newbie can't direct connect to Classic

Started by leeelson, June 06, 2014, 03:40:02 PM

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leeelson

Sorry if this is covered elsewhere but I can't find much documentation on the local app....

I have a Classic 150 with the latest firmware and I'm trying to connect using a Windows 8.1 machine directly, no router. Everything is default (static IP address). First the app says "connecting" then "device not available".

Any suggestions?

Resthome

Quote from: leeelson on June 06, 2014, 03:40:02 PM
Sorry if this is covered elsewhere but I can't find much documentation on the local app....

I have a Classic 150 with the latest firmware and I'm trying to connect using a Windows 8.1 machine directly, no router. Everything is default (static IP address). First the app says "connecting" then "device not available".

Any suggestions?

http://www.midnitesolar.com/video/videoPlay.php?video_ID=39&videoCat_ID=3

John

10 x Kyocera KC140, Classic 150 w/WBJr, Link10 Battery Monitor, 850 AH @ 12v Solar One 2v cells, Xantrex PROwatt SW2000
Off Grid on Houseboat Lake Don Pedro, CA

TomW

First.

You need to set up the proper network address on the Classic. By default it is DHCP and without a router it will not get an IP. Menu>>Net from the MNGP unless it is a Lite.

Set it for "Static" and then give it an address in the same network as your Win 8 computer has.

That should fix it up. Otherwise the Classic will not have an address and will be invisible.

"connecting" in the LA is what it always says while looking for Classics on a network.

Hope that helps

Tom
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leeelson

Quote from: Resthome on June 06, 2014, 03:48:05 PM
Quote from: leeelson on June 06, 2014, 03:40:02 PM
Sorry if this is covered elsewhere but I can't find much documentation on the local app....

I have a Classic 150 with the latest firmware and I'm trying to connect using a Windows 8.1 machine directly, no router. Everything is default (static IP address). First the app says "connecting" then "device not available".

Any suggestions?

http://www.midnitesolar.com/video/videoPlay.php?video_ID=39&videoCat_ID=3

Thanks. I'd seen that but forgot about it. For anyone following this thread, I was not able to connect using the same static IP address on both the classic and the local network. I ended up using the exact ones in the video. YMMV.

RossW

Quote from: leeelson on June 06, 2014, 04:42:20 PM
I was not able to connect using the same static IP address on both the classic and the local network.

If you set two (or more) devices to have the SAME IP address, it certainly won't work.
They need to be unique. Further, they need to be in the same subnet (unless you have a router).
In *GENERAL* terms (and there are exceptions), but generally that means the first 3 groups of numbers must be identical, and the last group of numbers must be different.

Eg,  192.168.1.X (every device must be 192.168.1, but the X must be unique on each machine)
(All number groups will be in the range of 0-255, but X will never be either 0 or 255 as they are reserved addresses for specific purposes within the subnet)

Hope this isn't just more confusing!
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inetdog

There is nothing special about the address 0 in the final octet, other than that it is often reserved early in network startup by the gateway router for a particular subnet. If you are doing completely manual addressing, 0 is OK to use.
255 does have a special meaning and should not be used, as you say.