Classic shut down: MODE = OFF Orange LED on MNGP blinking

[Westbranch]

W7 Starter, on a Asus Eee net book

[Westbranch]

Since my Netbook crashed I have been reloading everything  but the kitchen sink, and it is a slow process as anyone that has done it will know.

Last night I read something on the screen about Windows DEFENDER, WHAT? I thought that was turned off.....   had to snoop and found it under Control Panel, search for Defender, Voila!
There are about 5 places to turn it off, especially in  the last category...  turned them all off and that change sped up the entire machine. Right from boot up and on..  It was causing an entire slowdown of the machine due to a conflict I suspect.

Now I am wondering if it has something to do with the Netbook NOT seeing the Classics over USB?

Thoughts anyone?

[boB]

Since my Netbook crashed I have been reloading everything  but the kitchen sink, and it is a slow process as anyone that has done it will know.

Last night I read something on the screen about Windows DEFENDER, WHAT? I thought that was turned off.....   had to snoop and found it under Control Panel, search for Defender, Voila!
There are about 5 places to turn it off, especially in  the last category...  turned them all off and that change sped up the entire machine. Right from boot up and on..  It was causing an entire slowdown of the machine due to a conflict I suspect.

Now I am wondering if it has something to do with the Netbook NOT seeing the Classics over USB?

Thoughts anyone?

A slow computer might mess up the Classic and USB.  Not sure though.  Give it a try and let us know...

It has been sworn to me that the Microsoft anti-virus stuff does not slow down the machine.

I wonder what the heck was going on with you ?   But I don't think I have windows defender on or installed...  Just the  virus, spyware and firewall enabled in the Action Center, also under the control panel in windows.

Windows defender may be something entirely different and capable of slowing down the puter.

[Westbranch]

I went to see what I could get for a shorter USB cable. Then I realized that I was not sure about which small USB I will need for the Classic...

If it fits I have a 3 foot cable for my Nikon camera downloads too that I know is fully functional

Andrew, boB, Ryan can some one tell me what the small USB designation is?    Micro , Mini, , A , B

ADD:  ps the CC's are a 3 hr drive away, and in use, so no cable here to check...

[Halfcrazy]

the classic uses Mini USB

[Westbranch]

Ryan, is that min A or B?

[Halfcrazy]

A and B is not Mini or Micro.

The standard USB like the computer has is A, The square one the printer takes is B and the Mini is what the Classic has and the Micro is what the new cell phones use. That is the explanation I got from the engineers anyhow

[Halfcrazy]

Hm did not see your document. Now I have no clue at all.

I can only say it is the next to smallest USB plug I have ever played with.

[Westbranch]

Hi Ryan.

Like the size for a cell phone ? or the next size up.

here is some info from WIKI

The Mini-A and Mini-B plugs are approximately 3 by 7 mm.
The micro-USB plugs have a similar width and approximately half the thickness, enabling their integration into thinner portable devices.
The micro-A connector is 6.85 by 1.8 mm with a maximum overmold size of 11.7 by 8.5 mm. The micro-B connector is 6.85 by 1.8 mm with a maximum overmold size of 10.6 by 8.5 mm

Width    12 mm (A-plug),[1] 8.45 mm (B-plug); 7 mm (Mini / Micro-USB)
Height    4.5 mm (A-plug),[1] 7.78 mm (B-plug, pre-v3.0); 1.5â€"3 mm (Mini/Micro-USB)

[zoneblue]

Its called mini-B.

[Westbranch]

Thanks ZB, I have a spare from my camera for a 3 rd option..Off to the the woods, hee hee ho ho, on Saturday.

[Westbranch]

boB you asked about R132, attached is a pic of the board, I don't don’t know if  R132  is there…


On the first page of pressing the status key I got a 5 in the upper middle of the screen for both Classics, #647 and #4592 and a note on #647 that the battery was 12 V,  but  it is a 24 V bank... {I previously had shut off the PV, disconnected the battery and reset charge settings }

Both Classics have MNGP V 1042 and FW V 1181 from Dec 2012

OK, so I tried to get my Netbook pc and Classic to talk to each other today...

First the FW Update process:
I had the FW install GUI (May5/14) installed on a W7 Netbook,  and when I plugged in the USB cable I now got the normal 'bing bong' sounds for a new device connected...things were looking up    mistake!

Chose Cl 150, yet Step 13or 14  in the W7 FW installation instructions NEVER appeared.

Things seemed to jump ahead and  I did get  a W command screen that asked if I wanted to abort the failed install  (??)  (but progress all the same...)

Following the instructions I went looking for the 'other devices ' in step 19 or something like it ....
no go.. nada…

Tonight,  I just  deleted and reinstalled the GUI (May10/14) so will attempt an Upgrade again next weekend...

Question: the GUI and the FW instructions contradict each other , the GUI says to shut of the power and the FW instructions, #13 say to have the power on, when the USB cord is plugged in.. which is correct?  I used # 13… and seemed to get a connection.

Local App use:
I hooked up a 2 foot Cat5 cable to the port and got a solid/ flashing light  for the connection when plugged into the pc...

Classic is set to STATIC not Dynamic IP.

I entered the address of the Classic but get Device not Available... seems to be the 502 port that is the issue..

[Resthome]

ReasonForResting = 5 Power is too low for 90 seconds (Solar 20W, Wind 50W)


If you are pluging in the Ethernet cable directly from the PC to the Classic. The PC has to have a different IP address than what the Classic has. Sound like you are trying to make them the same.

Watch Ryan's video on "Hooking Up the Classic to Ethernet"  to see how to make this work.

http://www.midnitesolar.com/video/videoPlay.php?video_ID=39&videoCat_ID=3

[Westbranch]

Looks like that RFR is just normal shutdown when the sun sets, and what I saw was not the crash reason, superseded by yesterdays reason....

RH, thanks for asking, what I meant was that  I made sure that both IPs were different on each classic...  but... I had a typo on the Netbook so the PC was looking for something different than the LApp ....Fixed it now, so I'll  try again next weekend...

Now to figure out the FW Update issue...

And that "12V Batt" showing on #647 

[Resthome]

And that "12V Batt" showing on #647 

I would measure the voltage at the Bat terminals on the Classic and do a Factory Reset (VMM) on that Classic and see if it will find the correct voltage.

On the FW Update issue I'm no help there as I know netbooks are a little different with their OS versions. And I think you said you have never done FW updates with this netbook.