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Title: OLD REPLACED BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 03:14:30 PM
OLD REPLACED

MidNite Solar Beta Revision 1339
Beta Released 2-22-2013
Windows firmware GUI  http://fusion.midnitesolar.com/MidNiteSolarSetup_2-22-2013_v3.68.exe (http://fusion.midnitesolar.com/MidNiteSolarSetup_2-22-2013_v3.68.exe)
RELEASE NOTES:

If you are using Classic Lites with serial numbers lower than 5435 with Classics for "Follow Me" you will need to leave the MNLP (LED display) Unplugged. You can contact us at customer service for a replacement MNLP.

Revision 1339, Released 2-22-2013 Includes:

*Fixed Double data entries for a single day
*Fixed DHCP
*Fixed the Bug where the IP address was not saved when written from the Local App

If you are updating from anything earlier than the 12-11-12 Rev 1181 code it would be a good idea to do a "Factory Restore" or a "Quick Start" after updating to this code revision by first turning the battery and solar power to the Classic off. Next, turn the battery power back on while holding the Left and Right arrows. Hold the arrows until the first "Solar, Wind or Hydro" screen pops up. Follow the on screen prompts and continue setup. Note: This will reset all settings to factory defaults. You will need to reset any custom settings such as Aux 1 and 2. You may want to write these settings down for reference prior to resetting the Classic.

Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Vern Faulkner on February 22, 2013, 05:19:42 PM
Does this include new MNGP code? I updated both, but when I restarted the machine (150), the MNGP read out the old 2012 MNGP date (1181?) ... I'm pushing an MNGP update again, just in case something went FUBAR.
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 05:21:10 PM
yes the old MNGP code is still valid it will be MNGP REV 1042 12/11/2013

Ryan
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Vern Faulkner on February 22, 2013, 05:54:23 PM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 05:21:10 PM
yes the old MNGP code is still valid it will be MNGP REV 1042 12/11/2013

Ryan

Yeah, that's what I have... 1042 ... 12/11/2012

Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 05:59:20 PM
Sorry force of habit now  :o
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Vern Faulkner on February 22, 2013, 06:16:39 PM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on February 22, 2013, 05:59:20 PM
Sorry force of habit now  :o

So is editing. :)
Title: Error message
Post by: Vern Faulkner on February 23, 2013, 11:29:41 AM
Watching the charge coming in today, the end amps isn't going to float properly.

I have EA set to 4.7A. I watched the display for about three-five minutes. On three separate occasions, the outgoing amps were ranging from 3.5-4.2, and after the (approx) 90 seconds, the display came up with the message "unused address 255."

I plopped the 150 into a manual equalize setting for a minute or two, then turned the EQ off. This time, it sat in absorb for 90 minutes and dropped into float, but then, when/as I hit a button to go, again, to manual EQ, the same message popped up.

Can't replicate now, since the voltage is high enough to trigger float pronto.

Let me know what I can to do help...
Title: Re: Error message
Post by: boB on February 24, 2013, 01:07:36 AM
Quote from: Vern Faulkner on February 23, 2013, 11:29:41 AM
the display came up with the message "unused address 255."



Sounds kind of like it is set to address 255 instead of, like, address 10

You can put it back to 10 by holding down the left-arrow key and tapping the UP key until it says 10.
If 10 is the real Classic address, then the display will come up with values other than zeros.

To make the MNGP and Classic go and stay on another address, when you get to an address,
hold down the LEFT and RIGHT arrow keys until the display says that the address has been
changed to that address.

Address 255 is an address that talks to the Classic not matter what that Classic is
actually set to.   I guess if it's basically working on 255 though, that there isn't
really a need to change it so you might want to disregard all this.

boB
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: SolarVet on February 25, 2013, 12:14:40 AM
Any Clue when there will be a fix on the " Total Amp Hrs " . When logged into the Software from you computer it was off my 1 decimal point...Instead of having 2480 ah I have 248.0
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: boB on February 25, 2013, 02:09:38 AM
Quote from: SolarVet on February 25, 2013, 12:14:40 AM
Any Clue when there will be a fix on the " Total Amp Hrs " . When logged into the Software from you computer it was off my 1 decimal point...Instead of having 2480 ah I have 248.0


Uh Oh !   Did that one get missed in this latest beta or Local App ?

Will check into this one, pronto.  OK, tomorrow (Monday) at least.

boB
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 25, 2013, 09:14:44 AM
Quote from: SolarVet on February 25, 2013, 12:14:40 AM
Any Clue when there will be a fix on the " Total Amp Hrs " . When logged into the Software from you computer it was off my 1 decimal point...Instead of having 2480 ah I have 248.0

Can you be more specific? The Classic does not show total amp hours so I am not sure what you are seeing here? Is it the daily AH?

Ryan
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Lya72 on February 25, 2013, 01:19:45 PM
Hi Bob and Ryan,

In the LocalApp, there is the Data/Reports Screen that shows LifeTime Amps hours. Maybe, it's this screen.

Yann
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Resthome on February 25, 2013, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: Lya72 on February 25, 2013, 01:19:45 PM
Hi Bob and Ryan,

In the LocalApp, there is the Data/Reports Screen that shows LifeTime Amps hours. Maybe, it's this screen.

Yann
Yep that is the one that was off by a decimal point. But it's been fixed with the latest 3.17 of the Local App.
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: SolarVet on February 25, 2013, 03:18:57 PM
Well it would nice if it would update to 3.17..Mine keeps saying 3.10 and no update available.
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 25, 2013, 03:23:46 PM
0.3.17 is BETA not production. The Production App will Never Auto update to BETA. If you want to run the BETA version you need to manually install it from the link above. We do this so the normal user who does not want to help find and fix bugs will not be drug through the process. This is actually very common in the firmware industry.

Sorry for the confusion
Ryan
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: SolarVet on February 25, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Okay so the App is with the Beta Firmware Software ? I know what I am doing. I am just absent minded sometimes. And so well..You know genius's were always smart in one field...And bad in others lol.
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: boB on February 25, 2013, 03:46:54 PM
Quote from: SolarVet on February 25, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Okay so the App is with the Beta Firmware Software ? I know what I am doing. I am just absent minded sometimes. And so well..You know genius's were always smart in one field...And bad in others lol.


Yep.  That's the way it is unfortunately.   Master of none, ya know.  For me anyway.

boB
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 25, 2013, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: SolarVet on February 25, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Okay so the App is with the Beta Firmware Software ? I know what I am doing. I am just absent minded sometimes. And so well..You know genius's were always smart in one field...And bad in others lol.

No the first post in this thread has a BETA version of the APP.

This thread has a BETA version of the Classic code http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=1058.0 (http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=1058.0)
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: SolarVet on February 25, 2013, 04:09:47 PM
I would say yeah,,But there is no link showing up for it. Well I don't see anywhere.
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Westbranch on February 25, 2013, 04:15:55 PM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on February 25, 2013, 04:00:00 PM

No the first post in this thread has a BETA version of the APP.

This thread has a BETA version of the Classic code ]http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=1058.0 (http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=1058.0%5B/color)

Ryan the 'this thread ' has the same 'identifier' as the highlited one in red

???
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 25, 2013, 04:16:39 PM
Sorry I got it backwards this is the thread for BETA firmware for the Classic. It has a link in the very first post for that firmware.

The BETA Local APP version 0.3.17 can be found in this thread http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=1056.0 (http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=1056.0)
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Vern Faulkner on February 25, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Quote from: Halfcrazy on February 25, 2013, 03:23:46 PM
0.3.17 is BETA not production. The Production App will Never Auto update to BETA. If you want to run the BETA version you need to manually install it from the link above. We do this so the normal user who does not want to help find and fix bugs will not be drug through the process. This is actually very common in the firmware industry.

I have said, on more than one occasion, that I'm a beta model that someone forgot to update.
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Lya72 on February 26, 2013, 07:52:57 PM
Hi,

I confirm that's there is a problem with the Day production reset with this firmware.

This night, when I came back at home at 01:30AM, there already was a production for this new day of 0.3 Kwh, that was the précédent day production.

Yann
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 26, 2013, 07:57:14 PM
Yann
Can you check to make sure in the tweaks menu on the classic not the App that Insomnia is turned OFF?

I am not seeing the KWH not reset here on my 6 classics?

Ryan
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: boB on February 26, 2013, 08:38:57 PM

Also check in the Tweaks menu to make sure that Time Synch is ON
and that the clock is set correctly in the MISC/TIME menu.

boB
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Lya72 on February 27, 2013, 01:59:23 AM
Settings checked :

Insomnia is OFF

TmSynch is ON

Date is OK and Time is two minutes up, compared to my Iphone.

Yann
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: boB on February 27, 2013, 02:57:13 AM
Quote from: Lya72 on February 27, 2013, 01:59:23 AM
Settings checked :

Insomnia is OFF

TmSynch is ON

Date is OK and Time is two minutes up, compared to my Iphone.

Yann


OK, thanks for checking that.

Thinking some more...    Did you find out when the main status kW-Hours went back to zero  ???

It might not reset to zero and start the new day until the first wakeup after midnight.

Check to see that the Classic starts from zero in the morning after it first wakes up.

boB

Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 27, 2013, 04:16:44 PM
Ok after like a week of running this firmware all of a sudden all 4 of mine did this same thing last night. They all still have yesterdays KWH's

boB is aware of this and will dig into it. I am sure it is related to the logging stuff he was into and should not be to hard to find?

Ryan
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: boB on February 27, 2013, 07:19:15 PM
I think the problem happened during the double-triple-multiple data logging fix.

If so, this should be a fairly simple one..

This is why it's called beta I guess  ;D

boB
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Wxboy on February 28, 2013, 10:29:27 AM
Will this firmware correct the problem where the Local App does not actually enable or disable Insomnia mode anymore when you try to? I don't know if that is a LA firmware problem or Classic firmware issue. 
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Halfcrazy on February 28, 2013, 10:33:36 AM
No the insomnia issue is in the LA and Andrew has it fixed in the version he is working on now to release soon.

Ryan

Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Vern Faulkner on February 28, 2013, 03:46:51 PM
Today was pretty damned cloudy, but the machine says it pulled in 600 watt-hours. Snowing all day, logs show a high of 20 watts input at any one time, yet almost six hours of float.
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: boB on February 28, 2013, 03:59:28 PM
Quote from: Vern Faulkner on February 28, 2013, 03:46:51 PM
Today was pretty damned cloudy, but the machine says it pulled in 600 watt-hours. Snowing all day, logs show a high of 20 watts input at any one time, yet almost six hours of float.

Do you have a generator or some other charger connected to your battery and charging while you have
the cloudy weather ?

boB
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Vern Faulkner on February 28, 2013, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: boB on February 28, 2013, 03:59:28 PM
Do you have a generator or some other charger connected to your battery and charging while you have
the cloudy weather ?

boB

Nope. The logs correctly showed blurky weather, but the readouts said otherwise. Hey, that's beta softs, right?
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: boB on March 01, 2013, 12:49:50 AM
Quote from: Vern Faulkner on February 28, 2013, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: boB on February 28, 2013, 03:59:28 PM
Do you have a generator or some other charger connected to your battery and charging while you have
the cloudy weather ?

boB

Nope. The logs correctly showed blurky weather, but the readouts said otherwise. Hey, that's beta softs, right?


Might be the beta...    If it accumulated info from the previous day.  This beta has a 23:59 midnite rollover
bug.  Should have that fixed in a jiffy and another one out in a day or so.  Sorry.

boB
Title: Re: BETA Classic Code 2/22/2013 Rev 1339
Post by: Vern Faulkner on March 01, 2013, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: boB on March 01, 2013, 12:49:50 AM


Might be the beta...    If it accumulated info from the previous day.  This beta has a 23:59 midnite rollover
bug.  Should have that fixed in a jiffy and another one out in a day or so.  Sorry.

boB

I'm hardly distraught. As long as the whole thing keeps gathering free-range electrons... that's all that matters.