Help with local app for ios

[atop8918]

Ok, just heard back from Mike.

The iOS version of the app is still in Alpha and is not really ready for general public consumption. It's up in the app store for convenience for the Alpha testers but should not be relied upon for general use. So basically, use at your own risk, but it is not finished nor even technically functional yet.

That being said, please fell free to post problems like this as it will help us(Mike) debug. Just please have a realistic expectation that there is one guy working on the project and he also has about 15 other things to do as well!!! Par for the course around startups I'm afraid!

[Resthome]

Andrew,

I have several problems, the router was originally set up to use a DSL modem on its in port and the win XP machine and the others on the other ports. Wi-fi was not used.  I have done a hardware reset on the modem but I still have the same issues. I cannot access the modem for setup because the only way in is through the wi-fi which uses the same address as the router. , 192.168.1.1  I will go rent time an a PC and try to setup the router to an address that will work.  The bigger issue is something is awry in local app.  It does not scale for retina display. I cannot read the EULA or even scroll down due to its tiny size, approx 1 inch by 2 inch. Closing the window does not work. I cannot accept terms of use without iPad crashing. At that point I need to do a hard reset, delete the app and reinstall from App Store at apple. Then same issue.

td

TD,   You should be able to access the DSL Modem and the router by disconnecting each. Since you don't have a PC the Wi-Fi would have to be set up correctly on the router. Turn the DSL modem off and disconnect it from the router. Do a factory reset on the Router. Do you see the SID for the router in the iPad Wi-Fi setup? Does the iPad connect to this Router Wi-Fi as a first step? In Safari or any other iOS browser you have loaded on the iPad enter the URL I gave you above do you get the router logon screen.

I'm not at the boat until next Wednesday to try this app. But I'm not seeing the app crash yet. Of course I can not connect to a Classic. My guess is this app is not ready for prime time.

[tecnodave]

RH,

I am not using DSL at this time, my only internet access is through a Verizon wi-fi hot spot. It is 700 MHz 4Glte, output is wi-fi only, the USB connector is for power only.

The router was bought for my former DSL setup using service through AT&T with an AT&T supplied DSL modem

I think that this router can only accept input through the in port (DSL port). not through wi-fi.  I am attempting to use the router using data in through wi-fi and Classic connected to port 1 , that is where my lack of knowledge comes from, knowing just what the hardware is capable of. I may have to buy a different kind of router or wi-fi access point . Netgear is not responsive as this is not this weeks current production


I am still attempting this

Verizon wi-fi port      192.168.1.1

iPad.                        192.168.1.2.  (assume this was assigned by wi-fi hotspot)

Classic.                      192.168.1.250.  Mode DHCP      ,  Set by me

Still no connect,    Next step configuration of router with win PC

I am frustrated but not at give up.


Andrew did chime in that local app iOS is still beta and that it is buggy.

td

Oh and I am shopping for a win7 notebook, prefer Asus or something of that quality.

[zoneblue]

TD, you have to get the networking right first. If you are using a 3g gateway device of some sort that outputs ethernet or wifi, but has no internal hub or switch, then you will need to provide one. The easiest way to do this is a 5 port switch about 20 bucks or so anywhere. Plus the 3g gateway into it, plug the classic into it, and the wifi devices can connect over the air. If you have a wireless router sitting around, then this may be repurposed as a switch, by disabling the WAN side, and just using it as a switch slash wifi access point. Be careful not having two access points, you dont want that.

If your gateway has no ethernet,  then you need an accesspoint that is in client mode, ie it can only accepyt a single connection and its dhcp server is off (you only want one dhcp server on any given subnet), and that can turn the wifi into a wired network, so your wifi router then can bridge to the gateway device. This is kinda into advanced networking, and you may need a youngser! Else hopefully your wifi router has a decent manual. Those routers can be set to several different modes, of which the default isnt the one you want.

Sorry i brushed you off earlier, didnt realise your setup was so tricky. Most folk have a wired LAN already and its just a matter of getting the ips right.

[tecnodave]

ZB,

The router that I have apparently cannot be accessed from the wi-fi side. I went to a computer store and had it reset and reprogrammed to different IP address and I can connect to it with Ethernet but not wi-fi.   I have come to the conclusion that the iPad is capable of many things but advanced use is not one of them. To that end I just bought a Toshiba laptop which does have USB and Ethernet and wi-fi and windoze 7.  Now  I can update my Classic and do other things that I have had to depend on others to do. Now if I can find local panel for windows, it's not on Midnites website.

td

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ZB,

The router that I have apparently cannot be accessed from the wi-fi side. I went to a computer store and had it reset and reprogrammed to different IP address and I can connect to it with Ethernet but not wi-fi.   I have come to the conclusion that the iPad is capable of many things but advanced use is not one of them. To that end I just bought a Toshiba laptop which does have USB and Ethernet and wi-fi and windoze 7.  Now  I can update my Classic and do other things that I have had to depend on others to do. Now if I can find local panel for windows, it's not on Midnites website.

td

Make sure you install Abobe AIR first.

https://www.mymidnite.com/drupal-7.23/?q=node/7

Good luck.  To make matters a little easier, turn off the wire hot spot and get the local network working with your router. Configure the router with the PC. You could skip the wireless for now and just plug the Classic and laptop into the router ports 1-4. Setup the Classic for DHCP. If you reset that router to factory defaults it should come up as a DHCP server.

[tecnodave]

i am still stumbling with it. i do not have local app for the windows machine ad cant find it.  i am trying to update the firmware in the classic but the instructions as how to do that have been taken down. computer now dying outta battery, 

td

[tecnodave]

RH.

When I go to the link you posted and try to download local app I get the message

"Safari cannot download this file"

And when I try To download Adobe Air I get a message :

"This device does not support Adobe Air"

Do tell!    An app written with Adobe Air for a device which does not support Adobe Air!!

That has gotta be the winner!

td

[zoneblue]

Not really you day mate. Thems the breaks.

Trust me when i say that once you start with networking you need a LAN. You cant go plugging things in an out just to get data off the classic, hence a permanent connection into your LAN is best.

If your router doesnt support client/bridge mode (are you sure?) then go out buy the cheapest name brand wifi router, one without dsl will be best.  Something like this:
http://www.tp-link.com/lk/products/details/?categoryid=245&model=TL-WA5110G
will set you back about 40 bucks. That gives a bunch of ethernet ports and a wifi client/bridge.

Then you can use wifi from any device to access the classic. Then you check out the iOS local app, or whatever. The whole network subnet will transparently appear as though everything is connected. Its a beautiful thing...

[dgd]

RH.

When I go to the link you posted and try to download local app I get the message

"Safari cannot download this file"

And when I try To download Adobe Air I get a message :

"This device does not support Adobe Air"

Do tell!    An app written with Adobe Air for a device which does not support Adobe Air!!

That has gotta be the winner!

td

You have to have your Ipad connected to the internet then go to App store (one of the ipad touch  buttons) and search for Midnite. It will find a couple of things and one of them is Midnite Solar Local App.  You then download this.
You do not need to download or be concerned about Abobe Air.
When download completed you will have a new touch button for Local App.
It will automatically look at your LAN for Classics and any found will display the App summary one line to show its found.
When you select one to display the dashboard displays. Its pretty minimal, on my Ipad mini I just got the meters a bit squeezed but working, no data box below. You can see its a work in progress so don't expect too much.

dgd

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RH.

When I go to the link you posted and try to download local app I get the message

"Safari cannot download this file"

And when I try To download Adobe Air I get a message :

"This device does not support Adobe Air"

Do tell!    An app written with Adobe Air for a device which does not support Adobe Air!!

That has gotta be the winner!

td

TD, you have me totally confused. Are you using Safari on the PC ?  You said you got a new PC so I assumed you where trying to install the LA on the PC. But to be total honest I'm not sure what you are trying to do now. If you trying to install on the PC do yourself a favor and get Chrome if you don't want to use IE. The only issue I have had with downloading the LA from that link is that sometime with IE it changes the file extension to .exe or .zip it should be .air just rename it if that happens. Use the second link under the square box to download AIR and the LA. The DOWNLOAD tries to do the install IIRC.



If AIR will not install go to ADOBE and down load the latest AIR from there.

Have no idea why MN has removed these instructions. I can not post it here do to the file size limit of the forums. If you want to PM me your email address I can try to send it to you.

[tecnodave]

Dgd,

I did go to iTunes Store and downloaded local app for iOS.
  There are two problems.

  1) my iPad does not see the router at all,  an Toshiba laptop that I just bought does not see the router on wireless but does see it connected to  Ethernet port.

   2) when I launch local control app on the iPad the screen is in portrait and the iPad in in landscape only on the greeting screen. (Mock up of dashboard). Then it switches to landscape and it seems normal , but upside down, but not always.   I then enter the Classic address and local app flashes "connecting" for about 3 minutes then iPad locks up. Message box pops up about 1" by 2" with characters so small that I cannot see them. About .005 inches high.  Not knowing what to do I try to close app and iPad freezes.

I think it ( iPad n local app) are searching for Classic but router is not responding resulting in timeout, fail to disconnect and lock up

I do know and have experienced issues with iPad's "Retina Display" . iPad 1&2 do not have this iPad 3, 4 and 5 do have retina display . This quadruples total pixel count and some apps will not scale properly. This leaves you with tiny unreadable message boxes.   Retina display is 2048 by 1536 which is ultra high resolution.  I have seen this on four of my apps but only after upgrading iOS to this months version.  The app developers seem to recognize this issue as when apple releases latest and greatest, app developers are soon listing upgrades.


In any case the software is not ready yet for iPad.

I bought the windows laptop so I could update the firmware on Classic and kid but someone has taken down the firmware upgrade instructions and the com8 driver is not to be found.  Stuck in a rut again, my Tracer has given up, it charges batteries to 1.220 sg and no more so several times a day I have to reconnect my Classic to the several systems that I have here. My kid is still back at midnite for troubleshooting and firmware upgrade. My C-40 gets pressed into duty but a PWM controller on 70 volt strings is not very efficient.

It's pretty obvious that I will need another charge controller but at this point I do not know what to get. I need reliability more than anything but have not gotten that.

td

[tecnodave]

RH,

I did misread your post, I think that you pointed me to the windows version and I was thinking iPad.
It does seem that the iPad version does have some problems and I cannot upgrade my firmware on Classic and kid so I bought the windows laptop to do that as well as run local app.  I got the firmware upgrade but the instructions and com8 driver are gone. Then the lad top died and I have no way to charge it right now. It needs 19.2 volts and I have not built a buck converter for it as yet. My batteries are too flat with 3 controllers down and one limping to run inverter just to charge the laptop so all must wait for next generator run.

My email address is no secret.      tecnodave@yahoo.com.   If you have those instructions that will be a big help!

[zoneblue]

  There are two problems.
  1) my iPad does not see the router at all,  an Toshiba laptop that I just bought does not see the router on wireless but does see it connected to  Ethernet port.

Unless the router is setup correctly, it wont. See above.

   2) when I launch local control app on the iPad the screen is in portrait and the iPad in in landscape only on the greeting screen.
...
I think it ( iPad n local app) are searching for Classic but router is not responding resulting in timeout, fail to disconnect and lock up

That all sounds like the last of your worrys.

I bought the windows laptop so I could update the firmware on Classic and kid but someone has taken down the firmware upgrade instructions and the com8 driver is not to be found.

Looks like theyve had a documenation rearrange. Here they are:
http://www.midnitesolar.com/firmwareReport.php?firmware_ID=3&firmwareProduct_ID=1&act=edit

It's pretty obvious that I will need another charge controller but at this point I do not know what to get. I need reliability more than anything but have not gotten that.

Seems like a hasty assessment there TD. Once youve got that network sorted out and the firmware installer going the sun will come out again...

Classic here rock steady, no reboots since 1849. Data's fair pouring out of the thing.

[Resthome]

Looks like zoneblue has located the instructions for you. Let us know when you have that laptop charged.