Aux 1 waste-not with 120v AC opportunity load; Will this work?

Started by hansenjw, January 20, 2022, 11:14:54 PM

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hansenjw

Yeah, an Arduino could do PWM. I suppose that would give me infinitely variable control of the heat output, but I would need to rectify the AC voltage to DC and probably use some capacitors to prevent the PWM load from affecting my inverter. My Magnum inverter would <probably> be ok with a rapidly switching load, but I don't want to risk it and it would be a lot more complicated.

I did solve another problem in my head though. The issue is that the Classic outputs a 12v signal and an Arduino accepts a 5v signal. I read online that an optocoupler would be a good solution to isolate that circuit and drop the voltage, but I realized a simpler solution would be to switch the classic from 12v to dry-contact mode. That way I just treat the Classic as a simple switch using the 5v from the Arduino and it's completely isolated. I ran a voltage drop calculator because I have a long run of wire that the signal would go through and it came to only a 2.4% drop, so I think it will work well.

So now the entire list of parts I would need are...
- Arduino Nano(?)
- 2x 10a SSR, 5v switching voltage, with heat sinks
- Between 10-500 hours of my time  :D

ClassicCrazy

Quote from: hansenjw on March 11, 2022, 10:29:54 AM
Yeah, an Arduino could do PWM. I suppose that would give me infinitely variable control of the heat output, but I would need to rectify the AC voltage to DC and probably use some capacitors to prevent the PWM load from affecting my inverter. My Magnum inverter would <probably> be ok with a rapidly switching load, but I don't want to risk it and it would be a lot more complicated.

I did solve another problem in my head though. The issue is that the Classic outputs a 12v signal and an Arduino accepts a 5v signal. I read online that an optocoupler would be a good solution to isolate that circuit and drop the voltage, but I realized a simpler solution would be to switch the classic from 12v to dry-contact mode. That way I just treat the Classic as a simple switch using the 5v from the Arduino and it's completely isolated. I ran a voltage drop calculator because I have a long run of wire that the signal would go through and it came to only a 2.4% drop, so I think it will work well.

So now the entire list of parts I would need are...
- Arduino Nano(?)
- 2x 10a SSR, 5v switching voltage, with heat sinks
- Between 10-500 hours of my time  :D

Yeah I forgot about switching AC like that - and I should know because I have been doing it via AUX 2 and it does effect the inverter output  -  it makes my LED lights flicker when it is active. Other things like my computer monitor don't notice it . Probably not good for any of the power loads. Though I keep using it because it works so well at utilizing the extra power automatically.
These are the best deal on Crydom zero crossing point relay . I got one and it works fine. The only difference on this and other model relay is that hex terminal but wasn't a big deal as it took a ring terminal okay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/262852016800
It doesn't have an led to show when it is on - which is a nice feature that is on other SSR that I have.
Lots of cheap ( fake brand names )  SSR's out there on the market , though some of them work okay.
If you don't mind waiting a month or so to get your relays I have bought from this aliexpress company - they have higher voltage DC rated relays too which I have successfully used ( until I went over the 220v dc rating and it quit working !)
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/5105062?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef1802PyIuWx

Larry
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Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

kitestrings

I'd just give a shout out to a company here in the States called VB Controls.  They make IMO high quality, competitively priced relays.  Their support is also good.  After a couple of failures with some of the inexpensive internet "deals", I've moved to these and had no problems.  We do load diversion, but using DC elements, and relays, on Waste-Not.

We also have a couple of the Teledyne relays, and they've worked well.

Did you get something up and working for you?  Best, ~ks