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Barcelona ground fault tripping

Started by mahendra, June 15, 2026, 08:28:32 PM

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mahendra

So I have been having this issue for some time where Barcelona ground fault shows up like at least once a month.

It becomes so irritating that a couple of Times  it goes unnoticed and leave my batteries in low SOC .

I can't seem to find where it is coming from.The only thing I know for sure is after investigating from the panels to the battery I am picking up a stray voltage of 16 -20vdc between ground and  pv negative.

Any thoughts on getting this resolved.

List of checks ,results, notes on system:
-No damaged panels
- No damaged pv wires , connectors or junction points
- No nicked/bridged wires from panels to battery
-New ground rod and location
- only suspect is PV wires from array combiner to Barcelona breakers( about 4-5 years old)from combiner box to Barcelona wire box ( pretty long about 60 ft PV wires from combiner box on roof on an insulated pole down to old Genny room that houses Rosie/Barcelona/Power Flo battery pack.

All pv box,breaker and breaker panel I Midnite with Midnite breakers and SPD.

Oh array is two  strings of 8 sunpower 415 watt panels
VoC 45 Vdc per panel
All devices update to the most recent firmware:,Rosie,Barcelona,MNGP2,Powerflos ,Solar assistant.

All thought welcomed



1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

Wizbandit

The new 600V Midnite MPPT charge controllers don't provide a battery NEG to GND bond.  I use a 15A MNEPV breaker and connect between battery NEG and the Ground bar.  See if that helps.

mahendra

I did asks about this will surely have to try that.

Thanks
1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

mahendra

Quote from: Wizbandit on June 16, 2026, 12:25:13 PMThe new 600V Midnite MPPT charge controllers don't provide a battery NEG to GND bond.  I use a 15A MNEPV breaker and connect between battery NEG and the Ground bar.  See if that helps.

Wiz bandit can you send a pic of how you did that? Where did you mount the breaker?
1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

aaapilot

Had the same issue with a Hawks Bay.  It worked fine for a few months, then started randomly throwing ground faults, didn't shut down the system, but the ground fault appeared on the display and the red light remained on until I pressed any button.  Was told early boards had an issue where this would happen. Replaced the ground fault board, no joy, same random faults.  Solution:  Turned OFF ground fault monitoring!  Turn it back on every now and then for an hour or two so if a REAL issue is live, it will let me know, then shut it off. Good luck with your Barcelona.

Dave
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