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Charge Controllers and Clippers => The "Classic" charge controller => Topic started by: verdigo on April 01, 2016, 08:17:49 AM

Title: Classic Lightning Damage
Post by: verdigo on April 01, 2016, 08:17:49 AM
Thunderstorm yesterday. Classic is beeping and indicating a ground fault. I have some array damage as well but have disconnected the grounds of the affected strings and shut off those breakers. Did a restart with no change. I removed the Ground fault 2 pin header from the board and did another restart as well with no change. Should I pull this thing and send it in for repair or does anyone have any other ideas? The  ground fault breaker on the DC side did not trip during the event.
Title: Re: Classic Lightning Damage
Post by: TomW on April 01, 2016, 08:54:37 AM
I have seen sky sparks scramble electronics and d no real damage so I like to power down and let sit a couple days before  signing the death certificate. With a Classic you probably should disconnect (turn off breakers) to the batteries AND the panels to completely power it down.

If it took any kind of direct hit rather than just a spike of induced voltage from a nearby strike it likely is damaged.

No guarantee but I would try that before sending it in.

Calling Midnite Tech Support would be wise, also.


Tom


Title: Re: Classic Lightning Damage
Post by: Westbranch on April 01, 2016, 12:42:11 PM
did you have any SPDs in use?  they would tell you if a hit happened....
Title: Re: Classic Lightning Damage
Post by: CDN-VT on April 01, 2016, 10:32:04 PM
Since Tom started it , I also had a weird start once , I re-powered up the classic and all was fine , I do have many SPD's .

With all off power breakers , classic is black lights ALL off , I hooked a alligator jumper's  between ground & power out and in , shorting all , I also pulled out the back up battery in the MNGP , left it overnight /4 hrs for me at that time.

I started it , , remove all dead outs alligator jumper's between power & gronds & insertered the MNGP back up cell, turned on main battery breaker , and held down both horizontal opposing arrows (as in reboot mode) VMM as some call it.
I had my classic back up without a red led all the time ??

Got me & here , but that cured it ..
Thats all I got , good luck & SPD's are our friend !!

VT
Title: Re: Classic Lightning Damage
Post by: verdigo on April 02, 2016, 03:19:04 PM
Quote from: CDN-VT on April 01, 2016, 10:32:04 PM
Since Tom started it , I also had a weird start once , I re-powered up the classic and all was fine , I do have many SPD's .

With all off power breakers , classic is black lights ALL off , I hooked a alligator jumper's  between ground & power out and in , shorting all , I also pulled out the back up battery in the MNGP , left it overnight /4 hrs for me at that time.

I started it , , remove all dead outs alligator jumper's between power & gronds & insertered the MNGP back up cell, turned on main battery breaker , and held down both horizontal opposing arrows (as in reboot mode) VMM as some call it.
I had my classic back up without a red led all the time ??

Got me & here , but that cured it ..
Thats all I got , good luck & SPD's are our friend !!

VT

I did all of that except shorting the power and ground. We do that a lot with cars at my garage to get the computers un logic locked. I am going to do that right now. I will let you know if it works.  One other symptom it displays is (address 255 un-used) It does this every 30 seconds or so.

Title: Re: Classic Lightning Damage
Post by: verdigo on April 02, 2016, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: Westbranch on April 01, 2016, 12:42:11 PM
did you have any SPDs in use?  they would tell you if a hit happened....

Unfortunately no I did not. It won't be going back into operation without them at least on the combiner and the e-panel. 
Title: Re: Classic Lightning Damage
Post by: CDN-VT on April 02, 2016, 09:03:57 PM
OUCH !!!
Like Mr Tom said , Call Midnite & get it in for repair.
I run at least 2 SPD's per setup on a grid & one for sure on a three back woods emergency bunk & eat cabins , outside library is flash light , till this year .

VT
Title: Re: Classic Lightning Damage
Post by: verdigo on April 03, 2016, 12:43:06 AM
Already made the call. Waiting on a call back now. Hoping it is repairable.