Question on making my own MC4 extension cables.

Started by TomW, October 13, 2016, 11:14:07 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

TomW

OK, folks. We are installing about 7 KW of panels at our new 90 year old house in the back yard. 2 dozen 310 watt panels on a Unirac ground mount.

I will need a bunch of extension cables to reach the combiner boxes. I got a couple dozen connector pairs, bulk cable, a crimper and an MC4 tool.

My question is about the MC4 tool. It is plastic and under any real torque tightening the gland nut the wrench slips and clicks. I have looked at a lot of videos and pages of instructions. A few mention tightening the gland nut until there is a click. Is this click they mention the wrench slipping or is my wrench set defective? I don't see how the connector gland nut can click there does not seem to be any mechanism to do that?

The MC4 tools:



These connectors seem stupid simple to assemble and I just want to be sure I am doing it right.

Any input appreciated.

Tom
Do NOT mistake me for any kind of "expert".

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

tecnodave

TomW,

The click is the jaw of the tool opening a little and letting it slip to the next notch on the MC-4 connector.............


I'm in the same boat, I have a pallet of new 96 cell frameless panels sitting in my drive in prep for a 10 kW. grid tie I'm doing locally for a freind.....Fronious inverter, midnite combiner, infinium 260 watt panels......a bit strange as they are 6" crystal size panels but have 5" crystals in 8X12 config.....close out...got them for $90USD , smoking deal....full 25 year warranty.....and yeah I bought spares as these are a bit non standard.....I make my own cables and prefer solder pot connectors but those are hard to get.....

Dave
#1 Classic 150 12 x Sharp NE-170, 2S6P, 24volt L-16 Rolls-Surette S-530, MS4024 & Cotek ,  C-40 dirv.cont. for hot water
#2 Classic 150 12 x Sharp NE-170, 2S6P, 24 volt L-16 Interstate,Brutus Inv.
#3 Kid/WBjr 4/6 Sanyo 200 watt multilayer 4/6 P
#4 Kid/WBjr 4/6 Sanyo 200 watt multilayer 2S 2/3 P

TomW

#2
Quote from: tecnodave on October 13, 2016, 12:29:07 PM
TomW,

The click is the jaw of the tool opening a little and letting it slip to the next notch on the MC-4 connector.............


Dave

I suppose that is the sign it is "tight enough"?

These gland nuts and rubber seals fit very tight even before I screw in the nut much.


Most of my solar installs were before MC-3 and MC-4 were commonly used. Split bolts and lots of 3M "Super 33" tape and NO-OX goop. I gotta say these MC-4 connectors must do a much better long term job.

Appreciate the feedback.

Tom
Do NOT mistake me for any kind of "expert".

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

tecnodave

TomW,

They do fit tight, the lock nut is not really required but mc-4 is an "safety upgrade" for the non locking mc-3 type connector formerly used.

Dave





#1 Classic 150 12 x Sharp NE-170, 2S6P, 24volt L-16 Rolls-Surette S-530, MS4024 & Cotek ,  C-40 dirv.cont. for hot water
#2 Classic 150 12 x Sharp NE-170, 2S6P, 24 volt L-16 Interstate,Brutus Inv.
#3 Kid/WBjr 4/6 Sanyo 200 watt multilayer 4/6 P
#4 Kid/WBjr 4/6 Sanyo 200 watt multilayer 2S 2/3 P

CDN-VT

Every cable size has a different feeling and the tools will act as the cable your using . I have Titan  Wire & cable as well NY supplier of PV . I would buy many more terminals in male & female ends as if the crimp sucks . I have lots & the best crimpers , but still waste a few. SDG is also what I use to make sure.
7mm PV is the semi norm , but heavy use COM2 is 8mm and they have a different seal  ..

VT
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

russ_drinkwater

I solder all my mc4 leads I make when required.
There is a crimping tool, but I like the soldered joint!
The end caps I tighten up by hand as with their design there is little chance of moisture getting in especially if mounted under
the panels or in conjute.
Standalone. 20 Hyundai x 220 watts panels, 2 x classic 150's, Latronics 24 volt 3kw inverter, Whiz bang Jnr, 12 Rolls surrete  4KS 25P  batteries and WBJ.
Grid tie feed-in, 12.5 kw in 3 arrays generating 50 kws per day average. Solar river grid tie inverters