All LED blinking & Clone a Classic?

Started by binkino, March 04, 2016, 11:39:44 AM

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binkino

yes, I have rtfm :)
it tells me, communication error between the MNGP and the Classic.

As I wrote in the other topic, I found ma classic some weeks ago with all LEDs blinking and all fans running.
After powercycling all was fine again.
Some days later, I found my classic again blinking LEDs. Powercycle and all fine.
Now I had to do in the basement and looked more times to the classic.
Again, all LEDs blinking.
So manual tells me, communication problem and check that cable.
So i did. Cable is okay, all contacts I can meassure from one end to the other.
The basement is dry, so also no oxidation visible.
After unplug the cable and plug it back in, the MNGP starts and looks all okay.
Later it was blinking again. I changed the plugs and a longer time all looks okay, then it is blinking again.

I don't know is it a random thing now - but I did not see the Classic blinking like now before I did the update.
But the Classic works ...
So looks like it is only a problem mith the MNGP
As I config it all with the app, the MNGP is not really necessary for the Classic, or?
It reboots every midnight and works - so I think it  is not a problem?

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Is it possible to "clone" a classic? So copy all stored datas to a 2nd Classic?
I will get thankfully a non-lite and want this to be my main charger for the 48V System.
The Classic Lite will then have a smaller job with my 24V battery bank, playing with this.
Is also possible to reset the Lite to zero then?

Chargers:  Classic Lite 200 + Classic 200
Inverter: Easun ISolar-SMX-II-5.6KW
PV modules: 12 x 240 Wp + 12 x 255 Wp = 5.940 Wp
Batteries: 2 x 10 kWh + 5 kWh LFP = 25 kWh
My LCARS PV site: http://a68k.de/Solar/Monitor_LC2.php
PV-Output: http://pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=38617 (not longer uptodate)

ClassicCrazy

Do you have auto reset turned on ? If you turn that on it will automatically reset every night at midnight .

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

Westbranch

Have you tried to reinstall the FW? both classic and MNGP?

hth
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CDN-VT

#3
After what the other gents posted ^^^ there .
Make sure all your settings are recorded on paper & then on power up , reboot the machine (holding both left & right arrows down while giving the midnite battery power , then PV power) The unit will be dead on power up & then two arrows & battery power will start at the basic beginning. That is why you well need all your  settings recorded. Works wonders !

VT

All external powers , e-net also
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

ClassicCrazy

Actually the best way to back up the Classic is to download  the setpoints and other parameters  with the Local Status App and then just upload them back after an update or VMM.  Just takes seconds and beats scrolling through all the menus on MNGP and wondering if you missed any.

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

binkino

My apologies, I was in error writing "MNGP" - I have the Lite and it is the MNLP not the MNGP ...

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on March 04, 2016, 12:54:00 PM
Do you have auto reset turned on ? If you turn that on it will automatically reset every night at midnight .
Larry
"It reboots every midnight and works - so I think it  is not a problem?"
yes  :)

Quote from: Westbranch on March 04, 2016, 01:22:04 PM
Have you tried to reinstall the FW? both classic and MNGP?

hth

I can try reinstall the update again

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on March 05, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
Actually the best way to back up the Classic is to download  the setpoints and other parameters  with the Local Status App and then just upload them back after an update or VMM.  Just takes seconds and beats scrolling through all the menus on MNGP and wondering if you missed any.

Larry

How to export and import?
I was looking for this longer ago, also to complete missing days manually and import then the corrected datas
In the [Offline] Tab I only have the [Export] button..
Chargers:  Classic Lite 200 + Classic 200
Inverter: Easun ISolar-SMX-II-5.6KW
PV modules: 12 x 240 Wp + 12 x 255 Wp = 5.940 Wp
Batteries: 2 x 10 kWh + 5 kWh LFP = 25 kWh
My LCARS PV site: http://a68k.de/Solar/Monitor_LC2.php
PV-Output: http://pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=38617 (not longer uptodate)

kitestrings

QuoteActually the best way to back up the Classic is to download  the setpoints and other parameters  with the Local Status App

Larry, can you explain how this is done?  I see an "export registers" under settings, is that it?

I work with some meters at work that allow you to save a "device report".  It similarly saves all the programming, and I'd wondered if you could do this with the Classics.  I had done screenshots of everything when I first set up things, but that is time consuming.

Thanks for any advice, ~ks

ClassicCrazy

#7
Quote from: kitestrings on March 05, 2016, 08:55:10 AM
QuoteActually the best way to back up the Classic is to download  the setpoints and other parameters  with the Local Status App

Larry, can you explain how this is done?  I see an "export registers" under settings, is that it?

I work with some meters at work that allow you to save a "device report".  It similarly saves all the programming, and I'd wondered if you could do this with the Classics.  I had done screenshots of everything when I first set up things, but that is time consuming.

Thanks for any advice, ~ks

Yes - Open Local Status App = go to Config screen - make sure you have your Unlock Code in there . Export Registers to your computer . I make a folder to keep them in and give each import file a date on the name so I never get mixed up which is the latest one. Do the reverse to Import them back into the Classic.  It restores everything that you had it set up for before .

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

binkino

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on March 05, 2016, 01:24:13 PM...
Do the reverse to Import them back into the Classic.  It restores everything that you had it set up for before .

Larry

And where to find the "Import" button / function ?
Chargers:  Classic Lite 200 + Classic 200
Inverter: Easun ISolar-SMX-II-5.6KW
PV modules: 12 x 240 Wp + 12 x 255 Wp = 5.940 Wp
Batteries: 2 x 10 kWh + 5 kWh LFP = 25 kWh
My LCARS PV site: http://a68k.de/Solar/Monitor_LC2.php
PV-Output: http://pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=38617 (not longer uptodate)

ClassicCrazy

Quote from: binkino on March 05, 2016, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: ClassicCrazy on March 05, 2016, 01:24:13 PM...
Do the reverse to Import them back into the Classic.  It restores everything that you had it set up for before .

Larry

And where to find the "Import" button / function ?

Those buttons are on the bottom of the Config screen on the Local Status App - at least they are on the computer version of it .

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

binkino

#10
screenshots (just a quick view via teamviewer at home)


ah now I got it.

please more detailled infos to find it. Thanks.
Chargers:  Classic Lite 200 + Classic 200
Inverter: Easun ISolar-SMX-II-5.6KW
PV modules: 12 x 240 Wp + 12 x 255 Wp = 5.940 Wp
Batteries: 2 x 10 kWh + 5 kWh LFP = 25 kWh
My LCARS PV site: http://a68k.de/Solar/Monitor_LC2.php
PV-Output: http://pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=38617 (not longer uptodate)

australsolarier

wow!!!
why don't they call it "export settings" and "import settings"

then everybody will know what those "export registers" mean.
never in my wildest dreams would i have figured out what those registers were.

anyway thanks for that advice and i will try it out later.

binkino

Quote from: australsolarier on March 05, 2016, 06:22:23 PM
wow!!!
why don't they call it "export settings" and "import settings"

then everybody will know what those "export registers" mean.
never in my wildest dreams would i have figured out what those registers were.

anyway thanks for that advice and i will try it out later.

I am not alone with this problem, I see ;)
many things in this app could be more clear for full-stupids like us.
You can guess how many questions I had, till this all was allmost clear. And we find again something...
But i have already said my words about this issue.
Chargers:  Classic Lite 200 + Classic 200
Inverter: Easun ISolar-SMX-II-5.6KW
PV modules: 12 x 240 Wp + 12 x 255 Wp = 5.940 Wp
Batteries: 2 x 10 kWh + 5 kWh LFP = 25 kWh
My LCARS PV site: http://a68k.de/Solar/Monitor_LC2.php
PV-Output: http://pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=38617 (not longer uptodate)

australsolarier

midnite classic term "rebulk volts" is fairly self evident. reading it you know pretty close to what it refers.

selectronic calls the same feature "initial return". when first reading it i got a blank. return to what???

selectronic has a "battery alarm setting". you would think it is an alarm, like a smoke alarm, hooting or something.  not at all. it turns off an ac coupled grid feed inverter.   ...........

i suppose life is exciting. and thanks heaven for those forums.

binkino

haha, unbelievable ... but true ..

good luck we have no chinenglish manuals :D
Chargers:  Classic Lite 200 + Classic 200
Inverter: Easun ISolar-SMX-II-5.6KW
PV modules: 12 x 240 Wp + 12 x 255 Wp = 5.940 Wp
Batteries: 2 x 10 kWh + 5 kWh LFP = 25 kWh
My LCARS PV site: http://a68k.de/Solar/Monitor_LC2.php
PV-Output: http://pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=38617 (not longer uptodate)