Solar Assistant

[rs50pilot]

The changelog for solar assistant says they added rosie to the list.

Do we just connect to the canbus and go?

Anything special we have to do?

[FNG]

You need the USB to canbus cable and follow the attached pinout

[Off Grid Salt Spring]

Will Solar Assistant now allow us to access monitoring (and/or programming options) on the Rosie remotely? Will the Classic 150s etc also be accessible there? or just Hawkes and Barcelona? Is it fully functional and online, or still in testing phases? I've installed a couple of Rosie's now and am about to quote another. I would love to be able to tell clients that their entire MidNite System can now be monitored!
Thanks

[aaapilot]

Will Solar Assistant now allow us to access monitoring (and/or programming options) on the Rosie remotely? Will the Classic 150s etc also be accessible there? or just Hawkes and Barcelona? Is it fully functional and online, or still in testing phases? I've installed a couple of Rosie's now and am about to quote another. I would love to be able to tell clients that their entire MidNite System can now be monitored!
Thanks

You can monitor Rosie and any Battery system that SA supports.  In my case, I have a Hawks Bay & Classic feeding Rosie & 6 Pytes V5 batteries.  Below are pics of the SA screens.  It doesn't show a separate screen for the Hawks Bay, but the 'Solar PV' is the HB output.  It doesn't show the Classic output as a separate reading, but the load, battery charging, and grid sell numbers does include the Classic input as well as the Hawks Bay.  You can't adjust settings as yet, though MN said that may come in future updates to SA.

Dave

[Off Grid Salt Spring]

Awesome, thanks for that info! I'm excited to set it up! Since I have been using Rolls FLAs with no BMS on my off-grid jobs, I'm assuming SA will simply display the battery voltage, and perhaps the SOC as well (whizbang jr)?

Are there any setup/installation instructions or videos to get the system and components registered and online?

Cheers,

[aaapilot]

Awesome, thanks for that info! I'm excited to set it up! Since I have been using Rolls FLAs with no BMS on my off-grid jobs, I'm assuming SA will simply display the battery voltage, and perhaps the SOC as well (whizbang jr)?

Are there any setup/installation instructions or videos to get the system and components registered and online?

Cheers,

The SA website is self-explanatory.  I just followed their instructions and all went fine.  You need to figure out which cables you need based for your equipment & if you need to connect a Rosie, you'll need to crimp on one end of a Cat5/6 cable for the Canbus.  Good luck w/your set up!

Dave

[rs50pilot]

I'm glad someone's works. I can't get mine to read rosie. Working on it with SA.

[FNG]

I'm glad someone's works. I can't get mine to read rosie. Working on it with SA.

I have been working with SA on this issue and doing a lot of testing. I am thinking of a couple possibilities here

1- You used the included USB to serial cable not the special USB to CAN? SA includes a cable that looks very similar to the USB to CAN with the device but itis USB to serial
2- The termination is not correct in some way either the pinout or maybe a strand of wire got across the pin 4 and 5?

If you are confident on both fronts here is what I would do:
1- With SA cable unplugged from CANBUS and SA box go to USER--> MNGP2--> CANBUS STATISTICS
2- While watching the failed packet counter at the bottom plug in JUST the CANBUS end of the cable. Does the Failed packet count start going up quickly?

If so I suspect either a bad cable or something in the crimp. It is entirely possible the cable could be bad in the can transceiver area for sure but this would rule a few things out

[aaapilot]

Ryan posted a YouTube video describing the process.

https://youtube.com/@aroundthehomesteadwithsuer3497?si=j7vxbbmJeVfmwZnV

Dave

[Brucey]

Will Solar Assistant now allow us to access monitoring (and/or programming options) on the Rosie remotely? Will the Classic 150s etc also be accessible there? or just Hawkes and Barcelona? Is it fully functional and online, or still in testing phases? I've installed a couple of Rosie's now and am about to quote another. I would love to be able to tell clients that their entire MidNite System can now be monitored!
Thanks

You can monitor Rosie and any Battery system that SA supports.  In my case, I have a Hawks Bay & Classic feeding Rosie & 6 Pytes V5 batteries.  Below are pics of the SA screens.  It doesn't show a separate screen for the Hawks Bay, but the 'Solar PV' is the HB output.  It doesn't show the Classic output as a separate reading, but the load, battery charging, and grid sell numbers does include the Classic input as well as the Hawks Bay.  You can't adjust settings as yet, though MN said that may come in future updates to SA.

Dave

Curious why it's showing 125V per leg is that a Solar assistant bug? My mngp2 shows 120V per leg and 239/240V. Still have to recrimp my canbus to usb cable for solar assistant to check myself.

[aaapilot]

Will Solar Assistant now allow us to access monitoring (and/or programming options) on the Rosie remotely? Will the Classic 150s etc also be accessible there? or just Hawkes and Barcelona? Is it fully functional and online, or still in testing phases? I've installed a couple of Rosie's now and am about to quote another. I would love to be able to tell clients that their entire MidNite System can now be monitored!
Thanks

You can monitor Rosie and any Battery system that SA supports.  In my case, I have a Hawks Bay & Classic feeding Rosie & 6 Pytes V5 batteries.  Below are pics of the SA screens.  It doesn't show a separate screen for the Hawks Bay, but the 'Solar PV' is the HB output.  It doesn't show the Classic output as a separate reading, but the load, battery charging, and grid sell numbers does include the Classic input as well as the Hawks Bay.  You can't adjust settings as yet, though MN said that may come in future updates to SA.

Dave

Curious why it's showing 125V per leg is that a Solar assistant bug? My mngp2 shows 120V per leg and 239/240V. Still have to recrimp my canbus to usb cable for solar assistant to check myself.

Not a SA bug.  In my case, our grid supplied power hovers around 125v, +/- 1v.  Very stable and reliable utility power. When Rosie kicks in, she provides extremely stable 120v on each leg.

Dave

[Brucey]

Ah sorry forgot about connecting to grid Mine has never run its charger.

[rs50pilot]

I'm glad someone's works. I can't get mine to read rosie. Working on it with SA.

I have been working with SA on this issue and doing a lot of testing. I am thinking of a couple possibilities here

1- You used the included USB to serial cable not the special USB to CAN? SA includes a cable that looks very similar to the USB to CAN with the device but itis USB to serial
2- The termination is not correct in some way either the pinout or maybe a strand of wire got across the pin 4 and 5?

If you are confident on both fronts here is what I would do:
1- With SA cable unplugged from CANBUS and SA box go to USER--> MNGP2--> CANBUS STATISTICS
2- While watching the failed packet counter at the bottom plug in JUST the CANBUS end of the cable. Does the Failed packet count start going up quickly?

If so I suspect either a bad cable or something in the crimp. It is entirely possible the cable could be bad in the can transceiver area for sure but this would rule a few things out

I did purchase the cable from SA.
I initially wired it as shown.  As soon as I plugged it into the MNPG2 I get thousands of errors.

I reversed CAN hi and low, plugged it in, NO errors and it didn't work. TX RX issue I suppose, but wanted to try incase I was looking at the picture wrong. 

I just went and unplugged the blue terminator and got no errors?  I that supposed to be right? Since the CAN bus is open, shouldn't it throw an error?

Next I crimped another end on with the wires as they are supposed to be,  plugged into the MNPG2 only and no errors, once I plug into the PI, instant errors again.

I have been running my SA site for 3 years now, so it is not new.  I can see my batteries just fine, however Rosie NO LIKEY it . 

I have contacted SA and they don't have an answer yet.  My Rosie has been acting strange and shutting herself off for no good reason. After the latest update, she has been fine for now, so not sure if there is something in her that doesn't want to be monitored

Just a note, the RJ45 terminals they send with the cable are a pain.  Very hard to see where the wires go.  Would be nice for older eyes if they sent it the pass through style or just a plain flat stacked end.  That is beside the point. 

Hopefully someone can figure this out.  I see it does work,  maybe it's because I live in CA..  pretty bad when your inverter doesn't even want to live in this State.  I will be gone soon, thank God.

[FNG]

I'm glad someone's works. I can't get mine to read rosie. Working on it with SA.

I have been working with SA on this issue and doing a lot of testing. I am thinking of a couple possibilities here

1- You used the included USB to serial cable not the special USB to CAN? SA includes a cable that looks very similar to the USB to CAN with the device but itis USB to serial
2- The termination is not correct in some way either the pinout or maybe a strand of wire got across the pin 4 and 5?

If you are confident on both fronts here is what I would do:
1- With SA cable unplugged from CANBUS and SA box go to USER--> MNGP2--> CANBUS STATISTICS
2- While watching the failed packet counter at the bottom plug in JUST the CANBUS end of the cable. Does the Failed packet count start going up quickly?

If so I suspect either a bad cable or something in the crimp. It is entirely possible the cable could be bad in the can transceiver area for sure but this would rule a few things out

I did purchase the cable from SA.
I initially wired it as shown.  As soon as I plugged it into the MNPG2 I get thousands of errors.

I reversed CAN hi and low, plugged it in, NO errors and it didn't work. TX RX issue I suppose, but wanted to try incase I was looking at the picture wrong. 

I just went and unplugged the blue terminator and got no errors?  I that supposed to be right? Since the CAN bus is open, shouldn't it throw an error?

Next I crimped another end on with the wires as they are supposed to be,  plugged into the MNPG2 only and no errors, once I plug into the PI, instant errors again.

I have been running my SA site for 3 years now, so it is not new.  I can see my batteries just fine, however Rosie NO LIKEY it . 

I have contacted SA and they don't have an answer yet.  My Rosie has been acting strange and shutting herself off for no good reason. After the latest update, she has been fine for now, so not sure if there is something in her that doesn't want to be monitored

Just a note, the RJ45 terminals they send with the cable are a pain.  Very hard to see where the wires go.  Would be nice for older eyes if they sent it the pass through style or just a plain flat stacked end.  That is beside the point. 

Hopefully someone can figure this out.  I see it does work,  maybe it's because I live in CA..  pretty bad when your inverter doesn't even want to live in this State.  I will be gone soon, thank God.

Is this same SA box monitoring other things as well at the same time? It sort of sounds like it is clobbering the canbus for some reason?

[aaapilot]

I'm glad someone's works. I can't get mine to read rosie. Working on it with SA.

I have been working with SA on this issue and doing a lot of testing. I am thinking of a couple possibilities here

1- You used the included USB to serial cable not the special USB to CAN? SA includes a cable that looks very similar to the USB to CAN with the device but itis USB to serial
2- The termination is not correct in some way either the pinout or maybe a strand of wire got across the pin 4 and 5?

If you are confident on both fronts here is what I would do:
1- With SA cable unplugged from CANBUS and SA box go to USER--> MNGP2--> CANBUS STATISTICS
2- While watching the failed packet counter at the bottom plug in JUST the CANBUS end of the cable. Does the Failed packet count start going up quickly?

If so I suspect either a bad cable or something in the crimp. It is entirely possible the cable could be bad in the can transceiver area for sure but this would rule a few things out

I did purchase the cable from SA.
I initially wired it as shown.  As soon as I plugged it into the MNPG2 I get thousands of errors.

I reversed CAN hi and low, plugged it in, NO errors and it didn't work. TX RX issue I suppose, but wanted to try incase I was looking at the picture wrong. 

I just went and unplugged the blue terminator and got no errors?  I that supposed to be right? Since the CAN bus is open, shouldn't it throw an error?

Next I crimped another end on with the wires as they are supposed to be,  plugged into the MNPG2 only and no errors, once I plug into the PI, instant errors again.

I have been running my SA site for 3 years now, so it is not new.  I can see my batteries just fine, however Rosie NO LIKEY it . 

I have contacted SA and they don't have an answer yet.  My Rosie has been acting strange and shutting herself off for no good reason. After the latest update, she has been fine for now, so not sure if there is something in her that doesn't want to be monitored

Just a note, the RJ45 terminals they send with the cable are a pain.  Very hard to see where the wires go.  Would be nice for older eyes if they sent it the pass through style or just a plain flat stacked end.  That is beside the point. 

Hopefully someone can figure this out.  I see it does work,  maybe it's because I live in CA..  pretty bad when your inverter doesn't even want to live in this State.  I will be gone soon, thank God.

Based on what FNG posted, have you tried unplugging all other SA monitored hardware & just have Rosie plugged in?  I'm sure you know, but be sure you have SA in BETA mode for software download.  The Rosie data is not in the stable release yet, so you must REQUEST the BETA software option and download/install it once SA makes it available to you.

Dave