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Charge Controllers and Clippers => The "Classic" charge controller => Topic started by: Trickle Charge on March 10, 2014, 04:57:32 PM

Title: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: Trickle Charge on March 10, 2014, 04:57:32 PM
I was just wondering why one of my controllers would ramp down to zero watts when it switches to the absorb mode, or float for that matter, but the other one stays in bulk longer and continues to produce wattage when it goes into Absorb? 
Title: Re: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: TomW on March 10, 2014, 05:25:52 PM
Trickle;

Are these Classics or Kids?

Are you using Follow Me?

If not they may be seeing different voltages due to not being calibrated for volts offset.

First thought.

Tom
Title: Re: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: dgd on March 10, 2014, 05:41:17 PM
As Tom says the voltage each Classic is seeing is different. However, even if you get them reading the same it may only take a tiny voltage difference to have one Classic producing most of the power.

Charge balancing, possibly where you can specify which Classic produces what % of the absorb/float/eq power is not yet available but in another thread it was hinted that this may be a future feature.

dgd
Title: Re: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: Trickle Charge on March 10, 2014, 06:41:58 PM
They are Classics.  If it's a normal behaviour then I'm ok.  If there was some setting that was turning them off and I could reverse it then I'd do it.  One array is three times the size of the one that shuts down, I just don't see why they both wouldn't continue to produce wattage if the bank needs it  and it always does… :)
Title: Re: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: TomW on March 10, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
Quote from: Trickle Charge on March 10, 2014, 06:41:58 PM
They are Classics.  If it's a normal behaviour then I'm ok.  If there was some setting that was turning them off and I could reverse it then I'd do it.  One array is three times the size of the one that shuts down, I just don't see why they both wouldn't continue to produce wattage if the bank needs it  and it always does… :)

Trickle;

Get yourself a common phone cable and get "Follow Me" set up it will at least have both units acting in lockstep. Just takes a phone cable between Classics and enable Follow Me on both Classics. Should eliminate it being a  problem with one of the Classics at least.

Just what I would do.

Tom
Title: Re: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: Trickle Charge on March 10, 2014, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: TomW on March 10, 2014, 07:01:30 PM


Trickle;

Get yourself a common phone cable and get "Follow Me" set up it will at least have both units acting in lockstep. Just takes a phone cable between Classics and enable Follow Me on both Classics. Should eliminate it being a  problem with one of the Classics at least.

Just what I would do.

Tom

Thanks, I'll have a look at that. 

Cheers
Title: Re: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: TomW on March 10, 2014, 07:20:43 PM
Oh, and calibrate the Classics idea of voltage in and out against a voltmeter with the tweaks menu  would be smart.  It is easy.

Tom
Title: Re: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: boB on March 11, 2014, 02:35:03 AM

You will want to use the Follow-Me feature if you can but as long as the batteries are getting an absorb charge, the batteries are getting charged and that is the most important part.

If one Classic is going to Float first and the other Classic is taking over the Absorb, it is best to use the Follow-Me though.
Sure doesn't hurt.

boB
Title: Re: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: Trickle Charge on March 11, 2014, 12:06:59 PM
I have noticed the same behaviour when I run the generator.  The one array shuts down but the other one keeps charging.  I'll be done with that until next fall though.

I'll try and muster up the courage for this "follow-me".  I really don't know much about my system.  Some guys came, installed it, and now they're gone.  lol

Thanks
Cheers
TC
Title: Re: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: TomW on March 11, 2014, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: Trickle Charge on March 11, 2014, 12:06:59 PM

I'll try and muster up the courage for this "follow-me".  I really don't know much about my system.  Some guys came, installed it, and now they're gone.  lol

Thanks
Cheers
TC

TC;

You can download the Classic Manual over here:

http://www.midnitesolar.com/pdfs/classicManual.pdf (http://www.midnitesolar.com/pdfs/classicManual.pdf)

Follow Me cable connections are on page 18 or so and other information in the same area of the manual. Not really that difficult to set up but you will need to power off the Classic(s) and open them up to connect the cable.

After that we can easily walk you through the setup here on the forum.

Tom
Title: Re: One Bank, Two Classics. One Output Goes to Zero When Hitting Absorb
Post by: boB on March 11, 2014, 06:17:31 PM
Quote from: Trickle Charge on March 11, 2014, 12:06:59 PM
I have noticed the same behaviour when I run the generator.  The one array shuts down but the other one keeps charging.

Yes, sounds like the battery voltage reading might want to be tweaked slightly.

What happens here is that when one charger gets the battery voltage up higher, the one Classic will stop charging because either the other Classic is keeping it up there or the generator is keeping the battery voltage up.

Either way, no biggie as long as the battery voltage is able to be sitting at the Absorb voltage or there-abouts
while it is getting its juice put back in.

Sounds like you are OK though for now.

boB