New Beta code for Battery Meter and SOC%

Started by Halfcrazy, January 24, 2014, 11:01:12 AM

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Halfcrazy

Tom
Sorry for the lack of the details. Glad you got it going. I suspect boB will release a "How To" as soon as we get the last couple details nailed. We are adding Temperature Compensation to AH Capacity now and then it should be pretty good.

Ryan
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TomW

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Quote from: Halfcrazy on January 25, 2014, 09:19:00 AM
Tom
Sorry for the lack of the details. Glad you got it going. I suspect boB will release a "How To" as soon as we get the last couple details nailed. We are adding Temperature Compensation to AH Capacity now and then it should be pretty good.

Ryan

Ryan;

Glad to help find stuff! That is the fun part of testing.

How does lifetime AH affect the SOC setting if at all?

More questions than answers

At least we found it pretty quick. Like DGD mentioned, I am curious about the glyphs /runes on the corner of the cover?

Thanks.

Tom
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Tons001

My default efficiency was 10% but Tom was 61% ... should I move it to something other than 10%? I want to stay the Trimetric defaulted to 94% when I had it before the WBjr. 
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Westbranch

#18
If you are talking about battery efficiency, I believe most new batteries will be in the 90 - 99% range and most around 95% + from what I have read. I used 97% on my XBM when it was operating.
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Tons001

Thanks Westbranch.  I set it to 94% because that worked well with the Trimetric.
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zoneblue

Again please a plea for concurent MNGP/localapp updates. Lites users will not be able to test or use these features otherwise. Still waiting for days between bulk, and WbJr EA... in particular.
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Tons001

So is the SOC % just calculated on WBjr. net (-) amps divided battery capacity or does voltage come into play somewhere? Everything appears to be up and functional here.
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boB

Hi guys...

SOC % is based on Amp-Hours out and in only.  A good starting point efficiency is 94%.

Capacity should be whatever your battery label is, but if you know different, set it to that.
One day it may have auto-capacity detect over many cycles but right now it doesn't.

Remember that the regular Amp-Hours on the 2nd status screen and the NET Amp-Hours are NOT
part of SOC%. However, you may find a tweak to have the NET amp-hours reset at full (absorb to float)

There is only SOC % and remaining Amp-Hours so far.

When the Classic goes from Absorb to Float (naturally or forced), the SOC % will go to 100% and
the amp-hours remaining will reset to the capacity entered in the setup screen.

Also, if you have just turned on the Classic and it has not gone to Float yet, the SOC % number (100% ?)
will be blinking/flashing on and off once per second.  After it goes to Float the first time, it will stay on
solid to indicate that it is "believable"...

boB
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vtmaps

Quote from: boB on January 26, 2014, 01:17:03 AM
When the Classic goes from Absorb to Float (naturally or forced), the SOC % will go to 100% and
the amp-hours remaining will reset to the capacity entered in the setup screen.

Also, if you have just turned on the Classic and it has not gone to Float yet, the SOC % number (100% ?)
will be blinking/flashing on and off once per second.  After it goes to Float the first time, it will stay on
solid to indicate that it is "believable"...

And if I were to run my generator at night and get my batteries fully charged, how would I reset the SOC?  Can the classic be forced to float at night?

--vtMaps

atop8918

Sorry about the SNAFU on the Local App update. My Internet went out on Friday and I didn't get a chance to post the update. I will get the latest LA update up as soon as possible. Posting this from the coffee shop around the corner...

-A

ClassicCrazy

Loaded up the firmware update and local status update on two different classics and it all went okay. Does the Whizbang reset value every day make a difference on this calculation ? It looks like the SOC will only use the other values that don't change . So that means it will have to balance out positive before the SOC will read ?

Glad to see this update - thanks
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Tons001

I am really liking WhizBang Jr. window in the 0.3.36 local app update. Thanks all!
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dgd

#27
yes, it is a nice addition  :)

However, I would really like to see a battery meter display in a similar style to the local app.
Perhaps a screen with analogue meters for battery voltage,  battery amps in/out using a -200 to zero to +200 amps or some other scalable units and battery SOC% meter. All with digital figures under the scale as per present local app.
But would having this as a separate app mean there would be a problem with the Classic that talks with the WBjr because of the 'just one' tcp connection?
Ideally one local app per Classic then this one battery status display.

Also are there some modbus registers that make this soc information available?
dgd
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boB


The SOC% updates to full 100% when the Classic goes from absorb to float.

There should be an update in just a few days with the SOC stuff in it.

Yes, there are registers with all the info in them.  Will also update the modbus document in just a couple of days.

boB
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vtmaps

Quote from: boB on January 28, 2014, 03:33:55 AM
The SOC% updates to full 100% when the Classic goes from absorb to float.

How would I get it to reset to 100% if I charge the batteries at night with generator?

--vtMaps