Battery EQ and BMS discussion.

Started by australsolarier, February 22, 2016, 11:44:50 PM

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ClassicCrazy

Don't know for solar - but I have a LiFePo4 48v 10ah battery on my electric bicycle and have been using it for 5+ years . I only replaced a cell or two but that was because I my charger failed and I didn't know what I was doing so messed them up. But all in all I have about 10,000 miles on that battery pack and I would say it is still 60 to 70 % of original capacity despite having it bounce around and get wet in the back carrier of my bike.  No way lead acid would ever have come close to this kind of performance.

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

russ_drinkwater

Where was that particular cell made Larry?
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Grid tie feed-in, 12.5 kw in 3 arrays generating 50 kws per day average. Solar river grid tie inverters

ClassicCrazy

They are called Headway cells - got them on a group purchase - at the time they were hard to come by .
Lots of places sell them now but who knows if they are all from same source .
I just did a search and found this supplier
http://www.headway-headquarters.com/lithium-lifepo4-cells/

Endless Sphere is great  place for battery and electric vehicle info
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=f49fbb0f722e6a339e4388db7bdad922
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

russ_drinkwater

Reason i ask is I was watching a doco on lithium salt mining in a semi-desert part of the states (can not recall exact area).
From memory it was being used for medication and battery manufacture.
Also there was not a lot of suitable areas in the states  fro lithium production.
Surely lithium cells made in the usa would be a better more reliable item than a lot coming out of china?
Standalone. 20 Hyundai x 220 watts panels, 2 x classic 150's, Latronics 24 volt 3kw inverter, Whiz bang Jnr, 12 Rolls surrete  4KS 25P  batteries and WBJ.
Grid tie feed-in, 12.5 kw in 3 arrays generating 50 kws per day average. Solar river grid tie inverters

Westbranch

I assume you mean the LiFePO4 ones in use daily by a consumer and not lab variety for life....

Anyone know what the age of the oldest fully functioning lithium cell is?
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australsolarier

russ drinkwater

that lithium mining area is in nevada. giant factory making batteries for the tesla.

as for the lasting of lithium batteries, your friend Kurt seems to have a bicycle battery he reckons he charged a 1000 times, if i remember correctly. and is still going strong. and abused into the bargain.

russ_drinkwater

Yeah, I know he has several different lithium packs he has picked up second hand and also purchased new.
Being in the right place at the right time, lol.
Just curious what life the lithium cells in the PC towers have as well.
Some are well designed and made to last and there is also the other end of the spectrum which is just crap and disguised
to appear as a good product. But has inferior performance and no longevity.
Standalone. 20 Hyundai x 220 watts panels, 2 x classic 150's, Latronics 24 volt 3kw inverter, Whiz bang Jnr, 12 Rolls surrete  4KS 25P  batteries and WBJ.
Grid tie feed-in, 12.5 kw in 3 arrays generating 50 kws per day average. Solar river grid tie inverters