Getting a classic to communicate with a cerbo gx

Started by Bullet, February 28, 2025, 04:33:54 PM

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Bullet

So I have a classic 150 which has worked well for years, but I replaced my inverters with victron multiplus. Question is, is there a way to get the classic to talk to the victron equipment so I can monitor it though the vrm? Not a fan of victron and don't recommend them to anyone but I'm stuck with them for now. Any help is appreciated.

ClassicCrazy

I don't know about Victron . But there are other ways to monitor the Classic.
There is Classic Monitor android app that Graham made.
https://github.com/ClassicDIY/ClassicMonitor
Look on the wiki on above link for details.
You used to be able to get that app on Playstore but that might not be available any longer and you would have to download the apk from the github to your phone and install it from there.
There is also another new way to monitor Classic via IP directly to Home Assistant .
Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

mcsarge

#2
I have successfully integrated our Classic 150 (with WizBang) with our Victron Cerbo GX and Victron Interer/Charger. You have to add some software to the Cerbo GX that will talk to the Modbus of the Classic. Works really well. I had to make some modifications to the software I found online. Here is the link to a discussion:
https://communityarchive.victronenergy.com/questions/48101/midnite-classic-modbus-support.html?childToView=223879#answer-223879

You should probably read the whole thread, but I can talk you through it if you need help.

Here is my GitHub with the corrected versions of the software:
https://github.com/mcsarge/venus-midnite


Matt
Off Grid Island in Ontario Canada (Beaverstone Bay)
Primary: Classic 150 + wbjr; 3s2p HES 270watt
Winter: SolarBoost 50 MPPT (into wbjr); 2s x Sharp 80watt + 2s x Solec 100W
Pack: 4s2p ROLLS S6-460AGM 6V for 24V pack
Inverter/Charger: Victron Quattro 5000 Watts, 24 Volts DC
Call Sign: KG4EUF

ClassicCrazy

Quote from: mcsarge on March 05, 2025, 02:48:26 PMI have successfully integrated our Classic 150 (with WizBang) with our Victron Cerbo GX and Victron Interer/Charger. You have to add some software to the Cerbo GX that will talk to the Modbus of the Classic. Works really well. I had to make some modifications to the software I found online. Here is the link to a discussion:
https://communityarchive.victronenergy.com/questions/48101/midnite-classic-modbus-support.html?childToView=223879#answer-223879

You should probably read the whole thread, but I can talk you through it if you need help.

Here is my GitHub with the corrected versions of the software:
https://github.com/mcsarge/venus-midnite


Matt
Matt
Graham recently made an updated Classic to Mqtt that lets Home Assistant modbus directly to the Classic - in case you are interested and use HA.  Not sure if he updated it on github or not yet.
Larry 
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

mcsarge

Larry,

I get it, but the Victon Cerbo is a nice unit with a really nice UI touch pad - getting the Classic to provide Solar Array data and shunt information is really cool - the system will then display a live view of the power flowing around the system - for instance the Inverter/Charger knows how much power is coming from the generator and then how much is going out the A/C and the WhizBang shows the current into the battery pack. The Classic can provide the current and voltage that the solar panels are making and it is all displayed in a cool little graphic that you can see on the UI or if you bring up the display over the Victron web. It works well and can coexist with the ClassicMQTT quite well.
Off Grid Island in Ontario Canada (Beaverstone Bay)
Primary: Classic 150 + wbjr; 3s2p HES 270watt
Winter: SolarBoost 50 MPPT (into wbjr); 2s x Sharp 80watt + 2s x Solec 100W
Pack: 4s2p ROLLS S6-460AGM 6V for 24V pack
Inverter/Charger: Victron Quattro 5000 Watts, 24 Volts DC
Call Sign: KG4EUF

ClassicCrazy

The Victron with Classic sounds like a nice setup and system Matt.
I may have to try it out . This winter I just started with Home Assistant and have been trying out some of it's graphics though I don't have them all set up correctly yet.
I hear  good things about the Victron software.
here is a look at what I  have so far ( no sun on them now so not too exciting)
Larry

 
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

mcsarge

That is very cool, and quite similar to how the Victron shows the flow of energy around the system. I won't be able to get a picture until we re-energize the system in the Spring.
Off Grid Island in Ontario Canada (Beaverstone Bay)
Primary: Classic 150 + wbjr; 3s2p HES 270watt
Winter: SolarBoost 50 MPPT (into wbjr); 2s x Sharp 80watt + 2s x Solec 100W
Pack: 4s2p ROLLS S6-460AGM 6V for 24V pack
Inverter/Charger: Victron Quattro 5000 Watts, 24 Volts DC
Call Sign: KG4EUF