Any chance to get to 165' on the remote display?

[niel]

i reg,

i can understand stripping the pair so the diameter won't wind up being too big into the slot, but if they are at the right point they would fit as one would be on top of the other. i know keeping them together was the problem. i should also mention that in doing a few cables for myself that it was not necessary to strip any wires as it self tapped upon compression so those doubled up wires should not pose a possible short to the other wire leads even if you had stripped the doubled leads as the others should stay fully insulated into the connector.

[RegGuheert]

Hi Niel,

I'm not sure I'm following you, so let me retrace a little to ensure we are on the same page:

For the jacks where I punched down the wires I did NOT strip the wires, as you say.  In that case I agree there is little concern.

It was inside the clear RJ11 plug end where I felt I needed to strip the wires.  There were two main reasons why I stripped them:  1)  I wanted to make sure that BOTH wires were carrying current, since that is the main objective here and 2)  So that both of them would fit into the same rounded slot.

If we are both talking about pushing the wires into a clear RJ11 plug, I'm interested to learn how you can get two wires to slide into the same position.  It sounds like you are managing to get them on top of each other as you slide the wires into the plug, but I'm not sure I could ever get them to go in that way!

In the end, you still end up with the problem of the strain relief portion of the RJ11 plug being too small to accept the sheathing from the Cat5e cable.  I suppose it may be possible to trim it just enough with a knife to make it fit, but, again, that would be a challenge.

In any case, please explain further, because I would love to learn more about what can be done with these things!

Thanks!

Reg

[niel]

reg,
gee, i thought you said you did get both into 1 slot when you stripped them and twisted them together or did i interpret that wrong? as to strain relief, the wires into the slots hold it mostly imho. i guess you could reinforce the back portion with say a few plastic strips and the place some heat shrink tubing over it all. could be tricky getting that just right though. even if we crossed wires somewhere (pun intended) at least you have it working at that distance. if you think the end will be abused by lots of plugging in and out then the small double outlet will work so that only the smaller length will take the abuse.

[RegGuheert]

reg,
gee, i thought you said you did get both into 1 slot when you stripped them and twisted them together or did i interpret that wrong?

I did, but not with the insulation on them!

as to strain relief, the wires into the slots hold it mostly imho. i guess you could reinforce the back portion with say a few plastic strips and the place some heat shrink tubing over it all. could be tricky getting that just right though. even if we crossed wires somewhere (pun intended) at least you have it working at that distance. if you think the end will be abused by lots of plugging in and out then the small double outlet will work so that only the smaller length will take the abuse.

I HOPE there is not a lot of further plugging and unplugging inside the Classic!  It would be nice to wrap this up someday! 

[RegGuheert]

Hey, if it works you might sell another display!

At this point it looks as if the owner WILL be interested in purchasing another display.  While I see that you list a display for sale, it does not show any sort of mounting structure for it.  Perhaps both the dummy panel and the MNGP come with some sort of mounting kit?  If not, will you be offering one for sale soon?

Finally, I have some concerns about lightning protection for the RS-232 wire going up to the house.  I have some professional experience with this issue in my past and know that serial ports can be destroyed by currents induced on these wires by nearby lightning strikes.  So I am wondering if there is some sort of surge suppression built in to the Classic controller board and/or the MNGP.  If not, is there a standard product of some sorts that can be plugged inline with these things to protect them, given that they use a custom pinout?  Any thoughts or experience in this area would be appreciated!

TIA!

Reg

[Halfcrazy]

The remote display is the same as the one in the Classic it is designed to be flush mounted with 4 screws one in each corner. I will let boB answer the RS-232 questions.

[RegGuheert]

So it sounds like the front cover slides off and then you can screw it to the wall.  Great!

Thanks!

Reg

[boB]

So it sounds like the front cover slides off and then you can screw it to the wall.  Great!

Thanks!

Reg

Sounds like we need an FAQ and a drawing to go with it.

You do have to make a hole for the RJ11 jack to stick through though, I would think.

boB

[Bob D]

I know this is very old but I want install a second MNGP about 400 feet from the Classic.
The links to the wiring diagrams are broken, is it possible to obtain the info needed to add a remote power supply?
Merry Christmas
Thanks