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Started by Weldman, November 27, 2025, 08:34:23 PM

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Weldman

Been running the Beta Rosie for about 2 years now, each time an update comes out it is either good or bad on what AAC I can charge my 1010Ah battery. Sometimes it's 18 AAC and pushing in about 80 plus amps other times it's like recent it's only 6 AAC of only 20 something amps. Running 9.5kW generator and wanting to know is my generator too small, what size should I be running or the max I need?

bigbillsd

 A 9.5Kw Genny is a good size.  Larger than my 7.5Kw QD.  Are you saying you need to keep messing with the Charge Amps?  Why?  What is it doing that makes you change it? 

Weldman

Quote from: bigbillsd on November 29, 2025, 04:21:10 PMA 9.5Kw Genny is a good size.  Larger than my 7.5Kw QD.  Are you saying you need to keep messing with the Charge Amps?  Why?  What is it doing that makes you change it? 
Keeps kicking it off when they are too high, some updates it can run it up to around 80A, some updates only get it to around 30A.

bigbillsd

Quote from: Weldman on December 02, 2025, 07:20:46 AM
Quote from: bigbillsd on November 29, 2025, 04:21:10 PMA 9.5Kw Genny is a good size.  Larger than my 7.5Kw QD.  Are you saying you need to keep messing with the Charge Amps?  Why?  What is it doing that makes you change it? 
Keeps kicking it off when they are too high, some updates it can run it up to around 80A, some updates only get it to around 30A.

That's not good.  I want to order one, but I keep reading about Genny issues and I only have one, so it must work whenever I need it. 

Will it still pass thru the generator power and just not charge the batteries or does it kick off the same for that too? 

Weldman

Quote from: bigbillsd on December 03, 2025, 12:13:54 PM
Quote from: Weldman on December 02, 2025, 07:20:46 AM
Quote from: bigbillsd on November 29, 2025, 04:21:10 PMA 9.5Kw Genny is a good size.  Larger than my 7.5Kw QD.  Are you saying you need to keep messing with the Charge Amps?  Why?  What is it doing that makes you change it? 
Keeps kicking it off when they are too high, some updates it can run it up to around 80A, some updates only get it to around 30A.

That's not good.  I want to order one, but I keep reading about Genny issues and I only have one, so it must work whenever I need it. 

Will it still pass thru the generator power and just not charge the batteries or does it kick off the same for that too? 
You can have it where it just passes through and not charge the batteries or it charges the batteries while you are pulling from the batteries. When it is charging the batteries while pulling from the battery is where my problem is. Yes I need to buy a standalone battery charger for where I live.
I live in Montana off grid as in nearest neighbor is 3 miles away, cell phone is non existent without satellite, and it's an hour to town.

Brucey

Are you guys doing factory resets after each firmware upgrade?

Weldman

Quote from: Brucey on December 05, 2025, 08:53:04 AMAre you guys doing factory resets after each firmware upgrade?
Nope, it resets itself and on we go.

bigbillsd

Quote from: Weldman on December 07, 2025, 07:22:27 AMNope, it resets itself and on we go.

After it resets itself do you have to reconfigure the battery settings and other stuff?   (if not closed loop)  -Bill

ClassicCrazy

Usually after the more major firmware updates you reset to factory defaults so that any changes can take effect and make sure there is nothing from old firmware still in memory. Yes after reset , then you do have to enter all the settings again.
Larry
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Brucey

Quote from: Weldman on December 07, 2025, 07:22:27 AM
Quote from: Brucey on December 05, 2025, 08:53:04 AMAre you guys doing factory resets after each firmware upgrade?
Nope, it resets itself and on we go.
I would make a note of all your settings and then do a factory reset of the MNGP2 and then the Rosie.

Especially as you've been having issues with gen breaker settings.

Weldman

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on December 07, 2025, 02:45:32 PMUsually after the more major firmware updates you reset to factory defaults so that any changes can take effect and make sure there is nothing from old firmware still in memory. Yes after reset , then you do have to enter all the settings again.
Larry
Quote from: Brucey on December 07, 2025, 06:31:18 PM
Quote from: Weldman on December 07, 2025, 07:22:27 AM
Quote from: Brucey on December 05, 2025, 08:53:04 AMAre you guys doing factory resets after each firmware upgrade?
Nope, it resets itself and on we go.
I would make a note of all your settings and then do a factory reset of the MNGP2 and then the Rosie.

Especially as you've been having issues with gen breaker settings.
Reset everything as needed on Rosie and the MNGP 2 still same results as if I didn't nothing except make it worse. Going into winter and just like the previous two winters, this system has me limping throughout the winter drinking was more gas than needed to keep going. Nope can't do it anymore. I will sell the unit and move on to a unit that doesn't require updates throughout the year. People in their comfy homes in Washington state don't understand as most of the US, we live off grid as in you are an hour away from any cell phone signal if power goes down which means no tech support, no downloading updates. Temperatures plummet to -40°F out here.

Brucey

Has your beta Rosie ever been replaced? Wonder if theres something busted in it.

BlackwaterPark

Quote from: Weldman on December 04, 2025, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: bigbillsd on December 03, 2025, 12:13:54 PM
Quote from: Weldman on December 02, 2025, 07:20:46 AM
Quote from: bigbillsd on November 29, 2025, 04:21:10 PMA 9.5Kw Genny is a good size.  Larger than my 7.5Kw QD.  Are you saying you need to keep messing with the Charge Amps?  Why?  What is it doing that makes you change it? 
Keeps kicking it off when they are too high, some updates it can run it up to around 80A, some updates only get it to around 30A.

That's not good.  I want to order one, but I keep reading about Genny issues and I only have one, so it must work whenever I need it. 

Will it still pass thru the generator power and just not charge the batteries or does it kick off the same for that too? 
You can have it where it just passes through and not charge the batteries or it charges the batteries while you are pulling from the batteries. When it is charging the batteries while pulling from the battery is where my problem is. Yes I need to buy a standalone battery charger for where I live.
I live in Montana off grid as in nearest neighbor is 3 miles away, cell phone is non existent without satellite, and it's an hour to town.

If it's any help, I gave up on the charger part of the "inverter/charger" units, and I don't bother with the one on my Rosie either. I use stand alones because they just work. I used to use Iota chargers, but the last three years i've been using the Chargeverter and it's done a really nice job, for whatever that's worth to you. It doesn't give two shits what your thd is, and is efficiency is about 97% when running 95a, as I run mine.

Weldman

Quote from: Brucey on December 09, 2025, 10:43:43 AMHas your beta Rosie ever been replaced? Wonder if theres something busted in it.
Yes it has been replaced once so far. The last time it was replaced they were trying to mimic the temperatures that are out here and supposedly were going to try it on dry ice. I asked to see what they came up when they got it and tested it, didn't hear anything back.
Quote from: BlackwaterPark on December 09, 2025, 01:44:45 PM
Quote from: Weldman on December 04, 2025, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: bigbillsd on December 03, 2025, 12:13:54 PM
Quote from: Weldman on December 02, 2025, 07:20:46 AM
Quote from: bigbillsd on November 29, 2025, 04:21:10 PMA 9.5Kw Genny is a good size.  Larger than my 7.5Kw QD.  Are you saying you need to keep messing with the Charge Amps?  Why?  What is it doing that makes you change it? 
Keeps kicking it off when they are too high, some updates it can run it up to around 80A, some updates only get it to around 30A.

That's not good.  I want to order one, but I keep reading about Genny issues and I only have one, so it must work whenever I need it. 

Will it still pass thru the generator power and just not charge the batteries or does it kick off the same for that too? 
You can have it where it just passes through and not charge the batteries or it charges the batteries while you are pulling from the batteries. When it is charging the batteries while pulling from the battery is where my problem is. Yes I need to buy a standalone battery charger for where I live.
I live in Montana off grid as in nearest neighbor is 3 miles away, cell phone is non existent without satellite, and it's an hour to town.

If it's any help, I gave up on the charger part of the "inverter/charger" units, and I don't bother with the one on my Rosie either. I use stand alones because they just work. I used to use Iota chargers, but the last three years i've been using the Chargeverter and it's done a really nice job, for whatever that's worth to you. It doesn't give two shits what your thd is, and is efficiency is about 97% when running 95a, as I run mine.
That helps a LOT! Where did you get yours from?

BlackwaterPark

Signature Solar. I got it when it was $350, but they are 650 now. Still worth it to not have to put up with the hassles that you are going through, imo. The tech with these inverters and all-in-ones has gotten to the point where it is more a hindrance than a benefit, from what i've experienced and seen others go through.