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Charge Controllers and Clippers => The "Classic" charge controller => Topic started by: sigp2101 on February 19, 2016, 01:48:39 PM

Title: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: sigp2101 on February 19, 2016, 01:48:39 PM
Hi guys,

just got new Classic 150 and since I have no chance installing it before spring time I was wondering how to simulate functional test in order to verify all is in order with this unit. Want to do this within 30 days warranty provided by dealer so just in case something is wrong.

I do not have access to PV panels and have may have access to car battery. Is there anything that I can use to simulate PV input with and in safe manner not to damage brand new unit.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: BobWhite on February 19, 2016, 02:40:53 PM
hi sigp2101,
You must have run into a great deal on a classic. I wouldn't worry, its a great product and MN stands behind it for five years plus two if you wish.
Here is the warranty
http://www.midnitesolar.com/pdfs/MIDNITE_SOLAR_INC_Warranty.pdf
Its not worth trying to see if or how it works until you are ready and prepared with the proper equipment and materials. Spring is just around the corner so start prepping and have fun with setting up your system.

Quote from: sigp2101 on February 19, 2016, 01:48:39 PM
Hi guys,

just got new Classic 150 and since I have no chance installing it before spring time I was wondering how to simulate functional test in order to verify all is in order with this unit. Want to do this within 30 days warranty provided by dealer so just in case something is wrong.

I do not have access to PV panels and have may have access to car battery. Is there anything that I can use to simulate PV input with and in safe manner not to damage brand new unit.

Any ideas?

I'm confident it will work fine, just look for physical damage that may happen in shipping.
Walt
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: Resthome on February 19, 2016, 06:36:02 PM
Yeah not really safe to use anything other that a panel on the PV inputs. You can hook a 12v car battery to the Battery connections but make sure you include a breaker or fuse for safety. Not much you can do except power it up and look at menus if you have the MNGP and not a lite. You could view it with the Local Status App if you connect it to a network but you will not see any charging functions until you get a panel connected

And the Midnite warranty is 5 years and can be extended 2 additional years for a checkup fee. You can
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: BobWhite on February 19, 2016, 06:53:48 PM
Quote from: Resthome  :-[link=topic=2932.msg28104#msg28104 date=1455924962
Yeah not really safe to use anything other that a panel on the PV inputs. You can hook a 12v car battery to the Battery connections but make sure you include a breaker or fuse for safety. Not much you can do except power it up and look at menus if you have the MNGP and not a lite. You could view it with the Local Status App if you connect it to a network but you will not see any charging functions until you get a panel connected

And the Midnite warranty is 5 years and can be extended 2 additional years for a checkup fee. You can
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Sorry , RH is correct on the warranty!
I'm getting old!
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: sigp2101 on February 20, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
Hi guys,

thanks for all of the input, appreciated. Question, would connecting it on battery side power up unit?

And yes I run into a great deal up her in Canada with local distributor. Just it bugs so much that I can't do anything to check if it is good unit or bad within 30 days. After that I am with manufacture's warranty and costs associated with it in worst case scenario.
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: Resthome on February 20, 2016, 03:29:40 PM
Quote from: sigp2101 on February 20, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
Hi guys,

thanks for all of the input, appreciated. Question, would connecting it on battery side power up unit?

And yes I run into a great deal up her in Canada with local distributor. Just it bugs so much that I can't do anything to check if it is good unit or bad within 30 days. After that I am with manufacture's warranty and costs associated with it in worst case scenario.

Yes, connecting the Battery with fuse or breaker to the BAT terminals on the Classic will power up the Classic. If you have the MNGP (Graphic Panel) you will be able to see the menus. Otherwise connect an Ethernet cable from the classic to a wireless router and access the Classic from a PC with the Local Status App available on the MN web site (requires Adobe Air to be installed on PC first)
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: TomW on February 21, 2016, 12:12:09 PM
Quote from: Resthome on February 20, 2016, 03:29:40 PM
Quote from: sigp2101 on February 20, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
Hi guys,

thanks for all of the input, appreciated. Question, would connecting it on battery side power up unit?

And yes I run into a great deal up her in Canada with local distributor. Just it bugs so much that I can't do anything to check if it is good unit or bad within 30 days. After that I am with manufacture's warranty and costs associated with it in worst case scenario.

Yes, connecting the Battery with fuse or breaker to the BAT terminals on the Classic will power up the Classic. If you have the MNGP (Graphic Panel) you will be able to see the menus. Otherwise connect an Ethernet cable from the classic to a wireless router and access the Classic from a PC with the Local Status App available on the MN web site (requires Adobe Air to be installed on PC first)

Actually, I seem to recall firing one up with a common 9 volt battery on the battery terminals to upgrade it at a friends who had windows  some years ago and I had nothing with Winders on it.  Before they had the Linux option available. 

Just from here.

Best of luck with it.

Tom
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: BobWhite on February 21, 2016, 12:53:49 PM
Quote from: sigp2101 on February 19, 2016, 01:48:39 PM
Hi guys,

just got new Classic 150 and since I have no chance installing it before spring time I was wondering how to simulate functional test in order to verify all is in order with this unit. Want to do this within 30 days warranty provided by dealer so just in case something is wrong.

I do not have access to PV panels and have may have access to car battery. Is there anything that I can use to simulate PV input with and in safe manner not to damage brand new unit.

Any ideas?


Do you have the lite or classic with mngp?
Walt
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: CDN-VT on February 22, 2016, 02:11:44 AM
I know it would be nice just to see it , but You should wait till your ready.
You will need to start the programming and the time counter .. So I would wait.
Your excitement will be great later ,

VT
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: sigp2101 on February 22, 2016, 09:34:02 AM
Quote from: BobWhite on February 21, 2016, 12:53:49 PM

Do you have the lite or classic with mngp?
Walt

Classic 150 with detachable display.
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: CDN-VT on February 22, 2016, 09:11:38 PM
Thats just called a classic with a MNGP as in
Midnite Graphic  Panel .

& I know it's killing ya , But I still would wait & get on the other stuff :-)

VT
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: sigp2101 on March 29, 2016, 04:35:44 PM
Hooked it up to 12V battery on batt side and unit powered up nicely. Asked me a bunch of questions :)
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: Westbranch on March 29, 2016, 09:19:57 PM
Asked me a bunch of questions  to paraphrase....  just as it should do....
Title: Re: How to test newly acquired controler?
Post by: CDN-VT on March 29, 2016, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: sigp2101 on March 29, 2016, 04:35:44 PM
Hooked it up to 12V battery on batt side and unit powered up nicely. Asked me a bunch of questions :)

Anymore testing required , send it over !!