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General Category => System Design and Layout => Topic started by: 225lakesidedrse@gmail.com on July 28, 2024, 11:08:18 AM

Title: Inverter pass through for whole home battery backup system. -Please advise.
Post by: 225lakesidedrse@gmail.com on July 28, 2024, 11:08:18 AM
We're just starting to design our first system, and have landed on a "whole home" battery backup with hybrid inverter. Our goals:

We're in Michigan, and our lot has a lot of tree coverage, so solar is a secondary.

In addition to all the other research, I've read through this article a few times.
200 amp vs. 100 amp Inverter pass through By Robin Gudgel, MidNite Solar Read Robins Article On 200A Passthroughs: link to the article here (https://www.midnitesolar.com/pdfs/200_amp_inverter_thoughts_(2).pdf)  The new MN15-12KW-AIO All In One seems interesting as it might help with some automatic load shedding.

Questions we're working through:
Title: Re: Inverter pass through for whole home battery backup system. -Please advise.
Post by: Wizbandit on July 28, 2024, 12:06:15 PM
I briefly glanced at the ticket you submitted to support. I have a few answers.

The MN-ONE AIO can not be directly connect to the grid like from the meter to the AIO without a suitable disconnect and over-current protection device.  Disconnect OCP disconnect devices MUST be Listed and approved to be used as such.  They will have usually a UL STICKER that says "Suitable for use as service disconnect equipment" or something similar.  The MN-ONE does not have this service listing.

There is no "Built-in" Inverter BYPASS.  If the inverter quits you have to do a bunch of re-wiring to get AC IN to AC OUT working after you remove it.  You will need a 100 amp external by-pass/transfer switch system if you want to be able to bypass the MN-ONE AIO.
Title: Re: Inverter pass through for whole home battery backup system. -Please advise.
Post by: 225lakesidedrse@gmail.com on July 31, 2024, 08:38:43 AM
I've landed on a design from the EG418kPV Manual p34 "Whole Home Backup with Feeder Tap" configuration.

https://eg4electronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/EG4-18KPV-12LV-Manual-1.pdf

There are benefits to this kind of config, along with extra costs.  We're running this by our electrician and local inspector.

This design includes a bypass switch for inverter maintenance.


Title: Re: Inverter pass through for whole home battery backup system. -Please advise.
Post by: 225lakesidedrse@gmail.com on July 31, 2024, 08:42:46 AM
This "Feeder Tap" approach seems to have the benefit of not being dependent on your main panel's bus rating  as  the "Backfed Breaker" approach is, which can be more risky (in the EG4 18K Manuel pp31 see the note on "Permitted Combinations of Main Breaker Ratings and Main Bus Ratings .)

Here's the related code 705.12 Load-Side Source Connections https://up.codes/s/load-side-source-connections