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Title: [Closed]. Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Lya72 on July 10, 2012, 05:47:52 AM
Hello,

Where can i find the screws bag in the packaging of a 200 Classic?

I am looking especially the screws to secure the MNGP on the Classic.

If these screws have been forgotten during assembly, could you tell me their diameter, length and pitch, so I try to buy them here in France.

Also thank you to tell me the list of all the included screws in this bag.

Thank you in advance.

Yann
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Halfcrazy on July 10, 2012, 10:56:00 AM
The MNGP should be attached to the Classic when it is shipped. There is 4 small stainless screws in the 4 corners of the back half of the MNGP plastic case holding it on? Are you saying your complete MNGP was not screwed to the Classic from the factory?

There is no bag of screws that ships with the Classic.

Ryan

Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: SolarMusher on July 10, 2012, 11:31:36 AM
Salut Yann,
L'écran du MNGP est juste clippé sur le contrôleur, tu peux l'enlever et le remettre délicatement à la main. Les vis dont parle Ryan sont celles qui fixent l'écran au contrôleur. Il n'y a pas de vis livrées avec le contrôleur.
A+
Erik
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Lya72 on July 10, 2012, 02:10:36 PM
Hi,

First of all, thanks for the rapid answer.

Yes, my MNGP wasn't attach to the Classic body with the 4 screws.

Yes, i am searching information on these stainless screws, or i will wait for a sent because the MNGP is  attached with the data cable.

PS1 :  as said on a sheet in my package, "my controller is one of the first off the production line" (2Q2012) so i understand this little problem.

PS2 :  Thanks to SolarMusher for the dedicated answer in french.

Yann
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Vic on July 10, 2012, 02:24:25 PM
As I recall,  the MNGP module with the LCD display and buttons pushes into a holder.  IIRC,  friction holds the MNGP itself into the holder.  The HOLDER is held in place with the four screws.  This is from memory -- no Classic here to look at.

My recollection may be defective.   Vic
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: SolarMusher on July 10, 2012, 02:26:19 PM
Salut Yann,
Essayes de poster une photo qu'on puisse se rendre compte.
A+,
Erik
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Lya72 on July 10, 2012, 02:40:23 PM
I expect to be more precise in this message.

Don't hesitate to recall if needed.

My MNGP is independant of the Classic body where i can see the four holes.

For me, the MNGP is the electronic part including the LCD display where is also sitting the battery, where you must remove a paper, to activate it.

After that, i plug the speaker and clipped the front plastic cover on the MNGP, and searched the screws to fix it on the Classic metal body.

That all.

Yann
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: SolarMusher on July 10, 2012, 04:59:16 PM
Salut Yann,
Je ne vois vraiment pas de quoi tu parles... Le MNGP (plastic cover) n'est pas fixé avec des vis, il est juste clippé. C'est le circuit board en arrière qui est fixé avec 4 vis à la face avant du Classic. Cette face avant est ensuite fixée au corps du Classic avec 4 vis pour le fermer.
Est ce que tu veux dire que le circuit board du MNGP n'est pas fixé à la face avant du Classic? Ce serait étonnant.
Est ce que tu ne serait pas plutôt en train de parler des 4 vis qui fixent la face avant du Classic au corps principal? A ce moment là, le Classic est livré complètement monté et fixé avec ces 4 vis.
Envoies une photo, sinon ça va être dur de se comprendre...
A+
Erik
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Lya72 on July 10, 2012, 05:24:19 PM
Yes Erik (Même si c'est étonnant, tu as parfaitement compris),

The circuit board of the MNGP wasn't fixed to the Classic Front metal body with his 4 screws !!


Yann
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Lya72 on July 10, 2012, 05:31:51 PM
With an image, because my posts remains obscurs :

(http://www.mysolarserver.com/resources/MNGP_No_screws2.jpg)

Yann
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: SolarMusher on July 10, 2012, 06:39:15 PM
Salut Yann,
A ta place je demanderais à mon dealer un autre Classic 200, si les vis sont manquantes qui sait quelles autre surprises tu peux avoir à l'usage en le conservant. Ton contrôleur n'est pas supposé d'être livré comme ça.
C'est juste l'opinion d'un gars qui n'a rien à voir avec Midnite...
A+,
Erik
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Lya72 on July 11, 2012, 02:12:37 AM
Hi Erik,

I acquired this controller from the official dealer in Spain, before returning to home in France.

Who is in charge of the support after buying ( the dealer or Midnite) ??

My need was to get quickly a MPPT controller,  because my PWM controller was driving my batteries too high in voltage (37V panels with 24V batteries). Secondly, i choose a Midnite Classic because the USB/Ethernet reporting was integrated.

Help needed, by PM or in the forum.

PS : Erik, je continue l'échange en anglais, car c'est la langue principale de ce forum.
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Halfcrazy on July 11, 2012, 06:09:19 AM
I do am beside my self on that one. Trust me when I say the proper heads will be beaten together today  >:(

I will get you the size of the screw as soon as some one is in at MidNite to tell me the size. I can also send you the screws or if this came from Nigel he may have 4 screws there. Let me know what you prefer I do to make this rite.

Ryan

PS you can still use the controller and let the MNGP hang on the cable till I can get you the screw size or screws.
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: SolarMusher on July 11, 2012, 07:57:46 AM
Hi Yann,
If you need support on your Classic, you can ask this forum or your dealer (I think he's also on this forum). But I'm sure Ryan will find a solution to your problem. Support is one reason why people love midnite products. You didn't make a mistake in buying a Classic as it's one of the best MPPT controller at this time.
If you need further help in French, you can still contact me.
A+,
Erik
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Lya72 on July 11, 2012, 10:16:49 AM
Hi Ryan,

Before cutting heads, exploit the spirit juice, until the last drop.

- make a better quality check list.
- also, allow them a chance to catch up, by helping me when i will plug my Classic and my Synology NAS together to log datas.

For the screws, let me know rapidly their references as asked before (european notation will be better ) or send me 5, ASAP.
I dont want to ask for Nigel because the Classic was factory sealed, not opened to pick the  screws. ;))))


Yann

PS : Thanks for all, including Erik.
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Halfcrazy on July 11, 2012, 10:40:54 AM
The screws are 6-32 thread and are 3/8 of an inch long. I do not know how readily available these would be but if you like I can gladly send 5 out. Simply Email me ryan@midnitesolar.com with your contact info and Walter can get them out the door today.

Ryan
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Lya72 on July 11, 2012, 11:05:13 AM
OK Ryan,

The European equivalent may be difficult to find, so i sent an email.

Thanks for your support.

Yann
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: nigel on July 12, 2012, 11:02:24 AM
Hi Yann Ive spoken to Ryan and the screws are all ready on there way, Enjoy your Classic.

Nigel 
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Lya72 on July 16, 2012, 01:00:14 PM
Hi Nigel,

Present before and after the deal, it's a mark of professionnalism !!!

After a lot of fests and a few days of work, my Classic is producing since yesterday afternoon (15 july - 15:15 ).

I'm now in the manuals, to understand some things....

Yann
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: laszlo on July 16, 2012, 10:24:59 PM
Actually, there is also a rubber  flap (rectangular) that goes between the  MNGP and the chassis  that seems to be missing from the photo. It has a hole for the short network cable to pass thru. Yann -- do you have that? It's probably not critical but maybe there is a reason for it. My Classic I am using the MNGP in a remote location so MNGP is not mounted on the chassis so  I turned this rubber flap upside down so that there is is no hole for bugs to climb through.
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: boB on July 17, 2012, 03:32:21 AM
Quote from: laszlo on July 16, 2012, 10:24:59 PM
Actually, there is also a rubber  flap (rectangular) that goes between the  MNGP and the chassis  that seems to be missing from the photo. It has a hole for the short network cable to pass thru. Yann -- do you have that? It's probably not critical but maybe there is a reason for it. My Classic I am using the MNGP in a remote location so MNGP is not mounted on the chassis so  I turned this rubber flap upside down so that there is is no hole for bugs to climb through.

Those old rubbery flaps were there originally because there was some excess power coat paint in there that made for
a difficult fit of the MNGP into that recessed area.  It shouldn't be needed anymore and maybe the Classic in the picture
was a newer one.

boB
Title: Re: Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: nigel on July 17, 2012, 08:45:06 AM
If this helps for the future  Serial Number  CLO2707

Nigel
Title: [Closed] Classic 200 MNGP assembly
Post by: Lya72 on July 24, 2012, 12:47:53 AM
Hello,

The screws posted at Arlington on Jul 16, were received in France in July, the 23 and immediatly installed.

Thanks for your support.

Yann