Double datas

Started by SolarMusher, July 10, 2012, 12:02:40 PM

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SolarMusher

Hi,
Since the last update, days in data are in double in my Classic 200.
Day1 09/07/2012 3.9kw
Day2 08/07/2012 0.0kw
Day3 08/07/2012 4.3kw
Day4 07/07/2012 0.0kw
Day5 07/07/2012 5.3kw
Same thing for Float time and others datas.
I'm not drunk though.
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Erik
Off Grid with 4kw PV | 2x Classic 200/WBjr | 2x Outback VFX3648 Epanel | 3x SPD300 + 1x Schneider HEPD80 | Hub + Mate + PSX-240 | Volthium 400Ah/51.2V LFP battery bank + Trimetric | 1500 watts AC water heater | Kubota 11kw GL diesel generator

boB


Hi Erik...

The last time I saw double data like this was with older Classic firmware.

That mainly happened with wind, where the wind would die down for a few hours
and then come on again and go away for another couple of hours.   It could also
happen if the Classic was running and turned off and back on sometimes I think.

The present software only logs data at midnight once per day based on the internal clock.
It's much better.

It would be helpful to know the software build and/or date of the MNGP and the Classic which
can be found by pressing the MNGP STATUS button a few times where it shows the
nominal battery voltage, etc.

Thanks,
boB
K7IQ 🌛  He/She/Me

SolarMusher

Hi boB,
I checked it and both Classic and MNGP are up to date to the last firmware.
I didn't stop the Classic since I rewired the array from 48VDC to 72VDC a week ago.
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Erik
Off Grid with 4kw PV | 2x Classic 200/WBjr | 2x Outback VFX3648 Epanel | 3x SPD300 + 1x Schneider HEPD80 | Hub + Mate + PSX-240 | Volthium 400Ah/51.2V LFP battery bank + Trimetric | 1500 watts AC water heater | Kubota 11kw GL diesel generator

boB

Quote from: SolarMusher on July 10, 2012, 04:20:37 PM
Hi boB,
I checked it and both Classic and MNGP are up to date to the last firmware.
I didn't stop the Classic since I rewired the array from 48VDC to 72VDC a week ago.
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Erik

Well then there must be another reason.

I don't suppose that you have two (2) MNGPs connected to one Classic ??

I will have to think about this one...   Maybe there is some option bit that might affect this.
Not sure.

I know you may not be drunk but you might check once in a while that the clock in the MNGP isn't getting drunk.

OR, maybe the clock inside the Classic itself isn't counting correctly.  It gets synchronized from the MNGP
which has the battery.  We found one Classic where its clock was not running.  I don't think it had anything
to do with double data accumulation but it's worth a look.

To look at the clock in the classic itself, go to the MNGP Clock/Calendar setup screen in MISC menu and
while there, HOLD down the LEFT-ARROW key and TAP the SOFT-RIGHT key.  It should read the clock
inside the Classic.  If it is running, the seconds should be counting up just like in the MNGP.
If not, then maybe we have something.

boB
K7IQ 🌛  He/She/Me

SolarMusher

Hi boB,
Just one MNGP connected. I have checked MNGP and Classic clock and both are correct but I didn't found the MNGP clock in MNGP clock/calendar,
I found it in Misc/Time/...
Is it serious Doctor?
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Erik
Off Grid with 4kw PV | 2x Classic 200/WBjr | 2x Outback VFX3648 Epanel | 3x SPD300 + 1x Schneider HEPD80 | Hub + Mate + PSX-240 | Volthium 400Ah/51.2V LFP battery bank + Trimetric | 1500 watts AC water heater | Kubota 11kw GL diesel generator

boB

Quote from: SolarMusher on July 10, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
Hi boB,
Just one MNGP connected. I have checked MNGP and Classic clock and both are correct but I didn't found the MNGP clock in MNGP clock/calendar,
I found it in Misc/Time/...
Is it serious Doctor?
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Erik


NO, you're right.  I always get that wrong unless I'm looking at the MNGP remote.

Thanks !  We'll have to think of something else then...

Very strange

boB





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SolarMusher

Hi boB,
Data for yesterday are correct this morning. I'll check it every morning, if still wrong, I'll try to reboot it.
It's not very annoying, it works fine.
I'll post you back.
Thanks for your help.
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Erik
Off Grid with 4kw PV | 2x Classic 200/WBjr | 2x Outback VFX3648 Epanel | 3x SPD300 + 1x Schneider HEPD80 | Hub + Mate + PSX-240 | Volthium 400Ah/51.2V LFP battery bank + Trimetric | 1500 watts AC water heater | Kubota 11kw GL diesel generator

SolarMusher

Hi boB,
I didn't have double data yesterday (11/07/2012) so it has worked fine for the past 3 days.
Maybe it was just because I stopped the Classic to rewire my array last week.
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Erik
Off Grid with 4kw PV | 2x Classic 200/WBjr | 2x Outback VFX3648 Epanel | 3x SPD300 + 1x Schneider HEPD80 | Hub + Mate + PSX-240 | Volthium 400Ah/51.2V LFP battery bank + Trimetric | 1500 watts AC water heater | Kubota 11kw GL diesel generator

boB


OK, this is a good sign.  Just keep an eye on it and let us know.

Might be sunspots.    OOooohhh !!   Speaking of sunspots,  we're due for a nice aurora tonight maybe !
I'm going to go check !

boB
K7IQ 🌛  He/She/Me

SolarMusher

Hi boB,
I had checked data everyday since 5/6 days, and it's seem to be fine now. No other double data since July 08, for sure it was because I had stopped the Classic to rewire the array.
Bob, yesterday I've seen one of my panels which have a sort of crack (not really a crack but rather a dark blue treak) inside the panel (not the glass), I have checked Voltage and Amps of this string versus the other one and just noted a little 0.2 amp loss (total string amp is 5A).
Is it the begining of the end for this panel?
How could you have aurora in Arlington? Here in Quebec I hadn't seen one since my last Baie James trip with dogs in 2004.
Bob, could tell me what to do to insert picture (I must be a real dummy), when I click on the picture logo, it asks me nothing...
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Erik
Off Grid with 4kw PV | 2x Classic 200/WBjr | 2x Outback VFX3648 Epanel | 3x SPD300 + 1x Schneider HEPD80 | Hub + Mate + PSX-240 | Volthium 400Ah/51.2V LFP battery bank + Trimetric | 1500 watts AC water heater | Kubota 11kw GL diesel generator

SolarMusher

Hi everyone,
News double datas on my Classic 200. In fact, I've seen these double datas each time I play with the EA setting but when I  keep the same setting for several days, it works fine.
A+,
Erik
Off Grid with 4kw PV | 2x Classic 200/WBjr | 2x Outback VFX3648 Epanel | 3x SPD300 + 1x Schneider HEPD80 | Hub + Mate + PSX-240 | Volthium 400Ah/51.2V LFP battery bank + Trimetric | 1500 watts AC water heater | Kubota 11kw GL diesel generator

Halfcrazy

Quote from: SolarMusher on July 15, 2012, 11:20:55 AM
Bob, could tell me what to do to insert picture (I must be a real dummy), when I click on the picture logo, it asks me nothing...
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Erik
Changing the way wind turbines operate one smoke filled box at a time

boB

Quote from: SolarMusher on August 04, 2012, 07:47:58 AM
Hi everyone,
News double datas on my Classic 200. In fact, I've seen these double datas each time I play with the EA setting but when I  keep the same setting for several days, it works fine.
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Erik


Erik, would love to see any screens you may have to help with this issue.

I am especially interested to see if your double datas are from the same day but because the Classic
is seeing two 12:00 midnight's per day or something like that.

boB
K7IQ 🌛  He/She/Me

SolarMusher

Hi boB,
Yo, I've found it... Thanks Ryan  :-\
Here are the screens! Hope this works...
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Erik
Off Grid with 4kw PV | 2x Classic 200/WBjr | 2x Outback VFX3648 Epanel | 3x SPD300 + 1x Schneider HEPD80 | Hub + Mate + PSX-240 | Volthium 400Ah/51.2V LFP battery bank + Trimetric | 1500 watts AC water heater | Kubota 11kw GL diesel generator

Lya72

Hi Erik,

I was having something like that, when I was pushing too quickly on the MNGP buttons.


Some informations on the LCD were not refreshed.

It was good when i push slowly.


Will have a new look at this, tomorrow in the morning, to confirm.

Yann
1 Classic 200, 4 SILLIA panels 240W in 2 strings of 2, ie 960Watts and 60.8 Volts, 4 MIDAC Batteries 6V 240Ah, ie 24V bank (acid batteries)