High PV volts...CL200 or CL250?

Started by Jacotenente, June 04, 2016, 09:16:19 AM

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Jacotenente

Hey guys - I have a long PV feeder cable run from my three e20 solar panels to my CL200 (purchased last year). The panels are e20/435 laminates:

Rated voltage: 72.9
Current: 5.97
VOC: 85.6
Short circuit V: 85.6
Short circuit A: 6.43

When operating in parallel, all three run about 66 volts (in parallel). When cold, they run at 69-70V. However, I would like to run them in series (Multiply x3  = 198v). I connected them up in series and the CL200 went into "HyperVOC".

Would a CL250 be able to handle the series voltage? I looking for better efficiency/power for the 125' cable run to the Classic. Wired in parallel, I have seen around 900w avg out of these panels (1,305 is the rated power). During "cloud edge" they have pushed out 1,400w.

Can Midnite exchange the CL200 for a CL250? Perhaps one of those "garage sale" deals? Would a Lite work?

Chris

dgd

With an OCV of 85.6v then in cold conditions the series voltage could push a Classic 250 into HyperVOC. So changing controller doesn't look useful.
Have you calculated the voltage drop over your 125 feet of cable from PVs to Classic?  If its too
high then either parallel cables or a lower gauge cable.
A better solution is to find a 4th identical panel then wire as 2S/2P

dgd
Classic 250, 150,  20 140w, 6 250w PVs, 2Kw turbine, MN ac Clipper, Epanel/MNdc, Trace SW3024E (1997), Century 1050Ah 24V FLA (1999). Arduino power monitoring and web server.  Off grid since 4/2000
West Auckland, New Zealand

ClassicCrazy

Did you try the Midnite string calculator ?
It will let you know if your panel array will be okay  for the various Classic Controller models.

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

CDN-VT

A better solution is to find a 4th identical panel then wire as 2S/2P
Agreed if on tight budget
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

Jacotenente

Yep...agree 100%, 2S, 2P would work fine. I wired two in parallel and they worked with the CL200 w/o any issues. Around 135 volts while operating. I should have bought four when I had the chance. I will plug the numbers into the Sizing Chart and also check the voltage cable loss with that voltage drop online calculator. Right now, in parallel, all three are running and making power...but, I know efficiency will improve (and power) running them in series.