Watts reading low

Started by Fauxlimey, August 26, 2020, 12:39:44 PM

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Fauxlimey

Hi,
I'm a newbie, and I finally got around to installing my Classic 150SL (I've had it for 3 years, but was getting by with a smaller CC and one 315W panel). It seems to be working beautifully. I have a 360 Ah AGM battery bank at 12V. I'm in an off-grid cabin in upstate New York, and my panels are on an east facing roof (I know... not so clever, but it suits me for the moment). Now I have four 315W panels (2x2), which put out a max of 90V. I don't use much power, probably 100W max for short periods of time. I hit float by 11 in the morning on a sunny day, and I can use lots of power without affecting the SOC when the sun is shining.

My question: Why is the watts reading on the Classic so low? It's typically under 100W, often in the teens, although I have seen it top 700W in bulk charge mode in direct sunlight. Surely the reading should be higher??

mike90045

my 5kw of pv, slowly ramps up from dawn, till about 10am, when the sun is full on, and then I'm only pushing 3kw. And if the batteries are full, they pull much less from the solar
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Classic 200| 2Kw PV, 160Voc | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph )| Listeroid 6/1, st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | midnight ePanel & 4 SPDs | 48V, 800A NiFe battery bank | MS-TS-MPPT60 w/3Kw PV

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Quote from: Fauxlimey on August 26, 2020, 12:39:44 PM
Hi,
I'm a newbie, and I finally got around to installing my Classic 150SL (I've had it for 3 years, but was getting by with a smaller CC and one 315W panel). It seems to be working beautifully. I have a 360 Ah AGM battery bank at 12V. I'm in an off-grid cabin in upstate New York, and my panels are on an east facing roof (I know... not so clever, but it suits me for the moment). Now I have four 315W panels (2x2), which put out a max of 90V. I don't use much power, probably 100W max for short periods of time. I hit float by 11 in the morning on a sunny day, and I can use lots of power without affecting the SOC when the sun is shining.

My question: Why is the watts reading on the Classic so low? It's typically under 100W, often in the teens, although I have seen it top 700W in bulk charge mode in direct sunlight. Surely the reading should be higher??

In Bulk the controller will charge with all available PV power.  When it gets to Absorb it will  hold the absorb setpoint voltage by lowering the current as the batteries charge . Like Mike said batteries will take less current as they charge. If the controller wasn't there and let all available power in then the voltage would keep rising , the batteries bubbling and potentially getting hot and ruined.  If you have a Whizbang installed and want to see the true potential power when the Classic is in absorb, then turn on a bunch of loads until you see the system amps start to go negative - then you can see what the PV is capable of putting out at that particular time.

Larry
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Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

Fauxlimey

Thanks for the replies. That makes total sense. I bought my PVs on Craigslist, hence my worry lol. Larry, thanks for the suggestion. I do have a Whizbang Jr. so I'll give that a shot, next time the sun shines. Today is terribly dull and rainy (still getting 65V, though). I'm loving the Classic so far  :) 

boB

Watch for the display saying Absorb or Float which means the watts is throttling in order to regulate voltage.  That would be normal.

When in MPPT and the sun is shining good on your panels, (no clouds), then you can expect higher power output.


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