SPD question for 120VAC

Started by wb7qni, September 13, 2021, 09:39:06 AM

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wb7qni

Tried replying to a 2014 topic without results so am starting a new topic.

I'm a part-time solar installer. On my own home, am running single-phase 120VAC on Outback inverter off-grid system (20 years old) and just tried to put a Midnite SPD on the AC side. Neutral and ground are bonded within this panel and I ran GREEN wire to ground, then both BLACK and RED wires to AC L1. No LEDs lighting up. In 2014 on a similar query, Ryan wrote that this should work. If so, is it normal to have no LEDs light up?

Any suggestions most welcome.

James in Maine




Here's what I read from Ryan on this topic:

Quote from: Halfcrazy on January 03, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
Here is how I would do it. Presumably one of these panels has the AC neutral and ground bonded. In that panel I would put the red and black on the AC hot lead and the green to ground. In the panel without the bond as the neutral floats sort of I would wire it Red to AC hot, Black (with included white heat shrink) on the AC Neutral and green to ground

Ryan

ClassicCrazy

from midnite knowledge base
http://www.midniteftp.com/support/kb/faq.php?id=96

SPD - How do I test the SPD?
Last Updated 3 years ago

We need to verify the SPD is compromised and not something else in the System.

PROCEDURE ONE
TESTING procedure for the SPD300-DC and SPD600 and SPD115
Using a simple (good) 9 volt battery.
Connect the RED WIRE to the battery POS and the BLACK WIRE to the battery NEG.
Both LEDs should light.

PROCEDURE TWO
TESTING the SPD300-AC, SPD300-AC/DC and some older version SPD115.
Connect the RED WIRE to the battery POS and the GREEN WIRE to the battery NEG.
A single BLUE LED should light.

Connect the BLACK WIRE to battery NEG and the GREEN WIRE to battery POS.
The other BLUE LED should light.
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

wb7qni

Aha! Thanks ClassicCrazy. Took it out, tested with 9V battery. No LEDs light up. Must be a bad one.

Once I get a replacement, is my hook up still GREEN to GROUND, and BLACK and RED to AC L1?


James

ClassicCrazy

yeah I would go with what Ryan said.
You might check with Midnite to see if they rebuild those spd's.
I thought maybe I saw that mentioned in past .

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera   Classic 150 ,8s2p  Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 20kwh  ,Gobel 16 kwh  lifepo4 Outback VFX 3648  8s2p 380w Rec pv EG4 6000XP

wb7qni

Thanks Larry. Just opened a support ticket with MN. Your advice was invaluable.

James

FNG

Sounds like you have an SPD-300-DC

An SPD-300-AC sources its voltage to light the LEDs from red to green and from black to green
An SPD-300-DC and the 115 and 600 source the voltage to light the LEDs from red to black

Look at the label and give us a shout back here we can help you test it