a plotting of output from a AA battery with Mooshimeter

Started by Westbranch, December 19, 2015, 04:10:33 PM

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Westbranch

Wish we could get these types of graphs for our batteries, tells a good story... reminds me of those for LiFePO4 batteries discharge profile

https://moosh.im/2015/11/profiling-a-aa-battery/
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

boB

Should be able to do that with the Classic and WB Jr.  Just a Simple Matter Of Programming  (SMOP)

boB
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Westbranch

Right you are boB....

I was thinking about their usefulness if we had those before purchase if available... 
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

Cniemand

What sort of batteries are you looking for profile graphs of, WB?
OFF-GRID @ 8500FT : 2000w Array : 8 - CS6P-250P ; VFX 3648 ; WBjr ; MN CL200 #6738 ; FW #2079  
48v LiFePo4 : 16 - CALB CA 100 aH in Series - 5 kWh ; No Active BMS - Bottom Balanced
Charging Parameters : Bulk - 55v, Absorb - 5 EndAmps @ 55v, Float - 54v or 3.375v per Cell : ZERO EQUALIZE

Westbranch

Hi Clod, the ones showing in my sig line..  there is nowt available by the maker... and I have had one unintended deeeep discharge one one of my banks but it appears to have recovered.. just curious to see what the maker 'planned' as a recoverable DOD
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

Cniemand

Ahh, yes. Makes sense. :)  It seems to me that many battery types can recover so long as you do not push them into reverse. The idea of keeping them all balanced at the low point to have them all be dead at the same time, thus not killing each other.

Isn't a battery by default when it is first made near a zero charge? Then energy added to it. It would suggest that a very small amount of ~100%DOD are not detrimental. However, relying on that would be.

Or have I it wrong and that even post manufacturer due to dissimular metals and electrolite there is still a potential? I can see that being the case with an electrolitic battery such as AGM/ PB cells but for lithiums ? Hmm. It is a different process entirely. One of inter-chelation of atoms while another being strictly a chemical exchange.
OFF-GRID @ 8500FT : 2000w Array : 8 - CS6P-250P ; VFX 3648 ; WBjr ; MN CL200 #6738 ; FW #2079  
48v LiFePo4 : 16 - CALB CA 100 aH in Series - 5 kWh ; No Active BMS - Bottom Balanced
Charging Parameters : Bulk - 55v, Absorb - 5 EndAmps @ 55v, Float - 54v or 3.375v per Cell : ZERO EQUALIZE

mtdoc

As an aside, I have a Mooshimeter. It's an excellent device.  Accurate, hands free mutlimeter - can measure power (simultaneous Volts/Amps) and can do remote logging with it.  Very useful for RE systems among other things. Good support from the developer as well.
Array 1: Sanyo HIT225 X 8 on Wattsun tracker. Array 2: Evergreen ES-E-225 X 12 on shed roof. Midnite e-panel with Outback GVFX3648, FNDC and Classic 150 X 2. 436 AH AGMs. Honda eu2000i X 2.

Cniemand

OFF-GRID @ 8500FT : 2000w Array : 8 - CS6P-250P ; VFX 3648 ; WBjr ; MN CL200 #6738 ; FW #2079  
48v LiFePo4 : 16 - CALB CA 100 aH in Series - 5 kWh ; No Active BMS - Bottom Balanced
Charging Parameters : Bulk - 55v, Absorb - 5 EndAmps @ 55v, Float - 54v or 3.375v per Cell : ZERO EQUALIZE

mtdoc

Array 1: Sanyo HIT225 X 8 on Wattsun tracker. Array 2: Evergreen ES-E-225 X 12 on shed roof. Midnite e-panel with Outback GVFX3648, FNDC and Classic 150 X 2. 436 AH AGMs. Honda eu2000i X 2.