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Title: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 05, 2016, 09:59:04 PM
what ever happened to the old cartoons? is it now politically incorrect for kids to watch them? there were so many of them made and many are more entertaining than present day tv. i admit to not recognizing the ones on cartoon stations.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: TomW on December 05, 2016, 11:38:49 PM
I guess todays kids can't see Daffy get his head blown off by Elmer even though it rematerializes instantly.

Yeah the pap they serve today as cartoons is pathetic.

Modern stuff shows an unrealistic view of the world.

Times they are changing. Still got a few DVDs of the good old Warner Bros and Hanna Barberra toons in my DVD stash.

Welcome to the brainwashed era of the everyone wins, no keeping score childhood.

Not exactly sure how my generation survived. Competitive sports, no helmets or pads riding bikes, drank from the hose,  rode standing up in the front seat and multiple guns in every home. Makes you wonder what kind of generation this stuff today will spawn?

I rant.

Tom
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: Westbranch on December 05, 2016, 11:45:29 PM
we're seeing it in the incapacitation of a bruised ego of the 30 somethings, when they are told the truth ... watch that new comedy the Great Indoors...
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: grgdgreek on December 06, 2016, 12:58:20 AM
Quote from: TomW on December 05, 2016, 11:38:49 PM
I guess todays kids can't see Daffy get his head blown off by Elmer even though it rematerializes instantly.

Yeah the pap they serve today as cartoons is pathetic.

Modern stuff shows an unrealistic view of the world.

Times they are changing. Still got a few DVDs of the good old Warner Bros and Hanna Barberra toons in my DVD stash.

Welcome to the brainwashed era of the everyone wins, no keeping score childhood.

Not exactly sure how my generation survived. Competitive sports, no helmets or pads riding bikes, drank from the hose,  rode standing up in the front seat and multiple guns in every home. Makes you wonder what kind of generation this stuff today will spawn?

I rant.

Tom





+1
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: onanparts on December 06, 2016, 01:12:18 AM
Elmer hunts Wabbit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBAZidONziI
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: onanparts on December 06, 2016, 01:35:40 AM
Meep Meep!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiEzGEtMyuk
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: Westbranch on December 06, 2016, 02:22:42 AM
Now Where did dat waskawee Wabbit go?
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: mike90045 on December 06, 2016, 03:08:25 AM
The tunnels:   http://www.snopes.com/road-runner-tunnel-crash-rumor/
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 06, 2016, 05:33:50 PM
i should've realized u tube would have some, but u tube doesn't broadcast ota to kids today and they won't see them unless they specifically search for it. there were so many classics to be enjoyed that kids don't get to see. and it's true that much of these are better than most ota programs. saturday used to be a great day for ota cartoons in the morning and for awhile it went into the afternoon. i was also privy to after school cartoons ota. i didn't have cable and that wasn't available anyway when i was a kid in my hometown. i may have to watch a few and even search for a few others i haven't seen in about 40 years.

i almost feel sorry for gen x, the millennials, and the generation they are raising. these days they are so pampered and pc that they are walking constipated sphincters. notice too that not many are into renewables even though they say they're for it. here's a good question. have you hugged your pv today? if you have then you aren't into it as it should be in the air collecting rays. i know there are ground mounts too, but they are too busy cleaning the grass and weed clippings off of them to hug them. added- i forgot to add the removal of snow too. the point is we use it and they don't. notice most here are older?
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: russ_drinkwater on December 07, 2016, 02:47:21 PM
They are still available over here in the land down under.
My favourites as a kid was road runner!
That coyote took a licking that kill a meer mortal and keep coming back to prop up the shares of the "acme" company!
I still get a kick out of the puff of dust after a 2 kilometer drop when he hits the deck! :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
The absolute brain numbing twaddle coming out of japan is embarrassing!
Pokemon and a lot of other rubbish!
I draw the line at transformers.
Must admit I liked astro boy and a heap of the dc comics charcs as well.
Off topic but we are still watching occassional reruns of hogans heros!
Still good a laugh and no fbombs at all! :o ;D 8)
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 08, 2016, 04:51:12 AM
i'm glad to hear they are still ota someplace. i don't think i've seen these classics on my cable. yes, i have cable now because the wife likes it and she got me hooked on some cable channels. technically it's fiber optic cable. some things like hogans heros are still being rerun here, but on lesser definition ota stations. fine by me as i'll watch them.

there were some others that i'll have to look up like top cat and there was a rare one i used to see at drive-in theaters called vavoom. btw, the pink panther got its start in theaters too. hmmm, drive-in theaters are another thing many will not know the pleasure of. not too sure if you had them down under or not. sometimes progress is bad i guess like millennials buying everything online to cause brick and mortar stores to close.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: CDN-VT on December 08, 2016, 09:58:43 PM
Yosemite Sam has just been asked to clean house, and restore our western ways !



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eo0OY8GOuc
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 09, 2016, 04:37:56 AM
thumbs up to your post cdn-vt.

i was up late watching a few i found on u tube. brings back memories or is it senility? who cares as i'm enjoying them.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: CDN-VT on December 10, 2016, 01:07:26 AM
I'm so lucky my wife torrent input all the old classics .From say all B&W 1950's to date . thousands of show's , no cartoons , But I'll ask if she can.

Rather see real funny than all the crap today.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 10, 2016, 02:08:10 AM
the big question is why aren't they still running these cartoons over the air? they can still make and air the newer garbage, but that shouldn't stop the older stuff from being seen. i still get to see old movies and programs, so why not the older cartoons?
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: CDN-VT on December 10, 2016, 09:14:35 PM
YOU think too much , Please you need to take a DRUG to live in this world, and conform .
Let us think for you.

I'LL take your Cartoon's and stuff over all this new LBGSQY (GAY Crap ) BEING FORCED DOWN , on us , news to all ETC.
I know folks of the same who live in harmony , they are respective   couples .  Not for me , & two wives , not for me ( one is enough) , 3 kids with different moms , NOT for me.
Im no goodie , Single I'd be looking at your daughter, my choice has been made.

VT
I live it daily & smile at everyone & eyes up always !!!
I scare folks because they don't know how it WAS.

Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 12, 2016, 07:30:57 PM
i am guessing you're taking a stab at part of the crowd that invented political correctness and that includes, but isn't limited to the lbgt people. i suspect this is why they don't air them anymore and why new ones are so boring and drab. they take enjoyment out of the stuff now and ram their own standards down our throats. the political change is coming in a bit over a month, but people in hollywood are now part of the problem and i believe they will keep their pc ways. i've still not heard anything that addresses the actual reason or reasons for the non-airing of these shows when i can still see movies out of previous eras and even an occasional 3 stooges on cable. we are speculating, confused, and looking for an answer or at least i am. and we the more passing of the years i can understand why old people get grumpy, but what's being passed as normal these days is insanity. no room for the real cartoons as we're living in one.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: Westbranch on December 12, 2016, 08:19:12 PM
Think back to your history class .... and recall what the 'picture' in your mind was of the fall of the Roman Empire, .....

I suppose they rewrote that too.... revisionist history! 

Read the book  (by Peter De Rosa) The Vicars of Christ (the Pope) for a different look into history from the inside......
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: Halfcrazy on December 13, 2016, 05:20:36 AM
As a parent with a teenager in high school it is saddening to here what is being taught, Luckily my daughter is very strong minded and does her own research and forms her own opinion. (Even been known to start a good old debate with the teacher when she feels the teacher is out of line)

My take is the country has become to politically correct and I tend not to be a PC type person so it gets interesting at times :)
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: onanparts on December 13, 2016, 10:21:58 AM
Proud member of the politically incorrect!  8)

And now straight out of left field... ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjUV-byB8ls
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: TomW on December 13, 2016, 11:47:43 AM
Quote from: Westbranch on December 12, 2016, 08:19:12 PM
Think back to your history class .... and recall what the 'picture' in your mind was of the fall of the Roman Empire, .....

I suppose they rewrote that too.... revisionist history! 

Caution opinionated response follows.

I always thought The Romans failed due to lead pipes , debauchery, corruption  and probably most important incest in the ruling class.

I also thought dinosaurs were like reptiles but now they say they were more like birds.

But then, I wasn't there, for either.

You need to be flexible in your "convictions".

Saw a blurb on the local City Council minutes where someone wants to ban smoking in any areas in public view within the city limits to protect the children from bad examples such as myself, inside or out which would include my own propertty. The same person pushed through an ordinance to prohibit any local business from engaging in the medicinal Cannabis trade if it becomes legal in the state which is pretty unlikely to happen, anyway. 

WTF is up with these people? If you don't like it don't do it but remember your rights end where mine start and so on.

I should shut up now and go outside and have a smoke in the 4 degree F heat wave. Can't even smoke indoors anymore not even my own home! :o

Tom
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: Westbranch on December 13, 2016, 01:00:13 PM
Tom, I agree... I forgot about the lead pipes. Lead killed a lot of the early expeditions 'discovering' North America and the far North (ie Arctic NW Passage) too.

PC has gone far off the tracks it started on.  Soon they will probably strike the words Man and Woman  for ??? reason!

As far as cannabis, our Fed Gov is rapidly moving towards legalizing medical and personal use and growing.  This morning there was a news item stating there would be a 4 plant limit for personal use... If looked at from a harm reduction process it makes so much sense.  It will stop the need to spend oodles of $$$ on enforcement that has failed to stop its use...
So there is to be a minimum age limit of  (age of majority) 19.  But they don't want it to be sold with Liquor or cigarettes...???
At the same time there are prohibitions against cigarette smoking within 3 m (10 ft) of public buildings...??? 

I digress...  for a different delivery of L. Cohen's song Hallelujah , thanks to Onanparts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3V19imRHr4&index=9&list=RDBjUV-byB8ls
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: russ_drinkwater on December 13, 2016, 04:06:52 PM
Would probably find that some twisted fooker has decided the older cartoons encourages domestic violence!
That seems to be the latest craze in australia.
When I was nursing rural remote we were instructed to ask all female patients if their husbands were abusing them at interview!
Omg, I used that direction as a joke with most property owners wives! As one woman said to me and I quote "if my husband ever hit me I would the little bas_-rd senseless" and I believed her as she was an amazon! Too much interference at all levels and nose sticking into
areas of privacy. The newer brain numbing cartoons are probably designed to casterate the young boys and show the young girls they can be the dominant sex in the relationship! I am sure that will all work out fine! I try to get my boys to watch "thunderbirds" as well as as a kid they really got my brain wondering about what was to come with tech and machinery!
Society will collapse in a lot of countries from drugs, corruption, un-natural couples :), religious diffferences and general lowering of life standards! May not be our lifetimes, but cast your eyes around the streets or towns near where you will! It disappoints me and makes me worry for my younger sons.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 13, 2016, 04:17:03 PM
hmm. i guess my thread has blossomed a bit. that's ok as it shall go where it goes as i'm definitely not pc.

onan, i know hilary did not join in for if she had you'd have seen her continue downward on the dips. sorry to those of you that like her as i do not.

tom, as a former smoker i can relate to what you're saying. i have always found it odd that if one is smoking outside that you could be doing any harm. a bad example you may be, but this is america and we are supposed to be free to choose. there's plenty of gun toting gangstas (guns aren't legal for them either) that are bad examples too and they + islamic terrorists are ignored by the left. go figure. even vaping is not sold to minors because, "it's a bad example."

as to cannibus i don't care as long as they aren't running machinery or driving. basically, if they are doing anything that could endanger another person or their property as a result of their partying, that's doing it irresponsibly, but testing can't be done in the field and must be in a hospital.

i guess the cartoons of old they consider also to be a bad example. to me they're reaching beyond the scope that they should be. if bad examples are illegal then i can think of 1 sitting president and several dem presidential candidates that are also bad examples. even certain ball players aren't showing themselves as good examples. why do we draw the lines at these bad examples getting free passes? oh i see. it's only in their judgement and they dictate to us to do as they say and not as they do.

how's that for a rant?

i have to add the romans also died from stds. they weren't very monogamous.
i see russdrinkwater posted underneath me. wow, i started something here.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: mtdoc on December 13, 2016, 05:46:15 PM
Quote from: niel on December 12, 2016, 07:30:57 PM
i've still not heard anything that addresses the actual reason or reasons for the non-airing of these shows when i can still see movies out of previous eras and even an occasional 3 stooges on cable. we are speculating, confused, and looking for an answer or at least i am.

Niel, as the father of 2 young boys I can offer a reasonable guess:  They aren't aired because few would watch them. 

My kids have no interest in the cartoons I grew up with. I've showed them some on youtube - they ask a few questions then lose interest fast.    The cartoons they have wanted to watch are more fast paced - fighting, shooting, explosions, superheros, space wars, etc with more realistic violence or crude and with more sophisticated humor (even if much of it is over their head).   

I think it kind of mirrors the changes that have occurred in adult action films over the same time period. 

The fact that old movies and occasional 3 stooges,etc  are aired is because they're are still nostalgic older adults that watch them.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: CDN-VT on December 14, 2016, 12:07:26 AM
@MTdoc

I can see that logic with the kids .

I do the kettle canvas for Sally Ann & I take very helpful young ones (10-25 in age) and some are special touched.
Kid Magnets  :D for the elderly !

I do see the need to explain simple things sometimes so they will understand things. Everyone has there rights & sayings , I hear "Merry " & I reply the same , I hear "Happy  " the same reply , I hear "I've already"  reply with thanks & did we give you your treat ? I have candy canes / pens / car tissues & hugs for the few  ;).. and all get accounted in the shake down  :) , all types & flavors of folks .

If ya need help , this is a good organization .
(I don't do the church thing -ever)

WestBranch / Mr E .

A Canuk : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q

Neil & Russ , I agree .. Lets get our world back !!   

IT HAS STARTED @ the schools @ the BS they put out.
Snow days at a dusting etc..

Up here the hours are 09:30 - 14:30   me I was 08:00 -15:30  till I took Chef training & then @ 06:30 & a free breakfast & more credits .. I got into collage @ 15 yo .
WE were taught the hard work pays it forward !!


Tom
I smoked till ?   $6.00 a pack , I could not afford that , over beer / viagra See-Alice  ;) , so I gave it up (Hard as putting a pet down)  &  I can be around the chimneys and not have a crack out.. Im way over it now . The smoking  ladys  :)

West , Its 25 feet , we have cops that do that to make $$$$  on the business (another joke) .


Our rants , are a good release & a way for all us to understand & help

VT - Nig`

 

Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 14, 2016, 05:05:49 PM
mt doc, possibly, but i doubt it as fun is fun. it may be so with your kids in this case though. i too raised some youngsters and all liked them. they are a bit older as the youngest is going to be 40 next year. ugh, i'm getting old.

cdn-vt, at $6/pack is fairly recent. i hope you can keep away from them. i quit the day katrina wiped out new orleans and it was about $3/pack back then. i waited too long before quiting as i already did some damage. 30+ years too long and the only ones who benefited were the tobacco companies and the state with the high taxes they have on them and neither really want people to quit.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: RossW on December 14, 2016, 06:06:27 PM
Quote from: russ_drinkwater on December 13, 2016, 04:06:52 PM
That seems to be the latest craze in australia.

Recently, a sweets/lollies manufacturer just down the road from me lost a court battle and has had to change their logo of 25+ years or be prevented from continuing to advertise on television!

Can you spot the HIDEOUSLY OFFENSIVE component?
(http://www.beechworthsweetco.com.au/images/logo.jpg)

Someone (undisclosed who, but sounds like a SINGLE COMPLAINT) found the gollywog offensive and the court has ruled that this small business must spend umpty thousand bucks to have their adverts re-made and change their logo...

Political correctness? Even the TERM is offensive!
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: CDN-VT on December 14, 2016, 08:43:43 PM
Quote from: niel on December 14, 2016, 05:05:49 PM

cdn-vt, at $6/pack is fairly recent.
That was 1990 or so in Canada when I quit .
In the aviation area smoke is not allowed or in the .MIL life before , I have no idea why i got hooked .

I had to  google up the golliwog to make sure the was the black faced doll .

In South Africa they had a show on there TV called the "Coconuts "  Black on the outside , white on the inside. Kinda like the Jefferson's  ... It was funny to the folks who lived there , I didn't get it. watched many .

I like the Jetsons  Mr Neil ..
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 15, 2016, 04:00:27 AM
the jetsons was a good one too. the flintstones were good as well. most looney tunes were great. foghorn leghorn comes first to my mind among many.

if you quit in 1990 then you are mistaken as to the cost per pack. i imagine somewhere around $1.50 to $2.00 per pack, but that may be high too. i just can't remember that time period that accurately on costs. i do remember buying a carton at $20 by the later 90s.

as to the golliwog it looks accurate for many with longer hair except for the red lips. it must be the red lips that are offensive, but isn't that protected by the lbgt community? i'm confused.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: ralph day on December 15, 2016, 08:00:39 AM
Neil, Nigel lives in Canada...believe his price quote, consumptive taxes (sin taxes) are quite high here.  How do you think we pay for universal health care for the obese, alcoholic smokers? ;D.

Our gasoline is presently $1.00 per litre.  There are 3.8 litres per US gallon...$3.80 per US gallon.  How much is your local station charging?

Ralph
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: TomW on December 15, 2016, 09:29:14 AM
Upper middle coast, US here.

Prices recently:

Butts are seven bucks and change here. This time of year I get 3+ days on a pack.

Started smoking after I  got inducted into the Army because in boot camp the Drill Instructor would call breaks by saying "Smoke em if you got em" and if you didn't smoke you had to keep doing whatever you were doing.


Gasoline was $2.05 / gallon 3 days ago when I topped off the Fiesta.

Retail electric is $.115 a KWH That is 11.5 cents. Any excess I feed in I get paid a whopping 3.8 cents.   

Luckily, no debt other than month to month credit cards and a meager retirement deposit in the bank monthly.

Never expected to actually live this long or I would have been more careful about things.  :o

Tom
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 15, 2016, 08:29:20 PM
you're right ralph as i forgot he's in canada.

gasoline here is $2.45/gal. i think pa has the highest gasoline taxes of any state and i believe i heard it to be at $.79/gal.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: Westbranch on December 15, 2016, 09:13:57 PM
Here is an example of why our gasoline is so costly...
http://retail.petro-canada.ca/en/fuelsavings/gas-taxes-canada.aspx

Note the small takeout table, Vancouver BC has an add on for public transit, it started at 10cents and is now up to 17 cents with no upper limit...  :o
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 16, 2016, 11:09:02 PM
so everybody who buys gas in vancouver is paying for public transportation or only part of it? it's still not right as public transit only has certain routes and one does not get to go to lesser traveled areas. public transit gets subsidies here too, but it's either on a state or federal level and it's not fair either and way too costly. most is geared for travel to and from the city of pittsburgh so if you need a ride into the next town that isn't covered by the routes you must drive. often times it's necessary to take 2 or 3 buses that go to the city and back out to where you wish to go. unfortunately, even our highways are set up this way too as you must go to the city. many cities have circular highway bypasses so one does not have to go there if you don't need to. this compounds highway traffic during rush hour, which here is actually rush hours and can last 4-5 hours of congestion in the morning and in the evening. add in any sporting events, concerts, or travel to and from the airports and it's a travel nightmare here that public transit couldn't even come close to fixing. very poor planning here.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: Westbranch on December 17, 2016, 12:26:33 AM
niel, it is essentially a subsidy and only pays for a part of the costs of the system...http://buzzer.translink.ca/2013/03/translink-101-where-does-translink-get-its-funding-and-how-do-we-spend-it/

Vancouver is the end of an isthmus with water on  3 sides ...
https://www.google.ca/search?q=map+of+Vancouver&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=RMxUWMaxDMLkjwOhlJ2gDA

When in Vancouver,  I never buy gas inside the 'zone' which includes a lot of the surrounding suburbs that cause the traffic problems... you have to go about 40 miles out to be outside the bdy...
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: russ_drinkwater on December 17, 2016, 03:10:58 PM
Brace yourselves!
Got a hold of something solid?
Cigs in australia, 50 pack is $50!
Petrol and diesel is back up tp $5.00 plus a gallon! (4.55 liters = imp gallon)
Power is 28-44 cents per kwh!
A bottle of stock base rum such as bundaberg rum is $40 a 700ml!
And I have to admit I really loved the hanna barbara cartoons of a sunday night as that was the only time of the week you saw the flintstones
and that was in black and white! :o :(
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 17, 2016, 03:30:25 PM
westbranch,
vancouver being an island is limited i guess, but you got my drift. i've heard some things about the area from coot like how the houses are being bought up by non-canadians and they're driving up the housing costs artificially now or something like that. i even heard about the province wide 1st time home buying subsidy for 1/2 of the down payment up to $37k by misty christie clark. yup, i get updated on goofballs in your government and i update coot too on ours.

russ_drinkwater,
i hope you make $250k/yr to pay for that stuff.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: russ_drinkwater on December 17, 2016, 03:39:00 PM
Niel, I have never smoked!
I have a still and heaps of grid tie supply! (the power company owes us $3,000 at the moment for feed in!)
We make bio diesel when prices get totally out of control!
Car rego is a killer here at over $880 for the wifes XC90 5 cylinder volvo for a year!
It is a bit like the old thomas the cat and the bulldog cartoon where the husband is reading out the household expenses!
Dog food, cat food. dog food, cat food, dog food, cat food! Lol!
Do what you can to trim the costs.
Beef on the hoof and vege gardens and fruit trees.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: CDN-VT on December 17, 2016, 10:06:30 PM
Fuel here is 120/L & volume corrected so if I fill a 5 imp gallon container , I get charged for  26-27 L just because they rip off more to make sure you pay more taxes !!
Till I pay for AV fuel , All that extra crap is gone. I get a full L or if I fill my 60L tank , I can only get 60L in it.
My car gas I can get 8-10% more that it should hold !!


Smokes now are 12.00 / a 20 pack

power is 22cents /KWh after all the add on's

My Volvos are 1200/ car /1400 truck for insurance PER unit per year


Case (12x 341 ml /8oz) of cheep beer 20.00  Wine 15$ - way over my pay grade for a 750ml / bottle .

We do have deductions of our pay checks /cheques  for medical & all is NOT covered .

Canada / Auzi / NZ /India  and any commonwealth  connection("The Crown")  is what the cream of the resources can be stolen .

I live in the MOST Expensive part of Canada to live , House /Land Taxes are the worst & it comes down to Taxation WITHOUT and Representation !!!

Vancouver Island BC mid island in the Retirement Capital of Canada.
VT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHQOX8EVNmE


Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: onanparts on December 17, 2016, 11:28:14 PM
Cartoons & Cigarettes? Fred & Barney light up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqdTBDkUEEQ
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 18, 2016, 05:47:50 AM
omg i remember that commercial and that aired while kids were watching. heart attack city for pc police these days.

russ, glad you have a good handle on things. these days that's tough to do.

cdn-vt, some things are similar where i am and others are a bit higher than me. i'm not sure what area you are in or if it is the worst, but i do know i'm hoping to hit the lottery to get out of this area. that's about my only chance, but with my luck i'll croak before getting to spend it.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: russ_drinkwater on December 19, 2016, 03:31:38 PM
Spend it quick on more solar Neil! :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just checked that advert out, OMG so bad lol!
Did not watch the beer one with the flintstones that was second on the youtube play list!
CDN that insurance is way over the top in cost!
I pay $300 a year for a $20,000 ( agreed value comprehensive) policy on my 1982 acco truck!
Beef, pork and lamb prices have gone through the roof over here.
Rump steak is $30 a kg, lamb chops up to $50 a kg and pork is over $20 a kg for most cuts not allowing for specials.
We are getting about $3.60 a kg live weight for young cattle at the yards now.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 20, 2016, 02:59:24 AM
russ, i don't have it yet to spend. i wish i did as i'd gladly spend on pvs and a whole bunch of other stuff.

lest you guys forget my insurance costs i said i have. it's with total coverage on an '08 car valued roughly about $6k and is $150 per month. that's $1800 per year.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: russ_drinkwater on December 21, 2016, 07:22:24 AM
Do you not have third party property only insurance?
Covers everything except your car and costs under a third of normal comprehensive!
Lottery problems? Buy more tickets, lol.
Or put the money in a solar panels swear jar!
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: TomW on December 21, 2016, 08:13:05 AM
Quote from: russ_drinkwater on December 21, 2016, 07:22:24 AM
Do you not have third party property only insurance?
Covers everything except your car and costs under a third of normal comprehensive!
Lottery problems? Buy more tickets, lol.
Or put the money in a solar panels swear jar!

Here, in The States, we have "liability"  insurance that just covers your liability and no repairs for your vehicle damages from a mishap.

I usually drop the full coverage at about 4 years of age. After that it seems you are betting against yourself and tossing the cash away. We always go for a high deductible to reduce the premium when using Full coverage.

Luckily, neither of us has even had a parking ticket in over 30 years so auto insurance is not too expensive.  ;D

And, my "swear jar" would need to be a 50 gallon oil drum.  ::)
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 21, 2016, 08:39:40 AM
i'm still paying on the car. i got it used so that should answer some of your concerns, but the finance company wants full cover to recover any loss of the car making sure they are paid.

if i had lots of $ to buy more tickets then why would i need to hit the lottery? i had a job at one point selling lottery tickets and i saw people placing several hundred dollars every week. do the math on that. $200x52=$10400. that's crazy.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: russ_drinkwater on December 21, 2016, 03:27:36 PM
So Tom with your wear jar I smell several new midnite inverters in the pipeline!
Neil add to your math the money people spend in cigarettes and booze (illicite drugs are extras!) plus the gambling and it makes you wonder where the hell the cash comes from?
Perhaps the old credit card gets a pounding!
My expenditures are more farm related. Just dropped $4,000 having a dam desilted! :o >:(
And paid the insurance for the property, dozer and vehicles yesterday $4,700 ($800 of which was stamp duty and tax  :o >:(  )
Causing me a lot grief watching so much cash that could be used for another battery bank get burned up, lol! ;D :'(
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 22, 2016, 01:53:21 AM
i hear you russ and i agree the smokes and booze are a big expense to those that indulge. when the other half says we have no money left for food i ask her where she got the money for the cigarettes. i'm tempted to tell her to eat them for her meal.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: russ_drinkwater on December 22, 2016, 03:00:50 PM
Lmao! A hard man!
Can food stamps be used for cigs and booze?
Over here many children suffer because the parents priorities are for booze and cigarettes and not what the kids need.
Personally I would like to be the sale of tobacco banned because as a registered nurse I have seem dozens of fantastic, smart, productive people die horrible deaths from smoking!
No offence to any smoker here, but you need to kill the habit before it kills you!
Off topic sorry! ::) ;D
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 23, 2016, 07:29:14 AM
russ,
as a former smoker i agree with you about those things. welfare to my knowledge does not pay for smokes and booze here. the government is pretty tight on that issue as they don't want the $ spent that way.

many who smoke don't always feel the damage from the smoking because of the bodies defenses. a layer of mucous cushions the lungs from direct contact with the smoke after awhile and when you stop smoking that mucous stops being layed into the lungs and that's when you realize what you did to yourself. if you ever cough up a thick pasty white substance then you are in a danger zone. sorry for gross description. this worsens in low humidity. i have no medical degree and is what i believe happens as i feel it happened to me. i have copd, but a mild case of it.

as to off topic, we are in a free for all general discussion area and i certainly don't mind your comments so i see no problem.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: TomW on December 23, 2016, 12:04:43 PM
Yeah, hard to ding someone for being "off topic" in a section labeled "off topic discussion".  :o

Not sure if staying on topic in the thread matters much? It doesn't to me.

Pretty much a free for all area as long as it doesn't get personal or too adult rated on language.

We don't even need to agree, just be nice about it.

Tom




Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: russ_drinkwater on December 23, 2016, 03:49:33 PM
Anyone who smokes needs to observe an episode of APO (acute pulmonary odema).
Do a search on it!
Scary for nursing staff especially in rural areas where I live, not so bad for the patient as they are unconscious at the time.
Quit the habit and as I said before have a solar treat jar for yourself, lol.
It will be amazing how fast it will fill up if you add the smokes money to it every time you have the urge to light up.
Sorry to hear about the COPD!
Yeah, the destruction of the alvelio in the lungs from tobacco smoke creeps up on you and you end up with large pockets with little surface area as the erosion and removal of walls and surface area proceeds. Interfers with oxygen/CO2 exchange across the cell walls and SOB
(short of breath) becomes the norm.
A mate of my dads smoked for years and gave it away in 1980, but he has terminal lung cancer now and will not reach 70yo.
I always smile when idiots tell people if they stop smoking now in 10 years their lungs will be as good as a non-smoker!
Absolute rubbish and lies!
The damage is permanent! :o :(
Another indicator is if your leg hairs are declining and feet are starting to discolour and blacken!
02 starvation of hair follicles causes the hair loss.
Anyways, hope yall have a fantastic x-mas break and the new year brings us all some peace and prosperity!
Merry x-mas from down under! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: Westbranch on December 23, 2016, 05:20:09 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all,  from The chilly Cariboo Region of BC, (yes it is the right spelling)... and here is a news item from yesterday, that lends unexpected support, to revive the Merry in 'Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year' instead of the  :o neutered Happy Holidays  >:(... 
punchline is about 1 min :50 sec in...
you warm December winter types might not get the pun in the scene where Christmas light are being hung on the hedge...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/regina-sikh-community-wishes-people-merry-christmas-1.3907770
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: niel on December 24, 2016, 02:28:23 AM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.

actually, i believe people shortened it long ago because there were 2 holidays there. they still had the intent of merry Christmas in it. enter obama and the rest of his nutty followers and all of a sudden it was to appease those who did not celebrate Christmas, but they left everyone who did celebrate Christmas out to the point that it wasn't right to ever say it. in my view they were trying to appease muslims and at the same time detracting from and denigrating Christianity. that's all the further i wish to delve into this as religion and politics are explosive subject matters.

russ, i stopped smoking in 2005 on the day hurricane katrina hit new orleans. other half still smokes though and that has resulted in some friction.
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: russ_drinkwater on December 24, 2016, 04:30:24 PM
I hope for you that the wife's slipstream smoke does not do anymore damage mate!
Guard the rest of your lung function well.
Yes we have crazy politicians over here and a lot of other crazy folk most of whom are small minority groups!
Most are destroyers and not builders and that is what is wrong with both of our countries today!
Everything is getting choked with redtape!
Have a great day yall!
Title: Re: Cartoons
Post by: littleharbor2 on May 02, 2019, 01:17:22 PM
I really like the old black and white Popeye cartoons from the 30's Really special how they did the 3D backgrounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HMuPKuYkeE