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Title: Supercapacitor Battery Bank
Post by: smanners on March 06, 2018, 04:43:50 PM
Has anyone looked at or have an opinion on the Killowatt Labs Sirius Capacitor Module. This is a 48v microprocessor controlled Supercapacitor battery. Claims 3.55kwh of capacity, 100% DOD theoretical cycle life of 1,000,000. Currently retailing for about AUD4500. Expensive but given cycle life interesting. I’m sceptical.


Title: Re: Supercapacitor Battery Bank
Post by: mike90045 on March 07, 2018, 02:58:13 AM
They have a lot of words on their site, but no numbers,   sounds like vaporware.

Caps and batteries are very different.   
Caps store power from 0-15V   All is usable  Call it 50 Watt hours  But your inverter crashes at 11V, so 70% or so, is unavailable for use by a inverter
Batteries provide useful power from 11-15V.  Call that 50 Watt hours too. Your inverter can use all of it.

Title: Re: Supercapacitor Battery Bank
Post by: smanners on March 07, 2018, 04:34:36 PM
Yes there is very little technical documentation on the product.
Title: Re: Supercapacitor Battery Bank
Post by: ClassicCrazy on March 07, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
Quote from: mike90045 on March 07, 2018, 02:58:13 AM
They have a lot of words on their site, but no numbers,   sounds like vaporware.

Caps and batteries are very different.   
Caps store power from 0-15V   All is usable  Call it 50 Watt hours  But your inverter crashes at 11V, so 70% or so, is unavailable for use by a inverter
Batteries provide useful power from 11-15V.  Call that 50 Watt hours too. Your inverter can use all of it.

Thanks for that perspective Mike  - it is a good point on how numbers and claims can be deceiving.

Larry
Title: Re: Supercapacitor Battery Bank
Post by: Westbranch on March 08, 2018, 10:33:47 AM
Larry read up on this one

https://www.ecoult.com/technology/ultrabattery
Title: Re: Supercapacitor Battery Bank
Post by: Robin on March 08, 2018, 05:42:12 PM
We are working with Deka on their Ultra battery. The B17 will have its own jack to talk to the Ultra battery.
Title: Re: Supercapacitor Battery Bank
Post by: Highflyer on March 08, 2018, 10:22:05 PM
Robin,

Is there any chance other inverters (Think Rosie) will also be able to talk to the Deka Ultra battery?