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Mystery battery chemistry, LiFePO4 or LiCoO2?

Started by Kurt_the_German, July 07, 2025, 02:35:42 AM

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Kurt_the_German

Your website describes the new MidNite MNPowerflo5 as a "Lithium Iron Phosphate" server rack battery.
MNPowerflo5
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However, your Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS Report, Report No. TCT240731M004) for the MNPowerflo5, available for download on the website of one of your approved vendors, mentions in Section 3 - Composition, 15 - 40% of Lithium Cobalt Oxide but NO lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4), not even iron itself anywhere on that list.

Why is that?

Given the known issues with LiCoO2 batteries being susceptible to thermal runaway, I believe this to be not a trivial issue.

Also, why don't you show an MSDS or SDS for download in the documents section of the MNPowerflo5?

see below pg 1 and 3 of that MSDS
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ASword

Well, if it helps, this YouTuber's video does a QR code lookup of one of the cells of his prototype MNPowerFlo5:  https://youtu.be/4ju3ucBl1qA?si=rT0vaLpJxGCjC49C at the 13 minute mark.

BlackwaterPark

Quote from: Kurt_the_German on July 07, 2025, 02:35:42 AMYour website describes the new MidNite MNPowerflo5 as a "Lithium Iron Phosphate" server rack battery.
MNPowerflo5
Screenshot from 2025-07-07 00-21-54.png

However, your Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS Report, Report No. TCT240731M004) for the MNPowerflo5, available for download on the website of one of your approved vendors, mentions in Section 3 - Composition, 15 - 40% of Lithium Cobalt Oxide but NO lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4), not even iron itself anywhere on that list.

Why is that?

Given the known issues with LiCoO2 batteries being susceptible to thermal runaway, I believe this to be not a trivial issue.

Also, why don't you show an MSDS or SDS for download in the documents section of the MNPowerflo5?

see below pg 1 and 3 of that MSDS
Screenshot from 2025-07-07 00-01-36.png
Screenshot from 2025-07-07 00-01-44.png


You can't tell by the weight? liCo02 are roughly 40% lighter than Lifepo4...should be a dead give away for you.