Who has upgraded to LED Fluorescent light tubes . I have 4 buildings to do

[niel]

so how are they working out for you cdn vt?

[CDN-VT]

Neil , Im not there yet ,
Ranch has me up @5am & it's 2230 & its lights out .
My next trip down is sept to pick up USA stuff .
Nite all , & Be Safe

VT

[CDN-VT]

I have 100 units ordered and 48 of another in full feed of 230Vac 60~  and each tube uses 18.7 w or 21.6 w in full spectrum.

My next items I need is to find the center mount for 8 foot unit to mount 4 tombstone's in the center of the 8 footers .
These tubes make you remove the ballast & that cut's 5 watt per lamp / tube ..
got the adapters for the T12 8' fixtures & will convert to 4x4 or 2x4' style .
I read that the 8' ones will over time sag & fall out if not clipped up , so ?? decide to go all 4'

VT

@Neil
https://www.eledlights.com/leds-by-application/rebate-eligible-lights/t8-uhl-4ft-led-light-dlc.html#.V-CCvo6wnTR

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018I18K9A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AWAF1NHJQCE18

[niel]

hi cdn-vt. that's quite a number of them and to be converted over to 4ft from 8ft is some work. i think in retrospect my 4ft led tubes are probably drawing the 18w x 2 plus the 5w for the ballast. it's still better than the fluorescent draw with ballast and i don't have to replace the darn things every year or 2.

i hadn't heard of that sag problem. maybe a physical hanger could've relieved the stress in the middle?

as to the tombstones, i saw some at lowes for $2.05 u.s. Item # 89198 Model # 2510W-BOX
that will be expensive with that many lights to convert maybe you should find a big electrical outlet that can get you a quantity.

let us know how the progress is going and of course if it works in the end.

[CDN-VT]

The salesman I spoke to knew about having the 8 footers sag in hot areas .
I decide to go straight 4 footers and the ballast to be removed to save power & on some areas I probably won't need that much light , so if you see the metal fixture adapters  , you can have a 4x4 setup in the 8 footers or only two x4'.
Wood shop , metal shop & Hanger . I'll use a genie lift for a few days im thinking ,& i'll work live .




VT

[CDN-VT]

hi cdn-vt. that's quite a number of them and to be converted over to 4ft from 8ft is some work.
let us know how the progress is going and of course if it works in the end.

@Neil
The Kitchen lamp box I did but the 4 X 4 @ 6500k & 22 watts each are incredible over the full spectrum 32W t-8s ..
So i kinda knew that would be overboard ,I had purchased chain pull switches so I could limit the amount of tubes on  1 ,2,3 or all four & thats when the wife is in processing mode .

As for the shops /hangers I will do similar of letting the pull chain switch let me have a choice of the amount or if I need all lit.

Trying to take a picture is useless ,But those 8 foot adapter plates to the 4 footers are GREAT .
From a 20.8 Amp down to a 9.amp draw & way brighter light.
After a few hours of one quad set running I had to go back and add in a pull chain switch to knock out two bulbs ,for the area is used sometimes , those LED tubes were not even warm , pulling ballasts that I just cut the hot wire & cap , everything is hot & the ballast I let cool .

JFI

VT
Added pix & in the MECH room , don't hit squat

[niel]

sounds great and the pull strings will give you an added measure of control over the lighting needed. lots of work, but it'll save you down the road just in replacing the old fluorescents that would burn out prematurely or flicker. the lower electrical consumption is also great. i can tell from the pics that the tubes have a high operating temp. my tubes are more into the yellow range, but that's ok by me. i guess that's typical for the cheaper straight up replacements. even cariboocoot replaced some of his with the leds and had the same observation i had on operating temp. yes, i still keep in contact with him.

do you have a pic or link to the adapter plates that you got?

[CDN-VT]

Yes I do Sir & i'll post the stuff I bought to do the conversion here & PM you it also Plus my E-mail for the unicorn

We must all help & work together , since were on a upward battle to stay ahead.
VT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retrofit-Kit-8-2-Bulb-T12-Light-Strip-8-T8-4-Lamp-Fluorescent-Fixture-/182221579148?hash=item2a6d40a38c

Good kit to use. I updated 30 8' units of all ages .

Im 3/4 the way done !! after all of that I need to CLEAN , DIRT from being dark .

[niel]

nice kits. about how long to convert one 8 footer? of course i ask only out of curiosity as i've no 8 footers to worry about. after my bathroom fixture fails i'll put in more leds. it's currently got t-12s in it. i may even still have a few tubes left so it may be awhile. the fixture i bought for my kitchen, as small as it is and at <20w, may be overkill for it. even the fact the fixture is physically smaller means i'll have to paint where i didn't have to before. the price for progress i guess. i hope there's not too much paint built up there or i may need to taper it with some spackling.

you called me sir? i'm not used to respect and you humble me. you don't have to call me sir.

[CDN-VT]

No Worries
Sir is From how I have read your posts .
& Again no worries .

Well conversion was all done hot & on  while I was on a Genie , Ballasts you need a leather welding glove to hold the heat of the ballast & im a VT as in Avatar so heat is in my work .
Single unit was 30 min , but gangs or row lighting, you need to know the feed source power  input area . Working hot is ok , but the knowing of dead all along plus as Im also  adding in chain pull switches etc.

Normal structure was all 4'X4 tubes on above benches & then where machines  moored or areas of setup / jigs (flat & special area , only used for a major job etc) them fixtures could be on only 1/2 of the tubes so 1/2 the light & power usage .
When needed & that area had a Machine there , you could add the other 2 lamps on the 8 footer so it was 4X4' tubes plus the other string that has been off since that area is only for rigging setup of flight controls  .

Hope the coot responds . WB is also in his AO

VT

[niel]

so are you all done with the conversions yet or do you have more to go? as i said you put allot of work into doing this, but the reward is great.

call me dumb, but what did you mean here, "WB is also in his AO"? coot will not come on here to post as he said he doesn't have any midnite products and as such would feel out of place. i think he's a bit burned out and miffed from naws anyway as i can relate to a degree. not the folks here at midnite's fault in any way. btw, david l. of naws did apologize to me for how i was treated by both the naws forum in general and even by him, 6 months after i had quit. coot never got an apology and i was the only one to back him up for the wrongs done to him. this is water over the dam, but shows where he stands for posting on forums to help people ever again. he's up to his ears with other issues anyway as am i, but i still pop in here as the people at midnite are good people that i came to know through the forum on naws, but i've never met any of them.

i didn't mean to dump all of this out here to this degree, but i want you to understand why myself and coot aren't gung ho like we used to be. naws is suffering for the forum now that actually elevated them in the first place. irony.

[CDN-VT]

so are you all done with the conversions yet or do you have more to go? as i said you put allot of work into doing this, but the reward is great.

call me dumb, but what did you mean here, "WB is also in his AO"? coot will not come on here to post as he said he doesn't have any midnite products and as such would feel out of place. i think he's a bit burned out and miffed from naws anyway as i can relate to a degree. not the folks here at midnite's fault in any way. btw, david l. of naws did apologize to me for how i was treated by both the naws forum in general and even by him, 6 months after i had quit. coot never got an apology and i was the only one to back him up for the wrongs done to him. this is water over the dam, but shows where he stands for posting on forums to help people ever again. he's up to his ears with other issues anyway as am i, but i still pop in here as the people at midnite are good people that i came to know through the forum on naws, but i've never met any of them.

i didn't mean to dump all of this out here to this degree, but i want you to understand why myself and coot aren't gung ho like we used to be. naws is suffering for the forum now that actually elevated them in the first place. irony.

West Branch is also in the interior of British Columbia  WB = West Branch    AO = Area of Operations .

Midnite folks are just fine & I spoke to one gent who said one man on his forum was so helpful , he was hired (& he's still here & has helped me also) .

Neil , Ya know Coots addy ? lets send him a MNBCM & then there is no reason not to say Hi.
He did spend alot of time helping , & i did warn of the Forum Software upgrde & total loss , As they had killed ours 6 months earlier ( Major Company who owns our forum , locked & you must have licence with company , PSW changed every 89 days, thru Novell banking ) so it's not a NAWS but they were dead in one week . Production effected & then them & others went after the Forum software company (Petro dollars , ya don't have a chance ) ..


OK back to the enlightened world !!! 

Almost done all in the first buildings . I did take the new units apart & took a few pix to post a review as they asked.
I started typing , but then the BS of the java or something brought up a screen on there web page that wipe my type (30 mins +) hunt & peck typist , Sorry , not tying it again for you. Auto save yur jave & IM helping WHO ? 4 the Seller !!

Same as here post type first  & then PIX cause its also a 1972 software .

Hence : « Last Edit: Today at 09:40:52 PM by CDN-VT »

[niel]

right as wb is up at williams lake. i liked his avatar being a pic of the mountains up there. i don't know coot's address, but i believe he's south of wb. the meter would be a nice gesture, but i don't think that would get him on the forum or any forum for that matter. i wasn't really around for the software change they currently have at naws and was at odds with naws and some members before the major screwup with the vbulletin update. that was only the icing flowers on the cake, but when they banned coot for no reason i stopped with naws and that was the icing on the cake. many thought it was because we were in trouble due to olson, but that wasn't the case. btw, i'm not surprised that your warning to naws fell on deaf ears. even if you would've emailed naws directly it would've been to no avail.

not sure, but are you referring to ryan as they hired him and he was on naws going way back?

yes, java can get stinky sometimes.

[niel]

btw cdn_vt, is he not calling himself westbranch and i see he is posting here on this forum?

[Westbranch]

Niel,  yes it is me, same on both forums... not Coot, Coot lives about 60 miles South of here...  I have his old address (e-mail) if you want to try it...