Wake Up Call

[plongson]

Thanks guys,
Where is the download for the MNGP? All I'm seeing on the site is the 04-29-2012 firmware??

[boB]

Thanks guys,
Where is the download for the MNGP? All I'm seeing on the site is the 04-29-2012 firmware??

The MNGP software comes with the Classic software.  Instead of clicking on  "Classic 250"
in the update screen, click on MNGP.   Still, you have to turn off the Classic first, click
"MNGP"  and then power up the classic.  The MNGP updates through the Classic just
as if you were updating the Classic.

The MNGP will take longer to update though since it has more code in it.

boB

[plongson]

Great, boB,
I'LL get on it first thing in the morning.

EDIT: Before I got a chance to update the MNGP firmware it had woke up this morning and was on BULK MPPT. HOORAY, so I know it will work until I get a chance to work on it again. The two things I changed were increasing the MINIMUM absorb time up to 1 hr from 1 minute and setting the date correctly.

I know you guys are going to get tired of hearing it but, you provide absolutely the best product support I think I have ever had. You have a fabulous product and respond to problems super fast and are VERY professional and friendly.

If anyone cares to ask, I will surly recommend Midnite to ANYONE! Keep up the good work...

THANKS AGAIN!

Paul

[Vic]

boB,

Thanks for the info on the MNGP code version's effect on the time.

My classics are in the 1660 to 1680 S/N range,  forget the exact #s.  These both have the original 11-09-11 code,  so that is probably the issue here.

Will probably wait to update for the rev of the Classic  FW which includes the EA function.  The site with dual classics has no internet port available,  so will need to try copying the files and trying the update from a laptop.

Do certainly agree with Paul on the great support from you folks in Engineering,  and Ryan.  It is by far the best anyone could ever hope for.. Thanks!  Vic

[sbudd]

Good morning amigos,

This thread is interesting...

This morning my Classic 150 did not wake up. It retained the daily KWH accumulated value and was in float at 8:30 am. This happened a few times about 2 months ago, but seemed to go away?

The time/date in "misc" are correct.

I reset it by cycling the power breakers and it went back to bulk.

The firmware is the last Feb version....I could update this?
The MNGP rev is 1/10/10 per "misc" page. (?)

Seems to be intermittent....doubt if it is the little battery, but..?

this is one of the best toys I have had...<g>

thanks
steve

[sbudd]

2nd post this morning,

The MNGP rev using the status button show 01/27/2012...so this is likely OK.

little update,
steve

[sbudd]

Greetings

I updated the Classic with the latest firmware and all is well again. The 150 has been waking up on cue the last two days.

Day 1 in the log is yesterday....which is good.

now if we had some sun in the east...

steve

[boB]

It's 0715 and my 250 controller didn't seem to wake up, it's still on float and not bulk MPPT.

Hi Paul.   I am wondering what you mean by it has not woken up yet but is in float ??

i.e.  How are you determining that it is in Float ??   (it would say "Resting" before waking up)
Are you going to the Charge-Voltage-View menu and seeing that the target battery
voltage is what you would expect for Float ? Or are you viewing in the Local App or
something like that ??

The Classic may be in Float from the previous day, or maybe the Clock is not set correctly and
re-bulking at a time other than at midnight ??   Actually, with the most recent firmware,
the Classic should do this reset at time  23:59:59 and 30 seconds.

It is possible that the clock got messed up for whatever reason and I am wondering
if this may have happened.

boB

[plongson]

hey boB
I finally got it straightened out (with lost of help from you guys).

That morning, it went from RESTING to FLOAT and did not stop at absorb. I'm running the 4/12 firmware and it appears:

1.) The correct time was lost when I turned off the power and cycled it back on to update the firmware.

2.) A 1 minute minimum absorb time won't work.

I bumped the min time to 1 hour and corrected the clock and it works fine. I need to check my little coin battery.

Question, What is different about the next release in regards to end amps? I'm now using an EA setting and it seems to work fine. I must be missing something...

I'm just heading out for the day and got to go but I can elaborate later.

THANKS bob!!

[boB]

hey boB


1.) The correct time was lost when I turned off the power and cycled it back on to update the firmware.

2.) A 1 minute minimum absorb time won't work.

Question, What is different about the next release in regards to end amps? I'm now using an EA setting and it seems to work fine. I must be missing something...

THANKS bob!!

Yes, please try and check the coin cell battery voltage.  A new one is around 2.9 to 3.0 volts or so.
The time should be kept alive with it down to 2.0 volts or lower.   Maybe there was some goop or
something insulating the battery ?  One thing I do sometimes is to press the 2 prongs down
with a small screwdriver before putting the battery back in the holder.  With the Classic and
MNGP powered up, that little coin cell battery shouldn't be working at all.  Even then it should
last months if not a year or more but I don't find they last more than about 6 months or so.

1 minute doesn't work, huh ?   Maybe we better make the minimum absorb time 5 minutes.

What I found was that Ending Amps did not work.  You may be seeing the placebo effect ??

Not sure about that one.  I better check closer but I do know the next version will definitely
be correct.

Thank YOU !!
boB

[plongson]

What do you mean by "Placebo Effect"?

Is it SAYING it is switching from Absorb to FLOAT but really doing something else??

Or giving me false comfort that it is working...LOL

[boB]

What do you mean by "Placebo Effect"?

Or giving me false comfort that it is working...LOL

Finally !!  A placebo that really works !!  (LOL)


boB

[Vic]

The Classic CC is a really great product!  It is so sensitive -- empathetic really,  that it intreprets what the user wants and believes,  and does it.

I've seen this with my very eyes,  also seeing it end Asorb via EA.

I believe that I'm going to make a million in the Stock Market next week.  Come on MN Classic,  help me out.
Thanks for the hard work,  boB.   DE  Vic

[plongson]

Jez...you guys are KILLING ME!!! LOL...

Now back to our regularly scheduled program

[boB]

I believe that I'm going to make a million in the Stock Market next week.  Come on MN Classic,  help me out.
Thanks for the hard work,  boB.   DE  Vic

Well, the Classic   ~COULD~  actually display a sequence of random numbers for you to use for the  lottery !

Hmmmmm......

boB