After initial install I could get data snapshots, but not all data, and see chart data remotely, but could NOT read/set parameters remotely.
If you have this problem trying to read/set remotely via MidNite Pro App or online http://service.midnitepower.com/#/monitor/GlobalSN?SN= when clicking on BasicOperations>Remote Setting , it *may be* because you have not done a firmware upgrade.
The MN15-AIO inverter ships with version 020001 firmware, and will work out of the box, and accept parameters set locally, but won't show info for AFCI version, Modbus version, wifi module version, or wifi signal.... and will NOT allow "remote" tweaking once you are off site. It is highly recommended that you update the firmware BEFORE completing installation and settings since you have to put the unit on and off standby and turn power all the way off and on to take effect.
[update 2/2/25] After many emails, calls, and replies to this thread.... it is looking like the AIO firmware MUST be update to version 6.x or later to work right.
This is easiest to do locally when you have a solid wifi signal, and the wifi router is powered on a circuit that won't lose power when you put the inverter on standby (turning OFF the output Load power). I finally got a chance to do this, and have added the procedure here:
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[update 3/25/25] - steps to updating firmware from shipped version 6
- obtain update files from MNS
1. G9514-100105-01_020200.bin loader, takes a minute to upload, and several minutes to run
2. G9514-100100-03_020600.bin for MNS-AIO v 6
3. G9514-100104-03_020601.bin
4. SS1058_20016x2_0517_m.bin for powerflo-15
- prepare folder with update files on a (PC) laptop.
- verify that modem/wi-fi is on secure power that will not go down when MNS-AIO is put on standby
- put MNS-AIO in standby (turn off output), by phone app, or button on left side is easiest
- verify access to inverter via website http://service.midnitepower.com/
installer accnt <installer>
<installer password>
user inverter SN= xxxx-xxxxxxxxPH
- click on "tools" icon, far right, under "operation" column
- under "Basic Operation"
click button > Upgrade Device, opens dialog
click button > Select File, opens folder explorer on local laptop.
navigate to update folder and select and upload files, in order, "200" first
The whole process is incredibly slow and can take an hour or more
200
600
601
SS1058_20016x2_0517_m
- followup: power down, power up, check settings...
- turn off MNS-AIO, and batteries for 10 minutes
- batteries on, batt dc breaker on, MNS-AIO on
- check all programming settings... some may have been overwritten during updates
- output power to Load back on
So is this portal only available to distributors? If an end user bought the MN15 and DIY installed it, would they have access to this portal?
Quote from: goldserve on January 22, 2025, 04:32:56 PMSo is this portal only available to distributors? If an end user bought the MN15 and DIY installed it, would they have access to this portal?
there is the End User portal at view.midnitesolar.com , or the Midnite Pro phone app
all *should* work to view/set/monitor... but as far as I can tell, only the remote "view" capabilities are working for the one I installed yesterday. I had to use "local" bluetooth and phone app to commission and adjust settings on site.
I spoke to Rick this morning (1/23/25).... Midnite has a server-side issue they are working on, but read/set functionality is probably down until they get it squared away.
Cool. Any ETA on any new Firmware and server side improvements to fix the production reporting bug?
no ETA, but the MN support says they will post to this thread, and/or let me know.
Ive been having a lot of issues with a new offgrid I installed a couple weekends ago. Rick and I have spent way too much time on the phone. We spoke about the remote access and service server, he said we could look at 45-60 days for the new app and server.
...I found out that the firmware shipped with the AIO is not "fully compatible" with Monitoring/maintenance portal software. Problem now is that since the wifi is powered on a backed up circuit, I cannot put the AIO in standby and update remotely...
so, I am attempting to get step-by-step on how/where to download the firmware update, drive back out to client site, put their system in standby, and install the firmware update.
I gotta say, I am not happy that firmware updates cannot be done remotely.
I don't quite follow the dongle issue but I heard from somewhere a new dongle will be provided to fix this issue? Is that true?
no, it is not a dongle issue, and will not require a replacement.
at this time, it is looking like the MN15 AIO ship with an "old" version of firmware that is not full compatible with the latest versions of the phone app or online portal. Specifically the Read/set remote capabilities over wifi.
what I have also learned so far is that since the MN15 has to be put in "standby" (turned off) before clicking on the "upgrade firmware" button for cloud update; you MUST have the wifi powered up separately, either from the grid, or a portable power supply, for the duration of the update.....
OR if wifi/cell hotspot is not available, you must have an "Installer Updater", firmware files, and a PC .
How was I able to get Midnite updated my inverter from the shipping rev 2 firmware then? I'm on rev 6 now so that means the limitations have been fixed?
Quote from: goldserve on January 29, 2025, 11:58:06 PMHow was I able to get Midnite updated my inverter from the shipping rev 2 firmware then? I'm on rev 6 now so that means the limitations have been fixed?
I have no idea what your configuration is or what level of firmware you are at.
In my case I cannot update my client remotely because the Wi-Fi router is powered off the backup subpanel. So the power would get turned off when I put the inverter in standby. I have to physically go out there and power the router to obtain the update
Okay, that makes sense then. I have my whole network and wifi router on backup but also UPS. Now thinking about it, I did bypass my backed-up loads using a manual transfer switch before any firmware upgrades. I guess that is a good practice to install.
Quote from: goldserve on January 30, 2025, 11:54:20 AMOkay, that makes sense then. I have my whole network and wifi router on backup but also UPS. Now thinking about it, I did bypass my backed-up loads using a manual transfer switch before any firmware upgrades. I guess that is a good practice to install.
yes, a bypass switch when grid-tied power is available is a good thing... I'd be curious to see a picture of where you put your bypass. Can you post one ?
I have a little standalone power-pack that I will bring out to client site to power the wifi during update, but it will require a physical trip which is an hour drive plus time on site I was not counting on.