LiFePO4 comparison chart

Started by ClassicCrazy, June 04, 2024, 04:30:00 PM

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ClassicCrazy

Here is a good comparison chart of lifepo4 cells for those who might want to make their own battery.
I ordered a JKBMS and will probably be getting some EVE cells soon.
https://www.gobelpower.com/battery_cell_database_ap14.html
Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

boB


Thank you Larry !   That is a good sheet !
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ClassicCrazy

Surprising on how the specs are so different on some cells from the same manufacturer.
Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

boB

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on June 04, 2024, 07:59:36 PMSurprising on how the specs are so different on some cells from the same manufacturer.
Larry

Yes.   Except for the 3.2V part I think.

It's  a neat charge for sure !

boB
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Hockey

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on June 04, 2024, 07:59:36 PMSurprising on how the specs are so different on some cells from the same manufacturer.
Larry


I always thought that 2.5V was the absolute lowest a LiFePO4 cell should ever drop to.  Surprised to see from the chart, some manufacturers have 2.0V.   There's not much left in a LiFePO4 in that last 1/2 volt, so probably best for a BMS to cut off at 2.5V (or even higher.)

ClassicCrazy

Quote from: Hockey on June 20, 2024, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: ClassicCrazy on June 04, 2024, 07:59:36 PMSurprising on how the specs are so different on some cells from the same manufacturer.
Larry


I always thought that 2.5V was the absolute lowest a LiFePO4 cell should ever drop to.  Surprised to see from the chart, some manufacturers have 2.0V.   There's not much left in a LiFePO4 in that last 1/2 volt, so probably best for a BMS to cut off at 2.5V (or even higher.)

probably is more like the kill the cell stage.
But I have some Calb cells that I thought I ruined. First lithium I got when I didn't know anything and took some poor advice on them, and also didn't have a bms because at the time there was not really much available like these days and what was there expensive. They sat around uncharged for years and I had thought when I gave up on them some cells were really at bad stage. But last year I got them out , put some charge in each one, then put the pack back together and they charged up . I have not load tested them yet but plan to see what they can do.  I have heard other people say they have brought dead lithiums back by some repeated chargings but forget the details.
Hopefully I am lucky and now I know much much more about LiFePO4
Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

mahendra

Hey Larry Calbs are great I know I have been using them since 2018.
Did so with out bms for a long time.
Mine also sat for an about a year purchased in 2017.
Got one of those battery resistance meter(don't know if they are any good) recently and turns out they are in really good shape.
I tested against smaller similar cells that would have failed .Not an accurate test but at least I know from daily use they still seem new after 6 plus years.
1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv