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Started by qrper, November 11, 2024, 01:13:05 PM

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qrper

Ever have one of those 'ha ha' moments? I sure did the other night. My wife was caught up watching the real housewives of someplace or another when it hit me.

From Rosie to my essential load panel, there are no breakers! I was thinking the bypass breaker, at 63A would do the job. Then the more I thought about it, if there is a fault in my load panel and the Rosie breaker trips, doesn't it pull the other side of the bypass breaker down (up?) too?

Or does the breaker simply open and nothing moves?

Do I need to somehow shoehorn a breaker between Rosie and my load panel?

Mike
System one: 7kWp w/ Trina 250 W panels @90 Vdc. Classic 150 to 16-6 V U.S batteries. Trace 5548 sine wave inverter.
System two: 6kWp grid tie with solaredge inverter.
System three: Midnite Brat, two 120 W Astropower modules, 100 Ah battery. Runs the LED streetlight in the back yard.

dapdan

Q,

I have a similar setup. My Rosie outputs to a DP breaker in my main before it feeds the other circuits. I would think that in my case the DP on my load panel should trip and disconnect the Main panel from Rosie regardless of the condition of the Rosie e-panel change over breaker. Is your system setup like that.

Damani

Brucey

My plan is an MNEAC60 for AC in and out on my Rosie. Regardless of if there's a breaker downstream at a panel.

FNG

Quote from: qrper on November 11, 2024, 01:13:05 PMEver have one of those 'ha ha' moments? I sure did the other night. My wife was caught up watching the real housewives of someplace or another when it hit me.

From Rosie to my essential load panel, there are no breakers! I was thinking the bypass breaker, at 63A would do the job. Then the more I thought about it, if there is a fault in my load panel and the Rosie breaker trips, doesn't it pull the other side of the bypass breaker down (up?) too?

Or does the breaker simply open and nothing moves?

Do I need to somehow shoehorn a breaker between Rosie and my load panel?

Mike
If you trip the 60A output breaker it will not turn ON the bypass breaker. No secondary protection would be needed unless you ae running less than 60A wire from Rosie to the subpanel. For example, if you ran #10 from Rosie to a subpanel then yes you need a 30A breaker as the wire is too small for the 60

qrper

Quote from: FNG on November 12, 2024, 08:10:29 AM
Quote from: qrper on November 11, 2024, 01:13:05 PMEver have one of those 'ha ha' moments? I sure did the other night. My wife was caught up watching the real housewives of someplace or another when it hit me.

From Rosie to my essential load panel, there are no breakers! I was thinking the bypass breaker, at 63A would do the job. Then the more I thought about it, if there is a fault in my load panel and the Rosie breaker trips, doesn't it pull the other side of the bypass breaker down (up?) too?

Or does the breaker simply open and nothing moves?

Do I need to somehow shoehorn a breaker between Rosie and my load panel?

Mike
If you trip the 60A output breaker it will not turn ON the bypass breaker. No secondary protection would be needed unless you ae running less than 60A wire from Rosie to the subpanel. For example, if you ran #10 from Rosie to a subpanel then yes you need a 30A breaker as the wire is too small for the 60

Thanks! That's exactly what I wanted to know. Was a bit concerned about popping the inverter's output breaker and then having the ac grid out switch on.

mike
System one: 7kWp w/ Trina 250 W panels @90 Vdc. Classic 150 to 16-6 V U.S batteries. Trace 5548 sine wave inverter.
System two: 6kWp grid tie with solaredge inverter.
System three: Midnite Brat, two 120 W Astropower modules, 100 Ah battery. Runs the LED streetlight in the back yard.