Classic 1 resting after update

Started by BobWhite, August 27, 2016, 08:43:12 AM

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BobWhite

Hi everyone, I hope someone can help me before the freezer thaws :o
I did the latest update ( 2096_3-27-2016_v5.02 ) to the classic and MNGP.
Results : stuck in resting
ReasonForResting = 36   Battery temperature is Greater than reg address 4161 specified

How do I fix that little issue?

Walt

Battery temp is 23.8c , 75f so i disconnected the temp censer and now charging but have OCP is off.
I guess that would be expected.
Did the firm ware update again to both CC and MNGP , this appeared to clear the problem, reinstalled the temp censer and will see what happens. What should be the Rev #### for the MNGP?
12-Lifeline AGM 8D's
10-Lifeline AGM GPL 31T
16- Diehard GC2
4-Classic 3-150 and 1-200
1-Classic Lite
2-BRATS
5wiz bang Jrs, , 2- Samlex-24Volt
5- 235 MX60s
10- Sharp 198
10 Solar world 345 XL Mono

ClassicCrazy

I thought I had newest revisions on my Classics but they show 2079 so guess I will have to update one of these days too.
I don't remember if I went back to an old one because of some problem or not.
This is what I have right now if it helps any.

- Classic Rev: 2079 11/23/2015
- Network Rev: 2073
MNGP  2054 8/11/2015

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

BobWhite

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on August 27, 2016, 10:27:05 AM
I thought I had newest revisions on my Classics but they show 2079 so guess I will have to update one of these days too.
I don't remember if I went back to an old one because of some problem or not.
This is what I have right now if it helps any.

- Classic Rev: 2079 11/23/2015
- Network Rev: 2073
MNGP  2054 8/11/2015

Larry

Thank you Larry,
What I have right now
- Classic Rev: 2096  3/26/2016
- Network Rev: 2097
MNGP  2054 8/11/2015
the MNGP is most likely up to date, I was thinking it wasn't up to date. Everything does seem to be fine now, first time I have done any updates so being a nervous Nelly I guess.

Walt
12-Lifeline AGM 8D's
10-Lifeline AGM GPL 31T
16- Diehard GC2
4-Classic 3-150 and 1-200
1-Classic Lite
2-BRATS
5wiz bang Jrs, , 2- Samlex-24Volt
5- 235 MX60s
10- Sharp 198
10 Solar world 345 XL Mono

Resthome

Quote from: BobWhite on August 27, 2016, 08:43:12 AM

Did the firm ware update again to both CC and MNGP , this appeared to clear the problem, reinstalled the temp censer and will see what happens. What should be the Rev #### for the MNGP?

Classic Firmware : Classic 2096 3/26/16, Network 2097, MNGP 2054  8/11/15
John

10 x Kyocera KC140, Classic 150 w/WBJr, Link10 Battery Monitor, 850 AH @ 12v Solar One 2v cells, Xantrex PROwatt SW2000
Off Grid on Houseboat Lake Don Pedro, CA

BobWhite

Quote from: Resthome on August 28, 2016, 02:27:07 PM
Quote from: BobWhite on August 27, 2016, 08:43:12 AM

Did the firm ware update again to both CC and MNGP , this appeared to clear the problem, reinstalled the temp censer and will see what happens. What should be the Rev #### for the MNGP?

Classic Firmware : Classic 2096 3/26/16, Network 2097, MNGP 2054  8/11/15

Thank you John, that confirms that it is correct.


Walt
12-Lifeline AGM 8D's
10-Lifeline AGM GPL 31T
16- Diehard GC2
4-Classic 3-150 and 1-200
1-Classic Lite
2-BRATS
5wiz bang Jrs, , 2- Samlex-24Volt
5- 235 MX60s
10- Sharp 198
10 Solar world 345 XL Mono

ClassicCrazy

I think we are all waiting for the next MNGP update that will give access to the new AH settings .

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

russ_drinkwater

Disconnect the battery temp sensor Walt!
Standalone. 20 Hyundai x 220 watts panels, 2 x classic 150's, Latronics 24 volt 3kw inverter, Whiz bang Jnr, 12 Rolls surrete  4KS 25P  batteries and WBJ.
Grid tie feed-in, 12.5 kw in 3 arrays generating 50 kws per day average. Solar river grid tie inverters

BobWhite

Quote from: russ_drinkwater on August 29, 2016, 04:37:38 PM
Disconnect the battery temp sensor Walt!

Hi Russ, I'm not really sure I know what your saying ??? but I think your thinking I made that the fix but I just disconnected the sender to see if that would get it up charging again and it did (a bandaid for the moment0 I did get everything up and going so happy i didn't need to start swapping out controllers just to keep the beef from getting soft :'(  I'm glad i never have a dull moment ;D

Walt
12-Lifeline AGM 8D's
10-Lifeline AGM GPL 31T
16- Diehard GC2
4-Classic 3-150 and 1-200
1-Classic Lite
2-BRATS
5wiz bang Jrs, , 2- Samlex-24Volt
5- 235 MX60s
10- Sharp 198
10 Solar world 345 XL Mono

BobWhite

#8
Ok I've updated all my classics and the lite is flashing all lED"s this afternoon.I don't have anything important running off it so its ok for now. I did record it at 2 min video but can't upload it as its to large of a file. Any ways all lights flash at 30 second intervals, any thoughts on the reason? It (is) still producing and in a float tonight according to the local app and graham"s APP, so whats up with it?
Walt
12-Lifeline AGM 8D's
10-Lifeline AGM GPL 31T
16- Diehard GC2
4-Classic 3-150 and 1-200
1-Classic Lite
2-BRATS
5wiz bang Jrs, , 2- Samlex-24Volt
5- 235 MX60s
10- Sharp 198
10 Solar world 345 XL Mono

ClassicCrazy

Do you have it on Mymidnite ? If so maybe you could take a screenshot of graph so we can see what it is doing .
Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

Resthome

Quote from: BobWhite on August 29, 2016, 07:51:35 PM
Ok I've updated all my classics and the lite is flashing all lED"s this afternoon.I don't have anything important running off it so its ok for now. I did record it at 2 min video but can't upload it as its to large of a file. Any ways all lights flash at 30 second intervals, any thoughts on the reason? It (is) still producing and in a float tonight according to the local app and graham"s APP, so whats up with it?
Walt

Send a PM to Halfcrazy.  I believe he has posted here about a problem with the Lites doing this with the newer firmware. He will fix you up.
John

10 x Kyocera KC140, Classic 150 w/WBJr, Link10 Battery Monitor, 850 AH @ 12v Solar One 2v cells, Xantrex PROwatt SW2000
Off Grid on Houseboat Lake Don Pedro, CA

Halfcrazy

Quote from: BobWhite on August 29, 2016, 07:51:35 PM
Ok I've updated all my classics and the lite is flashing all lED"s this afternoon.I don't have anything important running off it so its ok for now. I did record it at 2 min video but can't upload it as its to large of a file. Any ways all lights flash at 30 second intervals, any thoughts on the reason? It (is) still producing and in a float tonight according to the local app and graham"s APP, so whats up with it?
Walt

This is a well known bug with older LITES. The MNLP display gets hung up. The Classic is still running though. Send me an Email ryan@midnitesolar.com with your address and i will get you a new MNLP
Changing the way wind turbines operate one smoke filled box at a time

BobWhite

Quote from: ClassicCrazy on August 29, 2016, 08:13:52 PM
Do you have it on Mymidnite ? If so maybe you could take a screenshot of graph so we can see what it is doing .
Larry

Thank you Larry, I'm not set up for mymidnite but that may be in the future!

Quote from: Resthome on August 30, 2016, 01:48:32 AM
Quote from: BobWhite on August 29, 2016, 07:51:35 PM
Ok I've updated all my classics and the lite is flashing all lED"s this afternoon.I don't have anything important running off it so its ok for now. I did record it at 2 min video but can't upload it as its to large of a file. Any ways all lights flash at 30 second intervals, any thoughts on the reason? It (is) still producing and in a float tonight according to the local app and graham"s APP, so whats up with it?
Walt

Send a PM to Halfcrazy.  I believe he has posted here about a problem with the Lites doing this with the newer firmware. He will fix you up.

Thank you John, Yes I do believe your right about a problem with the MNLP so i did get together with Ryan and feel we have worked out a solution with the lite. Ive attached a MNGP to the lite and it appears to be working fine now so ill see how it behaves!
walt
12-Lifeline AGM 8D's
10-Lifeline AGM GPL 31T
16- Diehard GC2
4-Classic 3-150 and 1-200
1-Classic Lite
2-BRATS
5wiz bang Jrs, , 2- Samlex-24Volt
5- 235 MX60s
10- Sharp 198
10 Solar world 345 XL Mono

russ_drinkwater

Hello Walt,
I said to disconnect the temp sensor as an idea to get your reg functioning and some charge into your cells mate.
Not as a long term solution :D
As I said before I have never attempted software upgrades as the number of problems people seem to have scares me! :o ;D
Standalone. 20 Hyundai x 220 watts panels, 2 x classic 150's, Latronics 24 volt 3kw inverter, Whiz bang Jnr, 12 Rolls surrete  4KS 25P  batteries and WBJ.
Grid tie feed-in, 12.5 kw in 3 arrays generating 50 kws per day average. Solar river grid tie inverters

BobWhite

Quote from: russ_drinkwater on August 31, 2016, 04:59:19 PM
Hello Walt,
I said to disconnect the temp sensor as an idea to get your reg functioning and some charge into your cells mate.
Not as a long term solution :D
As I said before I have never attempted software upgrades as the number of problems people seem to have scares me! :o ;D

I'm with you! that's why I've never done upgrade to firmware as it scares me, but now I'm  ok with it because i'm sure it will work out in the end. Plus, I have back up if i only mess with one at a time becouse I cant go down or bad things happen  :o  :'(
Walt
12-Lifeline AGM 8D's
10-Lifeline AGM GPL 31T
16- Diehard GC2
4-Classic 3-150 and 1-200
1-Classic Lite
2-BRATS
5wiz bang Jrs, , 2- Samlex-24Volt
5- 235 MX60s
10- Sharp 198
10 Solar world 345 XL Mono