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Title: High Voltage vs Low Voltage Panels
Post by: zulu on November 05, 2011, 06:20:41 PM
For charging a 12V RV battery bank via a Classic 150, I'm assuming that higher voltage panels (20V nominal) will be better at charging my battery bank than lower voltage (12V nominal) -- is that right?
Title: Re: High Voltage vs Low Voltage Panels
Post by: boB on November 05, 2011, 07:18:46 PM

I would say yes to the 20 V nominal panels.  A bit higher voltage than the nominal battery voltage is almost always better than a lower, and possibly too low voltage of PV module.

A 12V nominal PV will, a lot of time, be too low if it gets hot.  Then, there is the wire loss part of it all that can be made better by upping the input voltage a bit.

boB
Title: Re: High Voltage vs Low Voltage Panels
Post by: Tinman on November 07, 2011, 12:54:26 PM
Quote from: zulu on November 05, 2011, 06:20:41 PM
For charging a 12V RV battery bank via a Classic 150, I'm assuming that higher voltage panels (20V nominal) will be better at charging my battery bank than lower voltage (12V nominal) -- is that right?

Make sure your panels have air space below them. A slight tilt will allow convection to carry away the heat much better. If you run the panels in series your array will have a higher voltage, the Classic will do wonders with the amps going into your batteries. Another consideration is your wire. Running parallel wired panels means big wire unless you have only a couple of panels up. For an RV every watt/amp counts. We use #1/0 wire to everything. Sure it costs more to do that but solar in an RV isn't about saving money.
Title: Re: High Voltage vs Low Voltage Panels
Post by: Smithbrown2011 on November 16, 2011, 05:22:44 AM
The numerical definition of high voltage depends on the context of the discussion. Two factors considered in the classification of a "high voltage" are the possibility of causing a spark in air and the danger of electric shock by contact or proximity. The definitions may refer to the voltage either between two conductors of a system or between any conductor and ground.

In electric power transmission engineering, high voltage is usually considered any voltage over approximately 35,000 volts. This is a classification based on the design of apparatus and insulation.
Title: Re: High Voltage vs Low Voltage Panels
Post by: niel on November 16, 2011, 09:43:42 AM
actually, the nec does consider anything over 50v to be high voltage and they handle it slightly different.
Title: Re: High Voltage vs Low Voltage Panels
Post by: zulu on November 18, 2011, 08:38:20 PM
For my purposes, anything over 12V nominal is high voltage.
Title: Re: High Voltage vs Low Voltage Panels
Post by: phonetic on November 24, 2011, 07:34:56 PM
I would go for higher voltage for your Panel strings, will get less power loss (I^2R losses), being from OZ we have rules can work upto 120 volts DC being unlicenced, not sure of your NEC rules.
My 2.2kW array feeding a classic 150 as 3 190w panels in series  by 4 strings

Regards
Frank
Title: Re: High Voltage vs Low Voltage Panels
Post by: JosephSparks on December 28, 2011, 12:23:59 AM
thanks for all these safety ideas... I think you should go for higher voltage for your Panel strings for better output.