Data. It may be Andrew is monkeying with stuff. He is working pretty feverishly now and promises me the group here will have something to play with in less than a week. I think when we do I will start a new thread and make it a Sticky. Andrew will be involved as well and we will hit the ground running and between the group here we should be able to really get a lot of good ideas. Things like what and when to Email you etc.
Ryan
So, what determines when the Classic calls in?
Mine appears to try every 13 minutes or so. My hillbilly internet is less than reliable so that may be the reason it varies here.
Just curious.
Tom
:)Both of mine have shown up after some button pushing! I'm always amazed when my messing about works.
Wade
Any info on why different systems report in at different rates?
Mine is very random. Like this AM mine reported in at various intervals from 13 minutes to nearly an hour?
I see some systems with up to 14 instances of reporting and some with only 2 or 3. Mine only seems to get up to 7 maximum.
Just curious. I would prefer to see more data rather than less.
Is it a user setting or hard coded into something?
BTW, no reset on KWH data today, but it is early.
Thanks.
Tom
They are supposed to try to call in once every 10-13 minutes. For now they take the last logging register in the Classic. In the future My Midnite will ask the classic for missing data. So if it only calls in once an hour it would get the other missing data.
As for why some call in with more regularity I can not say for certain. That was one of the reasons to get people setting there's up so we can see how different locations behave.
Ryan
Ryan;
I started using tcpdump logging traffic to / from mymidnite.com to see if it tries and fails or just doesn't try.
More info if / when I get it.
Tom
Edit..
Monitoring mymidnite.com was not effective at grabbing the traffic so I switched to just watching the Classic itself on the LAN.
On qnode15, I CAN see that my Classic (E3295FCD) call regularly, every 12-13 minutes, but on qnode14, sometimes, i can't see it or If i see it, there is just one data line from 3 or 5 hours before !!
So qnode15 and qnode14 don't share the same datas or is it a bdd request problem ??
Yann
On the first page https://www.mymidnite.com/?q=node/15 (https://www.mymidnite.com/?q=node/15) I can see one classic with id B426 C482 My id reported by the local App is B427 C482 So could this be my classic? All numbers the same but 26 instead of 27.
As you said the local App reported id could be a number or two out?
EDIT, just answered my own question, My classic is showing B427 C482 on the classic its self :) just shows 26 on the local App big deal. Even though my classic was showing up on the test page with the old firmware . I Just updated the classic to the latest firmware today to make sure I am on the same page as everyone with beta testing (update was easier than I was expecting)
looking forward to mymidnite . I like seeing others peoples system date even just pack voltage and Pv input watts give me a real indication of how others are doing around the world. Interesting to see what other peoples voltage drops to over night before being refreshed by the sun the following day :)
kurt
I have 2 classics 150 & 150 lite, if I connect to my midnite server, can I limit the data sent, Im using a shaped 3G internet service where my off grid system is located , is it possible to send updates every 15 mins rather than every few seconds ??
Data is sent to My Midnite around every 13 minutes. I think Andrew may make this adjustable very soon.
Ryan
Ryan-
Count me in (finally got the latest firmware installed), though I may have the same 'hillbilly internet' issues as Tom. DI sent to you via PM.
-Dave
My Classic 150 307A485A is showing up now in both locations. :)
Will be interesting to see what happens if the WiFi link I am using drops. It has a sign in page that the auto login does not work on.
Any news as to why not all of the classics that are showing up as dialling in over the last 24hrs are not showing up on the 2nd detailed page linked earlier?
Is the plan to have everyone's data viewable to all?
Looking forward to being able to view my system from smart phone.
Kurt.
Node 14 can only support so many Classics. Andrew found a quirk in his database and we now have 1200 plus classics calling in. So just because you do not see them in Node14 is no cause for alarm. We should be opening My MidNite up very soon to you all for testing ETC
Ryan
Wow more than 1200 classics dialling in already! They are taking over the world.
Seriously though When it's up and running it would have to be one of the biggest live and wide spread renewable energy production databases around.
Kurt
Quote from: offgridQLD on April 26, 2013, 11:12:49 PM
Wow more than 1200 classics dialling in already! They are taking over the world.
Seriously though When it's up and running it would have to be one of the biggest live and wide spread renewable energy production databases around.
It looked good. However, viewing the connection date/time most had the same time yesterday. Now 24 hrs later they are all gone and its back to about 65 connecting classics. I hope they all come back
My guess is a lot of those are older code and will try calling in but not pile up data. So that would account for all the call ins yesterday when they where added but they would drop out after that.
Ryan
Hi Ryan,
Do you think that the number of 1200 Classics calling is realist ?
By default, the web access option is disabled.
Secundly, what you describe is the result I obtain with the latest Beta Firmware !
How is the call made from each Classic to the MyMidnite servers ?
Is it a http request with parameters enclosed ?
If Yes, I can simulate calls with a NAS Cron every 13 minutes, to validate your procedure.
If No, Isn't it a protocol that is filtered by some FAI over the world ?
Yann
Quote from: Lya72 on April 28, 2013, 02:29:26 AM
If No, Isn't it a protocol that is filtered by some FAI over the world ?
FAI ?
Sorry,
in France, FAI is "Fournisseurs d'Accès Internet", for you, I think I should translate to Internet Access Providers.
Yann
Quote from: Lya72 on April 28, 2013, 02:43:31 AM
Sorry,
in France, FAI is "Fournisseurs d'Accès Internet", for you, I think I should translate to Internet Access Providers.
Yann
Yann;
Good point. Lots of Service Providers filter (incoming at least) protocols like mail. IRC, HTTP, etc.
Tom
I assume the connecting Classics are those with the latest 1370 firmware. My two, 8CF95262 and 200BA94A both connect every 13 or so minutes but my third Classic D2AB656C running 1181 has never connected although web access is enabled and dns servers are all good.
Only occasionly do I see one or two lines of details in the node/15 display, often my Classics are not there despite the regular connection.
So with connecting now proven what next?
Will MN maintain a security file of users to Classics? and to view details a userid and password need entering, to show a list of Classics that can be viewed with details displayed after selecting one?
dgd
My Classic (B1F9 2E0D) on FW 1181 is showing up.
My Classic has only been up for two days and is not actually doing anything at the moment.
I'll update to 1370 soon.
Had to reboot my classic 307A485A today to get it to log into My Midnite again. It was stuck at 4/30/13 00:01:18 all day until I rebooted. It's now logging data again. Running 1370 FW on Classic.
Quote from: Resthome on April 30, 2013, 04:43:14 PM
Had to reboot my classic 307A485A today to get it to log into My Midnite again. It was stuck at 4/30/13 00:01:18 all day until I rebooted. It's now logging data again. Running 1370 FW on Classic.
Interesting. Have you seen this Classic reset for no known reason during the day ?
boB
Bob.. I've never seen it reset during the day. It is set to A-Restart at 23:59.
The reason I did a restart was based on Ryan's comment:
"If the Classic is not calling in I find it is usally 1 of 2 things (Assuming that Web Access is Enabled and the Classic has newer code)
1-The Classic needs to be rebooted. Try this and wait say 30 minutes"
Sure enought after rebooting it showed up within a few minutes.
Hi, I'm new to a midnite solar classic 150 (just a couple of weeks, and probably even less than that having it actually connected to my solar panels), and also obviously new to this forum. Being new to everything else, I thought I'd go ahead and enable web communications (having just days ago figured out a wireless bridge and everything to connect the classic (in the garage) to my main internet connection (in the basement on the other end of the house, of course), which turned out to be no small trick, but I got there. For the most part, it seems to have been working well for the past several days, and it is pretty cool to be able to monitor my classic from about anywhere (including my cell (/smart) phone, which I can and have done). I also like the monitoring software, also on my main computer far away from the classic (I might be getting less exercise by not obsessively treking to the garage to check on the classic in person, however... ;).
All of that said, I did see one issue yesterday, which I don't understand. For some unknown reason, mid-day, the kw hours accumulator re-set (it hasn't done that before - not that it's been up and running long, like I mentioned) and the mymidnite site reports a "watchdog reset", that doesn't seem to be going away. I don't know what's up with that, or what it may mean. Any thoughts? If it helps, my classic is D3D1 FCE7.
My crazy solar project has certainly been an adventure so far, and I'm happy to now be a part of the midnite solar classic group, as I continue to pursue it, wherever it may take me... (and I don't really know, and never have).
Lee.
lee search for watchdog, there are some threads on it like this one http://midniteforum.com/index.php?topic=957.msg9298#msg9298
Yeah, if the Classic reset because of a watch dog reset, however long ago, and has not reset since then,
that message may just stay there until the Classic gets reset by some other means, like, turning the
power off and back on again. (battery breaker)
If the Auto-Restart (A-Rst) is enabled in TWEAKS, the Classic will do a watch dog reset every night
at 23:59 which will of course also show up as a watch dog reset.
I suppose we should stop that message after so much time, but that may be kind of tough for
My Midnite to figure out on its own. Might be easier to just change the Classic code to make
it reset that particular piece of information say, the next 23:59 (midnight) if the Classic is not
set to Auto-Restart. This would be a good way for the system to know when it actually did get
restarted by a watch dog catching a glitch or something like that which is what the watch dog
is really meant for.
boB
I'm not seeing, and haven't seen, the watchdog reset message anywhere but on mymidnite.com. Am I missing something? Would re-starting the classic clear it, on mymidnite.com? Is there another way I can clear it? Would I lose my offline history if I cleared it by disconnecting and restarting the classic? I have no idea why it happened in the first place. It hasn't seemed to make any difference, except the daily kwh record for that day is off and the message that is on mymidnite.com. I was not home when the reset apparently happened. It hasn't happened since (the next couple of days). It looks like I ask too many questions, but hey, in some ways, I'm amazed I've figured out as much as I have....