Graphic Display Question? (MNGP )

[sigp2101]

Does The Classic 150 GUI provide monitoring of battery bank state of charge or I have to get separate voltmeter for that purpose?

Thanks!

[Westbranch]

You need a Shunt and the WBjr to get SoC if you do not have an E-Panel already.

[sigp2101]

You need a Shunt and the WBjr to get SoC if you do not have an E-Panel already.

What is E-Panel, MNGP? I do have MNGP, classic came with it. So if that is what you are referring to, is it enough to monitor SOC%?

Thanks!

[Westbranch]

An E-Panel is a pre-wired box that MidNite makes, and it contains a shunt that you would use with the WBjr to get and exact reading on the amps put back into your battery...

e-Panel http://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=53&productCatName=E-Panel%20-%20Outback&productCat_ID=1&sortOrder=10&act=p

WBjr    http://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=53&productCatName=E-Panel%20-%20Outback&productCat_ID=1&sortOrder=10&act=p

there are some videos and reading with the WBjr link, recommended

[sigp2101]

An E-Panel is a pre-wired box that MidNite makes, and it contains a shunt that you would use with the WBjr to get and exact reading on the amps put back into your battery...

e-Panel http://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=53&productCatName=E-Panel%20-%20Outback&productCat_ID=1&sortOrder=10&act=p

WBjr    http://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=53&productCatName=E-Panel%20-%20Outback&productCat_ID=1&sortOrder=10&act=p

there are some videos and reading with the WBjr link, recommended

Why would I use all that expensive equipment when simple
   MNBCM can serve same purpose?

[Westbranch]

You don't need to have an E-panel, it just simplifies the wiring a LOT, I have one in operation and a second one to install....  You only need the Shunt and the WBjr to get a determination of the  SoC %... and it will show on the MNGP or the MN Local APP.... I don't know about the MyMidnite site as I can not connect to the site from my cabin...

The MNBCM is an estimate, the WBjr knows exactly what has come out and gone back into your battery

[CDN-VT]

MNBCM is an guesstimate, but I use them for quick reference on many systems.

Great product
VT

[sigp2101]

OK, so WBJR & Shunt is the answer. Let me educate myself on it.

Thanks all!

SIGP2101

[ClassicCrazy]

The shunt goes on negative cable to battery . So on the battery side of the shunt there is only one connection - the one going to the battery.  That means that all current going to or from the battery has to go through that shunt. The Whizbang can determine exactly what is going to or from the battery .

For example - on a sunny day the MNGP display on your Classic shows it is  charging 50 amps. Without the Whizbang you don't know how many of those 50 amps are going to the battery and how many are going to a load like an inverter .  With the Whizbang it will show you the system amps - so in the above case if your inverter was using 40 amps you would be able to know that only 10 amps is going to the battery. And that is what is needed to calculate the SOC number too.

The shunt and Whizbang are very good investments that you could only reproduce by spending at least a couple hundred dollars on a meter like the Trimetric . But using the Whizbang integrated into the controls with the Classic gives you a lot of other monitoring and control options with the aux contacts also.  Another example is being able to use ending amps to stop absorb cycle and go to float.

Larry

[CDN-VT]

Great Info Larry for the question asked .
I use shunts & WBjr on most setups .
Tri-shunts on one .

VT

[sigp2101]

The shunt goes on negative cable to battery . So on the battery side of the shunt there is only one connection - the one going to the battery.  That means that all current going to or from the battery has to go through that shunt. The Whizbang can determine exactly what is going to or from the battery .

For example - on a sunny day the MNGP display on your Classic shows it is  charging 50 amps. Without the Whizbang you don't know how many of those 50 amps are going to the battery and how many are going to a load like an inverter .  With the Whizbang it will show you the system amps - so in the above case if your inverter was using 40 amps you would be able to know that only 10 amps is going to the battery. And that is what is needed to calculate the SOC number too.

The shunt and Whizbang are very good investments that you could only reproduce by spending at least a couple hundred dollars on a meter like the Trimetric . But using the Whizbang integrated into the controls with the Classic gives you a lot of other monitoring and control options with the aux contacts also.  Another example is being able to use ending amps to stop absorb cycle and go to float.

Larry

Thanks for that, now I know more than ever. If only could be that simple to acquire these components up here in Canada.
On the hunt.....

[Westbranch]

I've dealt with these guys a couple of times, fast service IMHO  https://www.wegosolar.com/ on Van Island

[SolarMusher]

The shunt goes on negative cable to battery . So on the battery side of the shunt there is only one connection - the one going to the battery.  That means that all current going to or from the battery has to go through that shunt. The Whizbang can determine exactly what is going to or from the battery .

For example - on a sunny day the MNGP display on your Classic shows it is  charging 50 amps. Without the Whizbang you don't know how many of those 50 amps are going to the battery and how many are going to a load like an inverter .  With the Whizbang it will show you the system amps - so in the above case if your inverter was using 40 amps you would be able to know that only 10 amps is going to the battery. And that is what is needed to calculate the SOC number too.

The shunt and Whizbang are very good investments that you could only reproduce by spending at least a couple hundred dollars on a meter like the Trimetric . But using the Whizbang integrated into the controls with the Classic gives you a lot of other monitoring and control options with the aux contacts also.  Another example is being able to use ending amps to stop absorb cycle and go to float.

Larry

Thanks for that, now I know more than ever. If only could be that simple to acquire these components up here in Canada.
On the hunt.....

I can also sell what you need from Midnite and ship it everywhere in Canada, no matter where you are, from Qc to BC.
I'm also a Rolls battery dealer if you need batteries to your door.
See solairelaurentides.com and contact me at infosolairelaurentides.com (add @ after info)
A+
Erik

[CDN-VT]

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I can also sell what you need from Midnite and ship it everywhere in Canada, no matter where you are, from Qc to BC.
I'm also a Rolls battery dealer if you need batteries to your door.
See solairelaurentides.com and contact me at infosolairelaurentides.com (add @ after info)
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Erik
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http://solairelaurentides.com/

Site ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

English Dude !!
You must have an english site ?, Or your NOT allowed to promote it out of Qc & whats wrong with eastern of Qc .. They already put up the wall ?

Amazon is another  way . sign in for border less accounts .
Going to see many CDN companys drift away .

VT

[SolarMusher]

I can also sell what you need from Midnite and ship it everywhere in Canada, no matter where you are, from Qc to BC.
I'm also a Rolls battery dealer if you need batteries to your door.
See solairelaurentides.com and contact me at infosolairelaurentides.com (add @ after info)
A+
Erik

http://solairelaurentides.com/

Site ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

English Dude !!
You must have an english site ?, Or your NOT allowed to promote it out of Qc & whats wrong with eastern of Qc .. They already put up the wall ?

Amazon is another  way . sign in for border less accounts .
Going to see many CDN companys drift away .

VT

VT
Which wall? This wall is only in your head and I’m sorry that you can have such a bad feeling with Qc and eastern Canada just because French language is still spoken here.
To me, Amazon/Ebay is mostly an unfair way of doing business because it’s impossible for Canadian companies to compete with the same prices than US companies.
You’d better wondering why Canadian companies are uncommon on Ebay/Amazon and how/why US companies are able to sell at lower prices than Canadian.
Anyway, I’m not from Qc and there are a lot of things that doesn’t have sense to me here and there (like your post).
Did you know that the batteries you’re using were discovered by French people? You know those who are speaking French and eat frogs…
Have a nice day,
Erik