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Charge Controllers and Clippers => Midnite DIY Series => Topic started by: sdmasterson on December 21, 2021, 12:09:40 AM

Title: Heart broken
Post by: sdmasterson on December 21, 2021, 12:09:40 AM
Tonight I learned midnight was rolling out a new line.  I was super excited.  I revere midnight to be better than victron.  I instantly got on to see this new line.  I love all in one units.  As I was reading the description I quickly saw made in china for midnight :(.  As I looked at the pic of the unit I knew it looked familiar.   these all in one units apear to be made by the same company that makes the 48v renogy all in one.  I hope someone proves me wrong.
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: Saggys on December 21, 2021, 11:24:38 AM
I have read SRNE is the parent company. I may upgrade? my Trace this spring so I am interested in this line as well. Victron appears to work well with the battery chemistry that I will be using so I am also looking at that too.
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: boB on December 21, 2021, 04:59:41 PM
Yes, SRNE makes the DIY series.

I have heard that some do not like the Renogy inverters and that they are the same but I do not know for sure.

What is it about the Renogy version that people do not like ?   I have not heard anything specific.

Would like to know.

boB
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: qrper on December 21, 2021, 05:46:49 PM
I am holding out for Rosie to get a dress on and come to the party..

Mike
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: Saggys on December 22, 2021, 12:16:40 PM
What is the power rating  on the Rosie? Will it work well with Nickel Iron voltage range?
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: FNG on December 22, 2021, 03:22:52 PM
Looks like 6-7kw and last I heard it will not work with nickle iron as it will not go high enough in DC voltage but maybe some one else will chime in
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: Steve_S on December 22, 2021, 03:44:21 PM
Same OEM as Renogy ? !
I won't bother mentioning this line of product now that I know this.
Renogy Rep says it all, sadly, due diligence when selecting an OEM should include what product they put out and who markets it.  And then see how well that all holds up.  Renogy's single issue is the atrocious service, support & tech help... Sadly much of their gear is "Value Grade" at best. 

Sigineer, Yiyen, Voltronix and a few others would have been a far better option for a Midnite Value DIY line.

You may start having some Deja-Vu with these if you haven't already... remember other "short lived" products done on the cheap.
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: boB on December 22, 2021, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: Steve_S on December 22, 2021, 03:44:21 PM
Same OEM as Renogy ? !
I won't bother mentioning this line of product now that I know this.
Renogy Rep says it all, sadly, due diligence when selecting an OEM should include what product they put out and who markets it.  And then see how well that all holds up.  Renogy's single issue is the atrocious service, support & tech help... Sadly much of their gear is "Value Grade" at best. 

Sigineer, Yiyen, Voltronix and a few others would have been a far better option for a Midnite Value DIY line.

You may start having some Deja-Vu with these if you haven't already... remember other "short lived" products done on the cheap.


Thank you Steve.   But still not sure what problems exist with the actual SRNE inverters themselves ?

Renogy service would not be part of it of course.  That is not MidNite Solar.

I DID however just watch Will Prowse's video on YT about the inverter limited to 145 Voc PV input and no lower end mounting holes in that inverter.

There is evidently a menu stated in the manual (?)  about selecting the priority of AC grid input vs. PV input for charging that he evidently did not know about.

I would still like to know of real issues with the SRNE inverters.  We have had a couple of them come back out of hundreds of them.  One of them had a blank display I know and I think that some kind of firmware upgrade may have even fixed that ?

Someone should maybe complain about a MidNite DIY inverter/charger instead of Renogy's inverter.   Maybe the MNS DIY inverter is better than what Renogy sells ?


boB




Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: Saggys on December 22, 2021, 08:03:37 PM
What is the power rating  on the Rosie? Will it work well with Nickel Iron voltage range?
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: Saggys on December 22, 2021, 08:06:29 PM
Sorry for duplicate post, small phone and bad eyes!
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: boB on December 22, 2021, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: Saggys on December 22, 2021, 08:03:37 PM
What is the power rating  on the Rosie? Will it work well with Nickel Iron voltage range?

It would work with Nickel Iron but not if the series connection of batteries requires the high 60V range.

Higher than say 63V or 64V is not going to happen.

However, down to the lower 40V range should be fine for the Rosie.

boB
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: onanparts on December 23, 2021, 01:19:20 AM
Quote from: Saggys on December 22, 2021, 08:03:37 PM
What is the power rating  on the Rosie? Will it work well with Nickel Iron voltage range?

Take a look in the Rosie sub forum here:
http://midniteftp.com/forum/index.php?board=68.0
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: Saggys on December 23, 2021, 06:54:01 PM
Thanks guys, I will check the sub forum. I only have a 24 volt system so maybe it will do 19volts to 33volts if I am lucky.
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: dapdan on January 18, 2022, 11:27:40 AM
Midnite,

I am interested in the 24V DIY but would like a higher PV voltage threshold. are there any plans to upgrade this or should I wait on the split phase variant to have a higher PV input voltage. Although I really need it now and not a year from now.  ::)
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: boB on January 19, 2022, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: dapdan on January 18, 2022, 11:27:40 AM
Midnite,

I am interested in the 24V DIY but would like a higher PV voltage threshold. are there any plans to upgrade this or should I wait on the split phase variant to have a higher PV input voltage. Although I really need it now and not a year from now.  ::)


Guessing here, Dan...

For the DIY series, unless SRNE themselves make a smaller All In One (AIO) hybrid inverter/charger, that may well not happen ?

They will change some things for us but that is something that they would most likely need to change for their whole product line.

Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: Kurt_the_German on November 27, 2022, 03:57:58 PM
Hey midniters,
here's a bit of suggestion for the marketing department of yours.
Why not create a sub-brand called "Not so Midnite", "China-Nite" or something else clearly distinguishable under which you can sell stuff made in China?
That would help folks like me to avoid it and still support made in the US if you actually continue to manufacture your other stuff here.
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: boB on November 27, 2022, 08:58:04 PM
Quote from: Kurt_the_German on November 27, 2022, 03:57:58 PM
Hey midniters,
here's a bit of suggestion for the marketing department of yours.
Why not create a sub-brand called "Not so Midnite", "China-Nite" or something else clearly distinguishable under which you can sell stuff made in China?
That would help folks like me to avoid it and still support made in the US if you actually continue to manufacture your other stuff here.

Hi Kurt !

Our "DIY" series is exactly that....   I do like the name though, "Not So MidNite"  !

The DIY stuff is made in China and is less expensive which is a bit more affordable for a lot of do it yourselfers.  But we also offer support which helps a lot.

boB
Title: Re: Heart broken
Post by: dapdan on February 08, 2024, 09:10:09 AM
All,

This is an old post but I think the information is still relevant. I have had a MN DIY 3024 installed for nearly 2 years(in July 2024) and it has worked flawlessly for that period. I have no regret at all and know that I have received more than it value for its cost. My only recommendation to improve this excellent AIO is as follows:

1. The input PV to be at least 150V instead of the 100V
2. The input PV power to be increased to at least 2000W from the current 1400W.

Other than those two, especially 1., it is a very good inverter.

Cheers...
Damani