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Title: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on June 20, 2023, 03:57:22 PM
Is there any simple web access yet to see the Hawke's Bay controler on line or in a local app?..

I love the MyMidnite2.com to see all the Classic's in one view. also Using the local app I love having all the data combined. I hope the HB's data can combine with the classic too.
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: ClassicCrazy on June 20, 2023, 06:12:27 PM
No , nothing yet that I have heard about.

Larry
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: boB on June 20, 2023, 06:14:48 PM
No My Midnite access to the HB but one of our Comboxes (ComBoard) can let you remotely view it if you can port forward. 

Otherwise, it will be limited to your local LAN until we add capability to view without port forwarding.

For example, T-Mobile or Starlink will not allow you to port forward, yet at least.

boB
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: LilMT on June 20, 2023, 06:50:40 PM
Just an update on the Starlink side of stuff (recently got an email on new offerings)

Apparently, they will now office a public facing IP. (of course, it costs more and that is dependent on your local etc.)

In my local it would more than double my price so for me at least at this time is not worth the extra cost.  Maybe someday.
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: ClassicCrazy on June 20, 2023, 07:43:17 PM
Quote from: boB on June 20, 2023, 06:14:48 PMNo My Midnite access to the HB but one of our Comboxes (ComBoard) can let you remotely view it if you can port forward. 

Otherwise, it will be limited to your local LAN until we add capability to view without port forwarding.

For example, T-Mobile or Starlink will not allow you to port forward, yet at least.

boB

If the data output could be also be in MQTT format it would be easy to forward this around or use it locally too.
Larry
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: boB on June 20, 2023, 09:49:05 PM

LiMiT  I had heard of the more expensive version of Star Link.  Double cost is too much.
Maybe some day IP V6  will work and then there will be enough IP addresses available.


Larry,  MQTT  may very well be possible because the Com box works in Linux and so anybody that is savvy can work with it.

There are other ways to get around this too, I'm sure.

boB
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: ClassicCrazy on June 20, 2023, 10:27:06 PM
Quote from: boB on June 20, 2023, 09:49:05 PMLiMiT  I had heard of the more expensive version of Star Link.  Double cost is too much.
Maybe some day IP V6  will work and then there will be enough IP addresses available.


Larry,  MQTT  may very well be possible because the Com box works in Linux and so anybody that is savvy can work with it.

There are other ways to get around this too, I'm sure.

boB

And what is the status of the combox ? Last I heard it was going some different direction ?
Larry
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: boB on June 21, 2023, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: ClassicCrazy on June 20, 2023, 10:27:06 PMAnd what is the status of the combox ? Last I heard it was going some different direction ?
Larry

We are going to be making these for now.

New PCBs are on their way !

boB
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on June 21, 2023, 03:50:36 PM
boB
Quote from: boB on June 20, 2023, 06:14:48 PMOtherwise, it will be limited to your local LAN until we add capability to view without port forwarding.

How can I view it on local LAN? Can I see the HB on my local app or local on my PC?
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: ClassicCrazy on June 21, 2023, 11:27:05 PM
bryahan
It won't ever work with the present Local Status app because that communicates via modbus and the new Midnite controllers and inverter are communicating on Canbus.
Larry
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: boB on June 21, 2023, 11:39:10 PM

The new equipment, that is, Rosie, Hawkes Bay and Barcelona are CANBUS and talk to the Combox.

The Classic will also talk to the Combox. So that will all work over your local LAN.  Eventually we will find a way to get around the port forwarding problem with the ISPs that don't allow it now.

The Rosie, HB and Barcelona will not be able to talk to My Midnite unfortunately.  The MM system is totally designed ONLY for the Classic.  That is how it gets around the port forwarding issue.  By calling out to the MM server kind of like a web browser does.  No port forwarding needed for that.

It is difficult to make a system like the My Midnite system.

boB
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on June 22, 2023, 10:48:46 AM
So as I understand there is no way to view my HB over LAN at this moment?

Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: ClassicCrazy on June 22, 2023, 11:12:25 AM
Quote from: bryhan67 on June 22, 2023, 10:48:46 AMSo as I understand there is no way to view my HB over LAN at this moment?


No
only via the MNGP2
Larry
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: FNG on June 24, 2023, 04:41:01 AM
Anyone that is interested in the combox that is local access please email me ryan@midnitesolar.com We are building a batch in a few weeks and will for sure want to get our crew here hooked up
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Vic on June 24, 2023, 05:50:35 PM
WOW!!   This sounds great!  Thanks,  Vic
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on July 03, 2023, 03:22:12 PM
Quote from: FNG on June 24, 2023, 04:41:01 AMAnyone that is interested in the combox that is local access please email me ryan@midnitesolar.com We are building a batch in a few weeks and will for sure want to get our crew here hooked up

I have sent a few emails on this/ Looks like its still un read. Maybe in your spam flolder. I would love to try a combox for the HB
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: ClassicCrazy on July 03, 2023, 06:20:37 PM
Quote from: bryhan67 on July 03, 2023, 03:22:12 PM
Quote from: FNG on June 24, 2023, 04:41:01 AMAnyone that is interested in the combox that is local access please email me ryan@midnitesolar.com We are building a batch in a few weeks and will for sure want to get our crew here hooked up

I have sent a few emails on this/ Looks like its still un read. Maybe in your spam flolder. I would love to try a combox for the HB
I think they said they will be getting the pcbs for the combox soon , don't think they have them put together yet. Plus there is probably some vacation time happening now too.
Larry
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: FNG on July 06, 2023, 11:42:16 AM
Quote from: ClassicCrazy on July 03, 2023, 06:20:37 PM
Quote from: bryhan67 on July 03, 2023, 03:22:12 PM
Quote from: FNG on June 24, 2023, 04:41:01 AMAnyone that is interested in the combox that is local access please email me ryan@midnitesolar.com We are building a batch in a few weeks and will for sure want to get our crew here hooked up

I have sent a few emails on this/ Looks like its still un read. Maybe in your spam flolder. I would love to try a combox for the HB
I think they said they will be getting the pcbs for the combox soon , don't think they have them put together yet. Plus there is probably some vacation time happening now too.
Larry
Sorry I havent responded to all the emails I am waiting for a dock date on the PCBs and then an available date from planning. I expect late next week to be reaching out and also will be creating a section on the forum this week so Wizbandit can start asking questions and molding things as we progress
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on August 03, 2023, 01:27:35 PM
Any updates on web access for beta testing? Ive been pushing my Hawkes bay to 100% every day and its been working great.

I truly hope there is a way to see the PV watts coming in from all my classic's and added to the Hawkes bay numbers. Watts in would be most important. I love so much that I can see all 4 of my classics data on one screen. Maybe a custom app could be made to combine data from both.
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: boB on August 03, 2023, 05:41:43 PM
Quote from: bryhan67 on August 03, 2023, 01:27:35 PMAny updates on web access for beta testing? Ive been pushing my Hawkes bay to 100% every day and its been working great.

I truly hope there is a wat to see the PV watts coming in from all my classis and added to the Hawkes bay numbers. Watts in would be most important. I love so much that I can see all 5 of my classics data on one screen. Maybe a custom app could be made to combine data from both.


Who is your internet  ISP, Bryhan ?

boB
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on August 03, 2023, 08:08:05 PM
Starlink in USA
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Wizbandit on August 04, 2023, 12:37:14 PM
I have been working on optimizing the modules, removing development, debug & logging code.  I reworked the Classic module to try an optimize it, have been testing it but not sure I like it yet, may try another way. I had to rebuild the OS from sctrach to update Linux & Python to the newest versions.  That is done, had to install a bunch of drivers, get the CAN system up and running and test for stability.

I have Hawkes Bay, Barcelona and Rosie code running in test mode now.  The present code only supports (1) HB and (1) BAR and (2) Rosies.  The Classic code only supports (4) Classics using ethernet and TCP, serial is going to be added when I get the rest tuned.  If the optimizations free up more CPU time I "might" be able to add another Classic.

Ryan should be adding the COMBOX Support Forum soon.  I'll keep updating progress as I can...
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on August 04, 2023, 03:20:25 PM
Quote from: Wizbandit on August 04, 2023, 12:37:14 PMI have been working on optimizing the modules, removing development, debug & logging code. 


Good stuff, At my place I have 4-6 Air conditioners running depending the temp and solar output. So I constantly and watching my data and start turning on and off each AC unit. Havvie that single view of everything would be great.
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Wizbandit on August 04, 2023, 03:37:21 PM
Well, you're really going to like the little hardware daughter board I have built in between writing COMBOX Code.  It was designed on a Raspberry Pi3 but might run on the COMBOX if I get around to testing it. It has 4 AC voltage input channels and 10 120A AC current transformer channels (CT's) that can monitor AC power.  I might need to drop it back to 2 AC voltage and 6 AC CT's.  Might not have enough CPU to run.  Once you have AC voltages, AC currents and power factors you can calculate all kinds of AC Power data.

FYI - The COMBOX Forum section is open now...
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on September 19, 2023, 10:56:37 AM
Quote from: FNG on June 24, 2023, 04:41:01 AMAnyone that is interested in the combox that is local access please email me ryan@midnitesolar.com We are building a batch in a few weeks and will for sure want to get our crew here hooked up

Hows the combox coming? Anything we can beta test?
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: boB on September 19, 2023, 01:18:05 PM
Quote from: bryhan67 on September 19, 2023, 10:56:37 AM
Quote from: FNG on June 24, 2023, 04:41:01 AMAnyone that is interested in the combox that is local access please email me ryan@midnitesolar.com We are building a batch in a few weeks and will for sure want to get our crew here hooked up

Hows the combox coming? Anything we can beta test?

Soon I hope.  We are doing some other improvements to the Barcelona otherwise so it's all still in progress

boB
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on March 27, 2024, 02:18:26 PM
Its been 6 months is there any web access yet for the Hawke's Bay ?
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Wizbandit on April 04, 2024, 04:05:36 PM
I just received a rev "G" of the COMBOX circuit board last week.  I need to finish one more modification to add a 9V battery to support "safe shutdown".  Can't release any without the safe shutdown, I have crashed 3 COMBOXs from Linux file system corruptions in the last month, you think you got away with a accidental power-down but the errors in the file system compound over time and it then just crashes hard. I don't work at any of the Midnite buildings, I work from home 3000 miles away.  I had to pack up my electronics shop for remodeling and all my parts are in totes.  I can't find some parts I need to complete the hardware changes.  Add that to working in the tech support department and that leaves little time for working on the COMBOX project. Still working on some minor code issues but the big tasks are done and working fine, so far...
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on June 04, 2024, 01:46:45 PM
Any updates on for a simple web access for the Hawke's Bay?
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Wizbandit on June 07, 2024, 01:08:39 PM
Quote from: bryhan67 on June 04, 2024, 01:46:45 PMAny updates on for a simple web access for the Hawke's Bay?

Still working on it... Some more COMBOX issues have come up, with the high heat days now, the COMBOX case has no vents and the CPU is running HOT like in the 70-90's C and the SD Memory card does not function that hot and crashes. So, I'm working on some cooling vents, adding a small fan and sourcing some industrial Micro SD memory cards which run about $25 for 16GB, ouch.  I will be adding a 9V battery to backup the system during power outages and/or power-off's.
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: boB on June 07, 2024, 07:09:09 PM

We could add a little fan in there
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: ClassicCrazy on June 07, 2024, 10:00:00 PM
If it is an external combox , I don't understand why it is getting so hot.
I think it was said that a Banana Pi is being used ?  I watch a lot of videos by Explaining Computers and Jeff Gerling and they both test out various cases for the Raspberry Pi's , some  with fans and some are passive heatsinked to metal case. They do various stress tests on them and record all the temps.
I am surprised it gets so hot - maybe that Banana Pi just isn't up to the task ?
Larry
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: boB on June 08, 2024, 05:02:45 PM

Hey, I watch that YT channel too !

No, it's an Orange Pi.  Jim is in Florida so maybe that has something to do with it ?

Even Raspberri PI's have fans though.  Mine here in AZ does anyway.

boB
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: bryhan67 on December 10, 2024, 04:47:21 PM
Any update on web access or APP to Hawke's Bay?
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Wizbandit on December 10, 2024, 08:31:44 PM
Quote from: bryhan67 on December 10, 2024, 04:47:21 PMAny update on web access or APP to Hawke's Bay?

The MNCOMBOX project was cancelled due to lack of resources...
Monitoring was turned over to Solar Assistant.
https://solar-assistant.io/
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: FNG on December 11, 2024, 06:40:06 AM
We have been working with Solar Assistant and am happy to announce that they have basically finished the monitoring portion of the project. They anticipated releasing it as Beta Monday or Tuesday, I will check on that. They will then move on to full control etc
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Brucey on December 11, 2024, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: FNG on December 11, 2024, 06:40:06 AMWe have been working with Solar Assistant and am happy to announce that they have basically finished the monitoring portion of the project. They anticipated releasing it as Beta Monday or Tuesday, I will check on that. They will then move on to full control etc

That's great news. Perfect timing as I'm about to put a hawkes bay 90a into action. Waiting for conformation on which USB cable to buy along with the SA pi, their store has a canbus one but needs terminating, for rs485 they have one pre terminated for deye/solark etc.

https://solar-assistant.io/shop

Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Brucey on December 20, 2024, 02:09:44 PM
Beta support is up for Solar Assistant, I emailed them to ask which USB cable to get:

https://solar-assistant.io/help/updates/changelog
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: ClassicCrazy on December 20, 2024, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: Brucey on December 20, 2024, 02:09:44 PMBeta support is up for Solar Assistant, I emailed them to ask which USB cable to get:

https://solar-assistant.io/help/updates/changelog
let  us know how it goes and which cable they suggest.
Larry
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Brucey on December 23, 2024, 05:50:03 AM
Quote from: ClassicCrazy on December 20, 2024, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: Brucey on December 20, 2024, 02:09:44 PMBeta support is up for Solar Assistant, I emailed them to ask which USB cable to get:

https://solar-assistant.io/help/updates/changelog
let  us know how it goes and which cable they suggest.
Larry
It's the canbus cable:

"You will need a can bus usb cable:https://solar-assistant.io/shop/products/can_usb_self_crimp. The display has 2 canbus ports and they chain together with a terminator at each end. SolarAssistant replaces one of those terminators."

They included a picture but not sure how to upload from Android.
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: FNG on December 23, 2024, 07:21:12 AM
Here is a quick PDF I put together
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Brucey on December 23, 2024, 07:37:30 AM
Quote from: FNG on December 23, 2024, 07:21:12 AMHere is a quick PDF I put together
Perfect thanks the photo SA support sent was a little fuzzy this clears it up completely.
Title: Re: Status of web access to Hawke's Bay
Post by: Brucey on December 28, 2024, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: FNG on December 23, 2024, 07:21:12 AMHere is a quick PDF I put together
So I terminated the usb to canbus cable as pictured. However when I plug into either end of the canbus chain (either "in front" of the mngp2 or after the Rosie) the system acts like it's unterminated, i,e mngp2 doesn't see an inverter, and solar assistant just sits with "connecting" when you click on the connect button. Running latest available beta firmware on Rosie and mngp2.