Higher Power Classic

[keyturbocars]

Is there any possibility of a higher power Classic in the future? 

How difficult would it to be to increase the power handling capacity of the current Classic design?

My HY-2000 wind turbine system is right on the outer limits of what a Classic with the current specs can handle.  Would be nice to be able to run with 1 single unit.

[niel]

hmm,

Is there any possibility of a higher power Classic in the future?  

i'm sure there eventually will be as that's called progress.

How difficult would it to be to increase the power handling capacity of the current Classic design?

pretty easy. just buy 2.

My HY-2000 wind turbine system is right on the outer limits of what a Classic with the current specs can handle.  Would be nice to be able to run with 1 single unit.

don't take this harshly, but gee, they just are starting into production of the most advanced feature packed controller to hit the solar market to date and you're heehawing it isn't good enough yet. i dunno, as you can just go to what was available before or just wait for one to handle even more current out of 1 box or be grateful to see this come to fruition and buy what you need to make it work. even if they could modify the design to handle more current as a special controller built for you, i seriously doubt you could afford it. it certainly would cost more than 2 classics would for all of the special engineering needed for it.

[keyturbocars]

Thanks for your insights Niel.  No "heehawing" going on here.  I am just detailed oriented, and I like to think through all my options throughly before making a decision.  I always try to do my "homework" ahead of time.  I don't like to make a decision with the assumption that I can just "make it work" (been there done that), only to find out later that I made some bad assumptions.  The old saying... "Measure twice, and cut once."  Well, I'm the kinda guy that measures 5x and cuts once.  We are all different.  I realize that (lots of questions) might be perceived as being a PIA, but that's not my intent. 

[boB]

You will be seeing how fairly easily you can parallel Classics, especially for wind and also especially for wind turbines with AC output rather than DC outputs where the rectifiers are on the ground rather than up in the turbine itself.

It looks like my initial thoughts were correct, especially for that scenario, as Half-Crazy will probably mention here soon.

Ask and you shall receive !   But yes, we are really scrambling on our second week of production of the Classic.
I should probably say, our second half week as we probably didn't do a complete week of shipping last week.

It will only get better (I certainly hope !!)

Off to dream land.

boB

[keyturbocars]

Sounds great boB.  Thanks for fielding the questions.  I figure others out there might also have the same questions, so that's why I ask them on the forum.  I sometimes go overboard with the questions.  I blame engineering school for that... it has irreversibly warped my mind and caused me to analyze (overanalyze) things in detail before making decisions!  What's more, I am of the mechanical persuasion, so whenever I deal with electrical stuff, the mysteries of what goes on in those "black boxes" brings up even more questions in my mind!  

Hope all goes well as you roll into your 2nd week of production of the Classic.  You guys have put a lot of hard work into this product.  I hope you can now enjoy some of the fruits of your labors!

Edward

[Robin]

Edward, We just do not know the answers to your questions yet. In the future, the set up routines on the Classic and Clipper will tell you which Classic you need, how many you need and what Clipper if any you will need. This will all take time. We just received our first real power graph to bring into the Classic for the new Bergey XL1-48V turbine. This new turbine is available only with the Classic controller. Tod at Bergey designed the output to not exceed 250VDC. This means you do not need the Clipper. Ian Woofenden has a 24 volt battery system at his house. He has one of these new Bergeys. The regular XL.1 was a 1000 watt turbine. Ian has seen 2400 watts out of his 48V version with the Classic. We saw 99 amps coming out of the 55 amp Classic. We also saw as much as 320 volts on the input. We were happy that it did not break. Tod has since redesigned the stator windings to keep the voltage lower.
This is the kind of work we plan on doing with all of the turbine manufacturers. We are seeing great gains in power from Kestrel turbines too as well as the Hugh Piggot designs. 25%...... guess again. It will be higher than that, but without more data it is hard to tell what is the correct turbine. I believe we have an installer on our beta list that has your same turbine. Maybe we will get the info we need from that installation. If a beta test installer made an error in which Classic to use, we would swap it out for another version. It is in our best interest to get the information back to us as soon as possible.
Hang in there, We are working on these issues.

[keyturbocars]

Sounds good Robin.  I am glad that you guys are also focusing on the wind side of RE.  There's a lot out there for solar, but not so much for wind.  The Classic is a big step ahead for wind power.  I do hope one of your beta testers also has a HY-2000 wind turbine.  That would be great!  Keep up the good work!

I've been seeing more people with the HY wind turbines.  Here's someone else that installed 3 of the HY-3000 turbines, which has the same generating head as my HY-2000.  



The guy who installed those three HY-3000 turbines did a nice job.



The difference between the HY-2000 (3 blades) and HY-3000 (5 blades) is the number of blades, so the HY-3000 makes more power at lower wind speeds.  In any case, I think more people are realizing that the HY Energy wind turbines are also good quality and a good value.  That controller that comes with them is less than ideal, but that's where the Classic can step in to fill the gap.

Edward

[niel]

hi robin,
i know bergey was, as was said on their website, coming out with a 48v model for many years. i guess the controller circuitry was what was holding them back. kudos to you guys in not only furthering the solar industry, but wind as well. i'll bet those at bergey are tickled pink seeing what their turbines do with your controllers on them.
long time in coming, good job guys.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

[boB]

hi robin,
i know bergey was, as was said on their website, coming out with a 48v model for many years. i guess the controller circuitry was what was holding them back. kudos to you guys in not only furthering the solar industry, but wind as well. i'll bet those at bergey are tickled pink seeing what their turbines do with your controllers on them.
long time in coming, good job guys.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Happy Christmas and Merry new year to all of you !!

boB